India-China Border conflict

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Posting this here for what this basically conveys is China is well on track to 100% EVs as per plans, thus replacing their ICE automobiles possibly as early as 2030
Doesn't China has something like 500 automotives brands?

What's with that?
 

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Posting this here for what this basically conveys is China is well on track to 100% EVs as per plans, thus replacing their ICE automobiles possibly as early as 2030 thus solving their Malacca dilemma & its around the same time they'd accomplish their military modernisation & reorganization viz theaterization . Do remember that China produces 20-25% of its own crude oil .

Hence any time around 2030 give or take we can either expect them to launch their campaign to take Taiwan or across the LAC
Coming to the question of utility of EV's.
Are all electric vehicles hybrid type vehicles. Meaning that if they are unable to recharge the batteries or charge becomes zero they can switch over to fossil fuels like petrol and diesel. All of them having at least a small fuel tank and associated equipment.

Now consider an hypothetical situation.
Assume that Beijing has only Electric Vehicles. Let's say about 2 million in numbers.
The capital city gets its power from 3 large power generating stations(an assumption). Now an enemy state calculates that they can bring all transportation modes in Beijing to a halt by destroying the Power Generation facilities.
So they go ahead and bomb out the Power Stations and the main power transmission infrastructure.

Now will all of Beijing grind to a stop with nobody being able to travel. Even if we calculate that some percentage of vehicles batteries had already been charged, how long would they last.

We assume that all the residenses and offices do not have power generating devices(gensets). Most are fully dependent on the power supply from the main Power Stations.

Such a scenario may not actually happen. But nevertheless??.
 

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Depends on their artillery capabilities and resupply chains that they can bring to bear upon along with drones and communication coverage.
Both their artillery & resupply chains are better than us. But then we are talking about a meat-grinder war which both China & India will avoid unless forcefully pushed into one.
 

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Chinese soliders :- We need oxygen cylinders to survive, we can't climb without rope & support, we are getting frostbitten.


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Indian soliders :- You know what this perfect cold morning needs ? A sick guitar jam session with my homies atop these mountains !

 

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Chinese soliders :- We need oxygen cylinders to survive, we can't climb without rope & support, we are getting frostbitten.


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Indian soliders :- You know what this perfect cold morning needs ? A sick guitar jam session with my homies atop these mountains !

Chinese knows that PLA soldiers cant withstand indian soldiers so they have increased their missile production three times....
 

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Chinese knows that PLA soldiers cant withstand indian soldiers so they have increased their missile production three times....
Totally agree. Let's not get into padosi mentality of 1 mian = 10 baniya! Look how well that worked out for them. Not to belittle IA here. I am sure they will fight with balls hanging and put the fear of God in those atheist commies!

PLA/PRC for all their initial acclimatization struggles have hardy mountain people and will eventually overcome it in a few years. There is no contest between their production capacity vs ours. For arguments sake, even if we have qualitatively superior stuff, they are mostly borrowed and limited in quantity while they will drown us with quantity even if they are of inferior quality.
 

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There could be reasons behind this move. This summer we will see actions. Hope IA is prepared.
I think that we are preparing to implement a strategy similar to the 1965 war. We are going to loose some territory, and instead of fighting till the last man at a place where we may have a tactical disadvantage, we will grab as much of the Chinese territory as we can in a different sector.

The Chinese navy cannot block India's energy and weapon supplies through the ocean route. The Indian navy in the IoR is a beast.
 

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The Chinese Soldier Trained By Americans to Kill Americans

A Report on Chinese Infiltration of the American Tactical Community




Zhang training PAP SWAT in Chongqing, PRC. Image from 2021.
Executive Summary


  • Based on evidence from US and Chinese social media, Vermilion has identified that a Chinese special forces soldier received training from former U.S. special forces on American soil.
  • Pengxiang “Chris” Zhang, a People’s Liberation Army (PLA) soldier lived, studied, and trained in the United States from at least 2014 to 2020.
  • Since returning to the People’s Republic of China (PRC) in 2020, Zhang has trained People’s Armed Police (PAP) and PLA units on tactics, techniques, and procedures (TTPs) he learned from former U.S. special operators and service members.







Zhang (right) in Fuzhou, People’s Republic of China (PRC), Nov 2022. Note both individuals’ QBZ-191/192, the PLA’s next generation service rifle and carbine, respectively. Zhang’s rifle features a modified upper receiver, something typically only permitted for PLA special operations forces and PAP units. The caption for this image was “与时俱进,枕戈待旦 #taiwan #2025.” This roughly translates to “keep on improving, prepare for battle #taiwan #2025”.
After graduating in 2017, Zhang then moved to New York City. While in New York, Zhang traveled throughout the United States to Virginia Beach, VA; Fort Collins, CO; Navato, CA; Los Angeles, CA; Waxahachie, TX; and Las Vegas, NV in order to attend tactical training classes run by Ronin Tactics, Core Vision Training, and Dynamis Alliance.


Zhang (right) at a Ronin Tactics course in Fort Collins, CO in Dec 2018. Tu Lam (left) is a former U.S. Army special operator.

Dom Raso (left), a former Navy SEAL with Zhang in Dec 2018. Note that Virginia Beach, VA is home to Naval Intelligence and Norfolk, VA is home to the U.S. Navy’s Fleet Forces Command. Since 2018, Dom Raso has engaged with Zhang on social media.

Zhang at a range in Las Vegas, NV, March 2019.

Zhang (second to the right) at Extreme Tactics and Training Solutions in Waxahachie, TX in May 2019.

