India China LAC & International Border Discussions

[HariPrasad-1]

Two US senators introduce legislations to strengthen India-US defence ties

Moving an amendment to the NDAA 2021, Senator Mark Warner and Senator John Cornyn asked for assessment from Defence Secretary Mark Esper whether the Israel-US Binational Industrial Research and Development Foundation and Fund provides a model for US-India private sector collaboration on defence...

economictimes.indiatimes.com

Two US senators introduce legislations to strengthen India-US defence ties

If you show character and resolve, people would like to be friend with you.

 

[The Indian Hawk]

France extends ‘steadfast & friendly’ military support to India amid LAC tensions with China

Expressing “steadfast and friendly support” of its armed forces, French Defence Minister Florence Parly has written to India’s Rajnath Singh condoling the death of 20 soldiers in Galwan Valley in clashes with China.

 

[Concard]

France has offered Millitary help to India in case of war with China https://m.economictimes.com/news/de...a0Vm6WuyY3AYX31v6aFehZIG9oSqQnZotWtavxaGUoFvA

The French are very much pissed off with the Chinese. They have lost more than 30,000 people due to China virus and their economy is in ruins. French economy is somewhat fragile given their socialist tendencies. It is not like booming economy like Germany. And if Fox news of USA report is anything to go by during the call between Macron and Xi, Xi told Macron France should choose Huwaei for 5G networks in return for China giving France PPEs, Test kits at the height of the pandemic in France. This is nothing but blackmail only rogue state would do.

French in my opinion aren't saying much against China but secretly they and Europe and most of the world is hating China. I mean just take a look at Worldometers, the virus is not slowing down anywhere. It is still accelerating slowly and steadily. I thought infections would stop at 1 million but now they are 10 times that number and still rising exponentially. Make no mistake even Putin would be hating Xi at this point. And he too will secretly arm India if he has to during the war claiming Russia is neutral. If Trump wins in Novermber shit is going to get real for China. Trump will accelerate the process of decoupling from China. There will be another 4 years of hell for China if Trump wins 2nd term.

 

[patriots]

Exactly. We can fire many Bansi like drones to exhaust S400's missiles.

But does banshi has 400 km range.....
Salvo fire of guided rockets will do the task...

 

[HariPrasad-1]

People forget we can also fire many decoys to throw of S400 .

This sort of conflicts are good for a nation. Your weakness comes out which gives you a chance to correct it. 27th February, the very next day to Balakot also taught us many lessons.This conflict will teach us so many things.

 

[utubekhiladi]

INDIA TV busts the claims and rumor mills of deescalation. watch live now

 

[ladder]

But does banshi has 400 km range.....
Salvo fire of guided rockets will do the task...

But which guided rocket has 400 km range? I don't think we any such in our inventory.

 

[patriots]

But which guided rocket has 400 km range? I don't think we any such in our inventory.

Bro we. Don't have that's the problem......
Bdw spj on jets will protect them from sams ....

 

[The Indian Hawk]

22 Medium Regiment, which took part in 1962 war, completes 100 years of its raising
The 22 Medium Regiment of the Army, which played a crucial role in the 1962 war with China, has completed a century of its raising.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

Pakistan news | China news: View: Pakistan is part of strategic move that China is making

Pakistan will synchronise its actions with that of China, on the border and within Jammu & Kashmir.

economictimes.indiatimes.com

Pakistan is part of strategic move that China is making

Pakistan had always been the stooge of its masters. This time, old master is bern replaced by new master.

 

[IndiaRising]

can they be trusted??

No

 

[patriots]

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[Concard]

Everyone here have forgotten one topic to discuss which is happening right now in China.

Right now in China there is massive flooding in many provinces. There is still no sign of when the flooding is going to stop. In addition to that China virus has hit Beijing the power center of CCP turds. There was a strong belief Chinese virus was not totally eliminated in China before it hit Beijing. CCP turds never counted asymptotic people with virus as another Corona case. They largely vomited them from the statistics. The virus might as well would have spread to entire China and is lurking somewhere. Combine this with massive flooding they have a huge domestic crisis at hand.

And lo behold if that 3 gorges dam ever breaks. That would be one heck of a treat to watch. They will definitely need more military personal to quell any rebellion not only from the public but also from CCP ranks. No matter how much they censor the failure of 3 gorges dam would get out at some point. I really hope that dam breaks or if war ever happens I hope we have our Agni missile ready to strike that dam. That dam failure alone will cause massive damage.

