India China LAC & International Border Discussions

[Hiranyaksha]

Lads if shit hits south. 55 days at peking might repeat itself !

 

[garg_bharat]

THEN IN 1962

An Indian newspaper clipping from 15th July 1962
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15 July 1962: Chinese troops withdraw from menacing position (Galwan post)

Newspaper clipping from October 1962
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October 1962: China attacks on both fronts




NOW!!!!

July 2020: China withdraws troops, removes structures from friction points in Ladakh's Galwan Valley, say reports

China withdraws troops, removes structures from friction points in Ladakh's Galwan Valley, say reports

It was along the Line of Actual Control in Ladakh that violent clashes between India and China’s armies on 15 June led to the deaths of 20 Indian soldiers.

www.firstpost.com

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October to November 2020: Joe Biden wins elections. Calls off US Naval fleets from Asia-Pacific. Imposes sanction on India due to Kashmir issue

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October 2020: China attacks on both fronts

HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF

What an idea sirji

No. USA needs friends at this time. How many friends can USA count on in Asia?
Biden will not go against India. You need to respect the power of Indians in USA. Indians do carry weight in Washington DC now.

 

[Bhadra]

I wonder if China has got a word from India that we will not speak or.suppory ongoing Chinese American faceoff in south china sea in return of deescalation.
China main aim was prevent India to go to USA camp.
I see India has not responded to USA's numerous tweets supporting India.
Or i may be wrong.

This is one way street to think only Chinese extract things from India and Indi can not... decisions are outcome of cumulative factors..

 

[Shaitan]

 

[Bhadra]

After all this one thing is for sure, that Galwan Valley is a gorgeous place... hope it is in our control someday in its entirety

When you would have captured Aksaichin in its entirity..

 

[LDev]

@Hellfire Also Ghatak commandos were the ones who goes berserk. It was one of the most lethal and barbaric fight in modern warfare .

I believe this why the IA will not forget or forgive the PLA. It has been described as brutal and barbaric fight in more than one account written about this even by retired Indian bureaucrats.

 

[garg_bharat]

There is speculation in Chinese media and elsewhere that Trump may start a conflict before Nov elections to shore up his chances of election. However no indication so far that Trump intends to start a conflict. The fact is rather Trump has been remarkably anti-war.

Biden seems to be an establishment guy.

But Trump, being a non-establishment President, is also a weak President in the eyes of USA's enemies. So I fear that more aggression from China will continue.

 

[Akula]

People like him make me think, no matter how brutal the punishments from ancient periods seem, they are totally justified against such people.

Brown sepoys

 

[Bhadra]

There is speculation in Chinese media and elsewhere that Trump may start a conflict before Nov elections to shore up his chances of election. However no indication so far that Trump intends to start a conflict. The fact is rather Trump has been remarkably anti-war.

Biden seems to be an establishment guy.

But Trump, being a non-establishment President, is also a weak President in the eyes of USA's enemies. So I fear that more aggression from China will continue.

Those are valid assumptions....
But how does it mater what happens in USA ? USA is not going to fight a war for Indians. Indians will have to fight their own wars.. Le us get into correct mental orientations and calibrate ourselves....

If anyone was so interested he should have attacked China by now..

 

[Bhadra]

Brown sepoys

Bloody Swine.... Professor of Peace and Conflict Research, Uppsala University, Sweden. ..... trying to rule India from Sweden....

 

[utubekhiladi]

There is speculation in Chinese media and elsewhere that Trump may start a conflict before Nov elections to shore up his chances of election. However no indication so far that Trump intends to start a conflict. The fact is rather Trump has been remarkably anti-war.

Biden seems to be an establishment guy.