Zhang (rear left) at a Core Vision Training class in Los Angeles County, CA in Oct 2019. The course subject matter included close quarters battle (CQB). Core Vision Training courses are taught by U.S. Army and USMC veterans.

Zhang (left of center) with Tu Lam (left) at a Ronin Tactics CQB course in Novato, CA in Nov 2019.

Zhang at Extreme Tactics and Training Solutions in Waxahachie, TX in March 2020.

Zhang’s patch states, “We must liberate Taiwan,” in the style of a Chinese Communist Party propaganda image from the 1940’s/50’s. This image was taken the same time as the previous image.
In May 2020, Zhang left the United States and returned to China. According to his social media accounts, Zhang returned to the PLA Central Theater Command Headquarters located in Shijiazhuang, Hebei and he refers to the Shijiazhuang Army Command College (石家庄陆军指挥学院) as home. This college is an intermediate command college within the People’s Liberation Army National Defense University that provides joint training for military, political, and technical personnel.

From June 2020 to August 2022, Zhang posted training photos and videos with the PLA’s next generation weapon systems, namely the QBZ-191, QCQ-171, and QBU-203. From August 2022 on, Zhang posted photos and videos on social media of himself training Chinese SWAT teams throughout China and conducting CQB with PLA soldiers (likely PLA special operations forces). Based on the speed at which Zhang transitioned from student in the US, to small team training, to training units himself, it is almost certain that Zhang was a PLA soldier prior to entering the United States.


Zhang (identifiable through right forearm tattoo and right bicep tattoo) with the PLA’s new submachine gun, the QCQ-171. Also note the EOTech optic that is subject to US export controls.

Zhang (right) with a compact close circuit rebreather and another PLA soldier (left) with high altitude jump equipment. This equipment is typically only issued to PLA special operations forces.


In the above two images, the China South Industries Group Corporation (CSGC) utilized Zhang in advertising materials at the Zhuhai Airshow in 2022. The materials were promoting a new training system (that could possibly have been based on what Zhang learned in the United States). CSGC is one of China’s largest state-owned weapons manufacturers. Additionally, Zhang served as a representative for Argus Night Vision, a well known Chinese night vision tube and housing manufacturer. Argus improves its designs by selling their products to the US and then receiving feedback from American citizens on their products.


Zhang with a QJY-201, the PLA’s next generation general purpose machine gun. Image from Dec 2022.

Zhang (center right) with what is almost certainly the Falcon Commandos (猎鹰突击队) or the Snow Leopard Commandos (雪豹突击队). Both are People’s Armed Police (PAP) special forces units tasked with “counter-terrorism.” Image from February 2023.

Zhang training a PAP SWAT unit in Chongqing, PRC. Note his Ronin Tactics hat and his desert Marine pattern (MARPAT) trousers. Image from June 2023, similar images from 2021.

Zhang (far right) with a PAP SWAT team. Image from August 2023.

Based on the images uploaded by Zhang, it is highly likely he is currently a non-commissioned officer in either the PLA Strategic Support Force (SSF) special operations forces or other PLA SOF. Image from Nov 2023.
Why Does This Matter?


Is it almost certain that a PLA special forces operator was living and training on US soil for at least 7 years. He was able to avoid US law enforcement and bring training derived from the most elite American special operations forces back to China. The military balance between the U.S. and the PRC is of the utmost importance to American national security. It is often said that American military units are of superior quality to the People’s Liberation Army. This will cease to be the case if highly trained Americans erode their own military’s fighting edge.

Recommendations

  • Continue thoroughly vetting all Chinese international students in the United States for any military background and/or military associations.
  • The American tactical industry/community must come together and police their own. Doing business with the PLA is self-defeating.
https://www.vermilionchina.com/p/the-chinese-soldier-trained-by-americans
There were quite a few reports of retired pilots and SOF personnel from NATO countries being offered hundreds of thousands of $$$$ for training the Chinese and have been caught resulting in these countries to issue a warning and formulate guidelines to their respective veteran communities. No wonder China will now have to look for other sources like the above. While such tactical training classes may not give them the complete access from how western SOF units operate, it's still a good source from a tactical standpoint like gear, arms n ammo, accessories, drills related to fitness, stance, posture, shooting and certain operational procedures

Former British pilots training Chinese military face jail
More reasons to believe why the west is on the decline. Too much trusting of chinkas who immigrate there and speak in amreekan accent
 

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More reasons to believe why the west is on the decline. Too much trusting of chinkas who immigrate there and speak in amreekan accent
chinkis mastered the art of espionage and stealing tech. If they're able to get a hold of some of the most sophisticated tech like F35, getting to know SF tactics is insignificant since most civilians including visa holders in the US can attend such tactical courses to gain a foothold. Several retired SOF members have setup similar courses and make decent money. There's a vet in the gun range I visit and he frequently offers courses off the book. I haven't attended any since I don't own an AR but he seems to be on par with Ronin tactical and the likes from some of his videos and reviews I heard from other members in the range

We should be more worried about why India, particularly IA isn't taking advantage of the interactions and joint exercises with other western or NATO SOF units. Given how Para SF operators have been falling like flies in the hands of TRF, they'll surely loose in CQBs' with regular units of western countries
 

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We should be more worried about why India, particularly IA isn't taking advantage of the interactions and joint exercises with other western or NATO SOF units. Given how Para SF operators have been falling like flies in the hands of TRF, they'll surely loose in CQBs' with regular units of western countries
From posting pics of Paki soldiers with captured al Qaeda fighters in the other thread to this on this thread. Hmmmmm
 

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