India China LAC & International Border Discussions

[Knowitall]

Kuch bhi.

1) where are the 30000 troops sitting in pp14.

2)we never had a road till there after the kargil war china built a road till that point as I was explained here we had patrolling rights but we lost the claims the day they built the road there.

3) why govt is not coming out it's the media which is running around calling de-escalation like idiots army has said themselves that a few things have moved back they are viewing everything with extreme caution.

So only after the withdrawal is complete will the govt make a statement.

Why would they make a premature statement and shoot themselves in the foot.

This is all media larping the govt is cautious and waiting for things to be done.

 

[Sarjen]

Distance from the Chinese post inside Galwan to DSDBO Raod (not Leh -DBO Raod) is about 6 - 7 km. But that is immaterial becuse the raod is within the range of almost entire Chinese artillery deployed in Sub Sector North and Galwan Sector including Pengang Tso.

What matters is observed fire. If PP 14 is with the Chinese they can observe all movements on near Post 120 on Road DSDBO. However observed Fire can be brought on this raod from hundreds of other heights and Nallahs along the LAC.
except during winters.
What then matters is that Galwan valley is the easiest and nearest way to capture this road and physical occupy the it. Galwan has a raod axix and this means it is an easy axis to attack the road. Thirdly this PP14 location can be developed into all weather post and thus will be the only observation point in this entire area during winters.

The question of DSDBO raod is also a bit overstated, Area Murgo and area DBO North of it is also connected by another Summer raod passing through Nubra valley west of Karakorum ranges. Hence building up forces to DBO without of Chinese observation is assured via that route. Logistics stocking etc can be carried out from there also. What is significant about DSDBO raod is that it the only link during winters. it is wide raod and capable of taking heavy movement. Besides it is directly linked to Rupasi Manali Raod without going towards Leh.

DSDBO road runs parallel to LAC and thus vital for LAC managements. All feeder roads leading to LAC in Galwan and Northern sector will emanate from it.

Next step probably would be to construct 4-6 km tunnel in front of Galwan River - Shyok confluence. But the importance of Galwan valley Road can not be neutralized because that the central road from which all Chinese feeder roads emanate towards LAC... such as Gogra. Hot spring. Kongka and Pengang Tso.

Well i see lot of lacking from our side... this is so important then why didn't the Army captured the heights and established Indian posts long ago ??? IA knew the Chinese are coming in every year, should have read their mindsets long ago... I see a Failure in Military Intelligence

 

[defc0n]

 

[Kalki2020]

They have realized that man-force troll is useless. Either they will have increase numbers or use heavy weapons.

They can't even overwhelm us in numbers(soldiers) now....
Weapon wise may be but not in all categories, only few as per my knowledge ...

 

[Sarjen]

Looks like they're readying to take Taiwan by force.. maybe during the US election time.

 

[A chauhan]

They can't even overwhelm us in numbers(soldiers) now....
Weapon wise may be but not in all categories, only few as per my knowledge ...

Yeah, surprise was their advantage back in 1962, now with advanced radar satellites there isn't much they can do.

 

[AmitG]

wrong China had built a road till pp14 not us. 1.5 km claim of ajai shukla has already been debunked.

Nope, even when this affair started there were reports that India had built a road till PP14 and according to some that was one of the triggers . Of ours it was not black topped.

 

[Kalki2020]

Looks like they're readying to take Taiwan by force.. maybe during the US election time.

Haha.... What he has made out of himself now... Mighty emperor of CCP to begger... How come a nation with size of China & its all geopolitical- economical - military might is now sending proposal of merger to island country in sober tone...
Btw whose sh!t Jin-Pig gulps to convince others that Hongkong model is alive within Chinese fold.

Any misadventures by CCP over Taiwan might seal their fate like USSR .....

 

[ezsasa]

Nope, even when this affair started there were reports that India had built a road till PP14 and according to some that was one of the triggers . Of ours it was not black topped.

show us one proper source.
this is the first time I am hearing of this.

 

[Arihant]

Here everyone knows, This going back from positions is temporary. Both armies will come again face to face after rainy season. These media people running for TRPs right now showing that because of Army, Doval and team Chonmeeni gone back, will show after some time that they come again and team is failed. This skirmish has changed everything, nothing is going normal again. Preparations are started for long face off, many skirmishes and final war. Who is changing their mind on hourly commentary, should understand all situation after checking maps, CCP moves, India's territory which is in chinese occupation and one they claim, Our territory which we petrol and we control, and where we are right now in capabilities etc. When examining all these points and watch these news channels, you will feel that comedy show is being broadcasted. It will change your perspective.

 

[WARREN SS]

Yeah, surprise was their advantage back in 1962, now with advanced radar satellites there isn't much they can do.

Where We have advantage is having more 3 Corps Deployed in Command in J&K Along With RR which are Alone a Corps Level units ITBP +Other CAPF that Is 4,00,000 Soldiers

What Is the Need is Rapid modernization Of Infantry And arming With Fully Modern Automatic assault Rifles
And Modern BPJ And High-cut BPH Also upgrade Modern Radio Link & comm's And NVG

 

[Kalki2020]

How so?

Heightened situation will give enough impetus to push anti china stuff on all fronts, any truce with them will water down the momentum.
Secondly ball is in our court how we wish to respond their aggression, we will have freedom of choosing our options & military actions will remain on table until china budges.
Infact India should boycott high level meeting like happened on 5th July to send right signals...

 

[HindaviSwarajya]

Dont know how reliable but still sharing

More Than 100 Chinese Soldiers Killed In Galwan Valley : Chinese Military Official Accepted

More than 100 Chinese Soldiers Killed in Galwan Valley : Chinese Military Official Accepted - Kreately

Jianli Yang, a former Chinese military official and son of a leader in the Chinese communist party, accepted that ‘More than 100 Chinese soldiers...

kreately.in

 

[Waanar]

Once we take POK back? Do serious DFI posters actually take Baba BhandHalat seriously?

I think it's a pretty solid theory that this government is looking in that direction, taking into consideration it's unpredictability as well as constant hinting by the high ranking politicians. It's a game of blame shifting and international standing, not military tactics (Pakis gonna get steamrolled, bruh).

It's not just Baba.

 

[Kalki2020]

One hint from Ravishankar Prasad over 5G is enough to keep CCP run business on tenterhooks. Need more ... 59 is not enough...

 

[Sarjen]

Sun tzu strategy forced china to build a camp near a riverbed which would be washed away after a few weeks.

Ye strategy nahi tragedy hai.

The Irony was Chinese Betrayed Sun Tzu and the guy had to disappear for good

 

[Kalki2020]

I agree but that's part of one china stand. We don't recognise Taiwan, & don't raise Taiwan HK Xinjiang issues. In 2003 India recognised Tibet as part of China so there you go. That's why we don't talk much about Dalai lama.

If you ask me honestly, any written agreement won't matter if our interest are harmed by China.
Real problem is, we have not been able to send right signals to China, any breach of trust from their side will nullify all agreements between two countries, including signed by Nehru...
Indian diplomacy is ridden with infusing subtleties in messaging & good for sharpening English skills.
Need a change big time in messaging...

 

[defc0n]

 

[A chauhan]

The Irony was Chinese Betrayed Sun Tzu and the guy had to disappear for good

I think Chinese capabilities and strategy is hyped mostly by Indians. Chinese leaders would never have succeeded in India if they were here. You need well-thinking and 'educated' people to create a good system and fools to create a communist state.

 

[Sarjen]

Or a well plan by Oli himself against the upcoming Coup