India China LAC & International Border Discussions

[ARVION]

Su-57 Is Still Unreliable
Most Of the Tech
Like K-77m
K-74 is still prototype

EW Capabilities Questionable

EW Capabilies questionable please clarify

 

[Assassin 2.0]

We Do Same With Bangladesh ,Srilanka ,And other Smaller countries

Rest you reading To much On Into American Election Gimmick

State department runs USA not President

Nevertheless Politicians Are tend forget 80 % of there Promises

Rest It Similar line of Every Dem

Obama was no different when he came to India

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ia-on-religious-freedom-idUSKBN0L00FD20150127

I'm here to believe to recommend what's best for my country everyone have different point of view.
Some people want india to become junior partner of USA or end up becoming banana republic. I don't care what others think about india what their public opinion is even if public opinion in USA is very strong for india it take hardly 3-4 years propaganda to change.
It's very funny to say that USA president can't do shit. Actions of trump makes me doubt that.

I personally believe it's difficult to compare india with SK France japan and Germany their even if we combine all of them they will not reach the numbers of our population.

unlike other American fan boy's i believe it's indias greater national interest to keep foreign influences in check rather than signing away our country prone to foreign agendas and this based on policies which GOI makes rather than my own gyaan.

 

[WARREN SS]

pakistan wooing Russia with what? that locust eaten economy?
Russia is smart enought..I guess to know where the business comes from also pakistan will give bad name to Russian products like they did for f-16

With Chinese Push Russians Will anything

If you ask me I really have Doubt On Russians OEM supply of Spares in Sino-Indian conflict

 

[scatterStorm]

Bullshit No one is getting F 22 I think it's either for F 16 or F 35 . That will also mean No S 400 No Su

Media doesn't know shit that there congress won't allow top secret jet to be exported.
Regarding F16s, no we don't want it. F35 we don't need it. Just keep coming MKIs and Rafael's.

We built infrastructure around Rafael, now we gonna do it for the F16s and F35, goodness now, it would take alteast 2 to 3 years.

 

[maomao]

Operational and maintenance costs for F-35 are probably the highest of any warplane
in the world

I agree. However, maintenance and life-cycle costs of Migs and SUs are no less. Plus, Russians are known to fleece you if you are too dependent on them (take Gorshakov as an example)!

F-35s will any-day dominate the skys against SU-27s, 30MKKs and what's that bane of a shame of a stealth fighter chinese fly with canards.

Moreover, take it as - something is better than nothing and this nothing is state of the art (looking how corrupt and lethargic our babus are, if we are able to get these, I would say good job Raksha Mantri for overruling the so called experts and south block babus)!

 

[muralidon924]

Time for India to ban them too

 

[sorcerer]

With Chinese Push Russians Will anything

If you ask me I really have Doubt On Russians OEM supply of Spares in Sino-Indian conflict

I suppose that doubt would have been ironed out already with the RM to Moscwa visit last week.
Russians very well know the chinese nibbling on their eastern territory too.
lets see..how Russia leverages the situation to please just one arrogant china

 

[scatterStorm]

more spice 2000.

What about our desi LG-PGM's?

 

[sorcerer]

Time for India to ban them too

Top ministers discuss ‘ban’ on Chinese 5G equipment

Top ministers discuss ‘ban’ on Chinese 5G equipment - Times of India

India Business News: The government has begun consultations at the highest level to decide on the use of 5G technology, which is seen as a precursor to a possible bar on t

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

Already in Queue and

FCC bars Huawei and ZTE from subsidies, citing national security

FCC bars Huawei and ZTE from subsidies, citing national security

It's the latest step in an escalating fight over the security of the Chinese firms.

www.axios.com

 

[Anandhu Krishna]

That an agreement has been signed that terms were agreed too by Indian Govt.

That's COMCASA

 

[ARVION]

What about our desi LG-PGM's?

There is difference in size and explosive type we are only going for the heavier 900 kilograms spice 2000 not for 1000 or 500

 

[Anandhu Krishna]

Well I Will Reverse this logic on you

US Will say Pakistani's Are Our Long term Allies (like Russians for India)

We Will give them F-16 Block 60 MLU(AESA Upgrade) With AIM-120 D + CBU-105 under FMS

And Stand Off's JSOW

What Will be your reactions on this ????

Geopolitics is Very cruel game My friend

US have benn equipping Pakis with state of the art equipments for decades. Its nothing new. My reaction will be to find a way to counter it. Like we always did and win, like we always did.