But Trump, being a non-establishment President, is also a weak President in the eyes of USA's enemies. So I fear that more aggression from China will continue.

respectfully disagree, biden is bad news for both america and India. he is failed USA candidate. i was listening to local radio station in texas, there were reports that china is flooding lots of dollars to make sure Trump losses the next election.

all this china's atrocities and trade violations could have stopped way back during obama era. obama lacked a decent pair of cojones. so he turned blind eye and picked up the battle at health care sector under the umbrella of ObamaCare. while obama and americans were focusing on healthcare, china kept plundering american industries for 10 years and Obama didn't say a word. lot of forex went outside to china, lot of industries went outside to china, lot of imbalances were created. china enjoyed a warm and wet relation with usa during obama era.

while Trump, from the day-1, is campaigning against china directly and indirectly. he wants to make America Great Again by bringing all the industries and jobs from china. he bought his 70 years old cojones to standup to china. there are also rumors that most of senators and congress men are in Chinese payroll and they will not stand upto china like trump can. unlike other candidates, Trump owes nobody anything. he self sponsored his presidential campaign

there also rumors that china opportunistically sponsored and triggered black lives matter protest in entire america after George Floyd Death. there are rumors that china tried to bring in impeachment motion against trump using all the congress and senators who are on Chinese payroll which apparently failed.

Joe Biden is in chinese payroll. he have lot of his companies which are operating in china. Biden can be best compared to our motormouth digvijay singh

 

[Hari Sud]

How much is the distance between Chinese Galwan River post and the newly built indian road linking Leh to Daulat Beg Oldi? If the distance is within the artillery range then one can understand Chinese preference to stay in the Galwan river position. Chinese do not wish India acquiring a good or better roads and infrastructure in the area. That will weaken future Chinese salami slicing.

I am begging to think that they have lost a strategic advantage if they had retained the Galwan River post.

 

[Sehwag213]

Agree with Swamy here.

 

[garg_bharat]

Those are valid assumptions....
But how does it mater what happens in USA ? USA is not going to fight a war for Indians. Indians will have to fight their own wars.. Le us get into correct mental orientations and calibrate ourselves....

If anyone was so interested he should have attacked China by now..

No country lives in isolation today. Your grand assumption that nobody will help India is patently false.

India will get help when she asks for help. If India did not ask in the first place, then why blame others.

You have been blind to quick offer of USA to supply equipment as per need.

American soldiers fighting for India is not needed.

 

[utubekhiladi]

How much is the distance between Chinese Galwan River post and the newly built indian road linking Leh to Daulat Beg Oldi? If the distance is within the artillery range then one can understand Chinese preference to stay in the Galwan river position. Chinese do not wish India acquiring a good or better roads and infrastructure in the area. That will weaken future Chinese salami slicing.

I am begging to think that they have lost a strategic advantage if they had retained the Galwan River post.

the distance from pp14 to dbo road is only 6km approx. but from height of this peaks, Chinese can keep an bird eye view on our dbo road and they call in airstrike or artillery if they choose to block the highway

 

[Akula]

Don't put any rhetoric or abuse in the comment section. It will only make us look pathetic, weak and insecure.

This video is not available on YouTube India.

 

[utubekhiladi]

look at this kashmiri chutiyaa's article published on aljazzeera

What was the deadly India-China border clash really about?
India's decision to cancel Kashmir's special status is threatening to trigger a regional conflict.


https://www.aljazeera.com/profile/tariq-mir.html

What was the deadly India-China border clash really about?

India’s decision to cancel Kashmir’s special status is threatening to trigger a regional conflict.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[utubekhiladi]

INDIA TV is reporting that chinese have also begin to withdraw from finger 4 at pangong tso lake



what kind of treachery trickery is this?

 

[Sehwag213]

the distance from pp14 to dbo road is only 6km approx. but from height of this peaks, Chinese can keep an bird eye view on our dbo road and they call in airstrike or artillery if they choose to block the highway

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India is building another road if worst case scenario occurs. We should thank China for waking us at the right time.

 

[LDev]

INDIA TV is reporting that chinese have also begin to withdraw from finger 4 at pangong tso lake



what kind of treachery trickery is this?

The real question is how far back will they go? Prior to early May they did not have any bunkers or permanent positions west of Finger 8. Will they go back all the way to Finger 8 and restore the status quo? If not what has happened is that they have pulled back at the Galwan valley but have net net gained territory from Finger 8 to which ever Finger they decide to pull back to. But all reports are that the IA has zero trust in the Chinese. So that is good.