 

[ladder]

Yesterday The CAOS had made a simple statement about the situation on LAC. He did not say anything alarming but only said the situation is under control.
Why is Sudhir Ranjan Chaudhary questioning that statement and asking explanations from The COAS..

The DNA dies hard, It is the same party who got jittery on a single jovial statement made Sam Manekshaw after 71 War. After retirement Congress and here I dare say bureaucrats even stopped his pension...

After retirement Congress and here I dare say bureaucrats even stopped his pension...

Denied by his own daughter

Gaurav Arya’s Claims About Army, Sam Manekshaw’s Pensions Are Fake

Gaurav Arya’s Claims About Army Fact Check: Major Gaurav Arya said that after the 1971 war, Sam Manekshaw’s pension was stopped and that he was only given his complete pension on his deathbed. Secondly,Arya also claimed that the pensions of the Armed

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But, what can we say about a member who proudly lies behind his professional badge.

We shouldn't take cover of lies to propagate one's views.

But, in this forum even lying is kosher if it comes from certain posters.

 

[samsaptaka]

What Are the Options Now​

Post #4098 .....
I had told you so..
So what are the options available with India having reached almost a stalemate.
Stalemate is bad for India without getting back encroached territory or imposing a heavy cost on China in visible military spectrum - that is causing heavy attrition.
That can only be successfully achieved by making the Chinese attack Indian Defenses rather than Indians attacking Chinese strongholds.

The Options therefore are -

Option One- Occupy Chinese territory somewhere else in sizable mass to force Chinese to attack Indian positions in Ladakh or build up at that new encroachment to attack. A place like Longhju , Dhola / Lungrola Ridge. Asaphila. or Lipulekh - Taklakot or even Dolam can be carefully chosen. This would extend the war to the entire LAC. But that is the only way to maneuver into advantage to force Chinese to thin out from Ladakh or buckle in.

Option Two Build in large forces in Ladakh taking advantage of the situation. Hold the Chinese on LAC but launch the main operations in Skardu - Gilgit to cut off / threaten CPEC. China will be forced to attack Indian defenses on LAC and help realize Indian objectives. This option requires international consensus building specially USA and West. It is likely to garner much support from all who wish to cut Chinese to the size. However, this a classical two front war and the scope will be very large from which India and China can have no escape clauses. This may engulf entire Pakistan border. However, Indian forces stand an advantage of utilization of its comprehensive military power including her Navy from a position of advantage.

India must force the Chinese into offensive rather than fight from the advantages of the present defensive stalemate.

Time Frame - Only 30 days intense, swift and conclusive war after 20 October. After 20 November let the weather take hold of the situation. Till then build all resources and collect forces

Option one seems to be the best

there no confirmed news about de-escalation. only rumor mills are doing rounds. Chinese are not willing to budge from finger 4 and we are not willing to surrender any land.



yes, none agreed for deescalation or come to an understanding on how to deescalate.

the below report published 2 hours ago

India-China Border Talks Inconclusive Again, More Meets Needed: Sources

The third round of meeting to resolve the border issue between India and China remained inconclusive, government sources indicated, and there will be some more rounds to go. The third senior military-level meeting took place on June 30 at Chusul on the Indian side or the Line of Actual Control -- the de facto border between India and China.

"More meetings are expected both at the military and at the diplomatic level, in future, to arrive at mutually agreeable solution and to ensure peace and tranquility along the LAC as per bilateral agreements and protocols," government sources said.

''Both sides have emphasised the need for an expeditious, phased and step wise de-escalation as a priority,'' the sources, however, said.

The remarks today are in clear contrast with the statement on the earlier talks of June 22, which were described as being held "in a cordial, positive and constructive atmosphere". "There was a mutual consensus to disengage. Modalities for disengagement from all friction areas in Eastern Ladakh were discussed and will be taken forward by both the sides,'' the statement had read.
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India-China Border Talks Inconclusive Again, More Meets Needed: Sources

The third round of meeting to resolve the border issue between India and China remained inconclusive, sources indicated, and there will be some more rounds to go. The third senior military-level meeting took place on June 30 at Chusul on the Indian side or the Line of Actual Control -- the de...