 

[tarunraju]

Time for India to ban them too

And just like that, the non-violent cyber world war has started. A silicon curtain will be raised across the Himalayas and the Chinese coasts.

 

[Suryavanshi]

Well Russian Did start using relation With Pakistani's to warning to us

China On Its Side, Pakistan Going All Out To Woo Russia; Counter India-US Alliance

Pakistan Foreign Minister SM Qureshi in conversation with his Russian counterpart Sergey Lavrov expressed Islamabad’s desire to have a long and multidimensional relationship with Moscow. Can the growing closeness between Pakistan and Russia change the political and diplomatic relationship...

eurasiantimes.com

Solution to all this is to buy shit ton of weapons to make Russians happy
buy wepaon to make USA happy

Why not buy weapons to make china and Pakistan happy as well.

Niggas are whipping us into submission and we are doing it because we are weak ourselves.

It's time to become self dependent.

Don't need to buy F 35 or SU 35 just whip babus and industry into making more mK 1.

Will OFB still be negotiating prices of Rifle when the Chinese reach delhi.

 

[scatterStorm]

But we cannot wait till AMCA comes we need aircrafts right now

Even right now isn't the possibility, we can ask only France and Russia to give us the jets. Any new jet, even F21 will take time to have training, facilities to be built for.

On a second thought, SU34 is extremely good choice, because it can suffice both naval and air-bombing roles. AFAIK, It is the only fighter in Russian airforce to have terrain following and terrain avoidance modes.
Its also the only fighter bomber to have combat proven experience in a highly contested airspace over Syria. Operational 128 aircrafts with RAF already.

It has a good payload carrying capacity, low radar cross section, built for tough terrain avoidance and can work for navy too. Its newer AESA radar got combat clearance in 2016. A max take of weight of whopping 45Tons.

The issues are two few, but one of them is major, its T/W is almost 0.7

 

[Knowitall]

Well Russian Did start using relation With Pakistani's to warning to us

China On Its Side, Pakistan Going All Out To Woo Russia; Counter India-US Alliance

Pakistan Foreign Minister SM Qureshi in conversation with his Russian counterpart Sergey Lavrov expressed Islamabad’s desire to have a long and multidimensional relationship with Moscow. Can the growing closeness between Pakistan and Russia change the political and diplomatic relationship...

eurasiantimes.com

So? India cannot have the best of both worlds.

Compared to US russia has still not done.uch for pakistan whereas us keeps pumping money into them whatever may he the reason at the end they are funding our enemies repairing their f-16.

Atleast with russia their is a semblance of partnership but with us it will also be one one of puppet master.

 

[WARREN SS]

US have benn equipping Pakis with state of the art equipments for decades. Its nothing new. My reaction will be to find a way to counter it. Like we always did and win, like we always did.

How Will u Counter ???


Russians has Nothing to Counter Russians are defeated technologically due To Economy

Chinese


Let me Assure You If US really anti India
GE Will be never Be Participating In LCA

 

[cereal killer]

What about our desi LG-PGM's?

All this talk about foreign equipments, emergency procurement it all points to the fact that our armed forces still don't trust our indigenous capability. Except for Indian artillery I don't think there anything noteworthy to write about. Most of our programs are either stuck or suffering from budget cuts. We have a hard task at our hand to become aatamnirbhar. We have serious issues like our depleting fighter jet squadrons. We have nobody but ourselves to blame.

 

[scatterStorm]

There is difference in size and explosive type we are only going for the heavier 900 kilograms spice 2000 not for 1000 or 500

So 1000 isn't better than 900Kg? So we are stuck on size of bombs now.

 

[ARVION]

Even right now isn't the possibility, we can ask only France and Russia to give us the jets. Any new jet, even F21 will take time to have training, facilities to be built for.

On a second thought, SU34 is extremely good choice, because it can suffice both naval and air-bombing roles. AFAIK, It is the only fighter in Russian airforce to have terrain following and terrain avoidance modes.
Its also the only fighter bomber to have combat proven experience in a highly contested airspace over Syria. Operational 128 aircrafts with RAF already.

It has a good payload carrying capacity, low radar cross section, built for tough terrain avoidance and can work for navy too. Its newer AESA radar got combat clearance in 2016. A max take of weight of whopping 45Tons.

The issues are two few, but one of them is major, its T/W is almost 0.7

Rafale EW capabilitie's are enought to take on China's it could go deep into the tibet destory's strategic target's and come back easily