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Why the fk are we still talking to these terrorists ! Time for the guns to do the talking. Chinks are a uber terrorist nation -

China Turns To Terrorism, Holds Talks With Al-Badr, ISI To Incite Terror Activities In J&K: Report

Amid the ongoing confrontation with India along the Line of Actual Control (LAC), the Chinese appear to be turning towards nefarious strategies like using terrorism to target India

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This brown sahib, suauve IAS english gentleman mindset of talks, negotiating etc..with all and sundry is ridiculous ! Its like after getting beaten up by a bully, you summon the courage and beat him badly and have the upper hand (bihar regt lads) and instead of forever banishing him you agree to his 'offer' of talks and he stabs you during the meeting and you cry "betrayal" ! Tchah ! When will we lose this soft mindedness...

 

[ezsasa]

Everyone here have forgotten one topic to discuss which is happening right now in China.

Right now in China there is massive flooding in many provinces. There is still no sign of when the flooding is going to stop. In addition to that China virus has hit Beijing the power center of CCP turds. There was a strong belief Chinese virus was not totally eliminated in China before it hit Beijing. CCP turds never counted asymptotic people with virus as another Corona case. They largely vomited them from the statistics. The virus might as well would have spread to entire China and is lurking somewhere. Combine this with massive flooding they have a huge domestic crisis at hand.

And lo behold if that 3 gorges dam ever breaks. That would be one heck of a treat to watch. They will definitely need more military personal to quell any rebellion not only from the public but also from CCP ranks. No matter how much they censor the failure of 3 gorges dam would get out at some point. I really hope that dam breaks or if war ever happens I hope we have our Agni missile ready to strike that dam. That dam failure alone will cause massive damage.

wishful thinking, CCP is fully capable of handling their internal dynamics.
as far three gorges dam narrative is concerned, it won't matter what outsiders talk about it. it would be scrubbed from chinese internet.

 

[Knowitall]

'Thank you for the provocation': Anand Mahindra says challenge accepted to Chinese editor for mocking Indian goods

Global Times Editor-in-Chief Hu Xijin, who has grabbed all the headlines after the violent face-off with China's PLA troops in the Galwan Valley of eastern Ladakh on June 15, once again tried to troll India. He had said "Indian friends, you need to have some things that are more important than nationalism."

Well, this did not go well with the Netizens who immediately took to Twitter to troll the Chinese editor.

And now, Indian businessman and Chairman of Mahindra Group Anand Mahindra gave a subtle reply to the Global Times editor who mocked Indian goods. Mahindra's reply is quite self-explanatory.

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Nice to see people with such attitude instead of getting angry and shouting he has stood up to the occasion and wants to change things.

It will be nice if more people start to think the same way.

 

[BeEverVectorMan]

This sort of conflicts are good for a nation. Your weakness comes out which gives you a chance to correct it. 27th February, the very next day to Balakot also taught us many lessons.This conflict will teach us so many things.

Can you provide me the link if possible which gives us info regarding what we learnt a lesson or a thread where it's pointed out

Thanks in advance as I have joined few weeks only

 

[utubekhiladi]

Nice to see people with such attitude instead of getting angry and shouting he has stood up to the occasion and wants to change things.

It will be nice if more people start to think the same way.

one the other end, we have assholes like Rajiv Bajaj, CEO of BAJAJ auto who can't enough of Chinese auto parts.

 

[Blue Water Navy]

Everyone here have forgotten one topic to discuss which is happening right now in China.

Right now in China there is massive flooding in many provinces. There is still no sign of when the flooding is going to stop. In addition to that China virus has hit Beijing the power center of CCP turds. There was a strong belief Chinese virus was not totally eliminated in China before it hit Beijing. CCP turds never counted asymptotic people with virus as another Corona case. They largely vomited them from the statistics. The virus might as well would have spread to entire China and is lurking somewhere. Combine this with massive flooding they have a huge domestic crisis at hand.

And lo behold if that 3 gorges dam ever breaks. That would be one heck of a treat to watch. They will definitely need more military personal to quell any rebellion not only from the public but also from CCP ranks. No matter how much they censor the failure of 3 gorges dam would get out at some point. I really hope that dam breaks or if war ever happens I hope we have our Agni missile ready to strike that dam. That dam failure alone will cause massive damage.

I don't want it to break. Because innocent people will lost their lives. But though if it happen!!

You are forgetting one thing, PLA is designed to suppress any kind of revolution at all. Yes, they might not be an actual fighting force but still they will do these things very efficiently.

@ezsasa is correct. It doesn't matter what we speak. Because common Chinese people won't see a bit of it. And any information regarding the dam-break will be removed, like it never even existed.