India-China Border conflict

[Blademaster]

Rockdog, please don't accept my post as an indication that PLA kicked our Indian ass. Our IA woke up and finally chase your PLA's ass out and even whupped your PLA's ass in 1967.

 

[mist_consecutive]

Someone forgot to tell Manojwa we've a date with destiny as far as China's concerned. If I didn't know better this seems a replay of the events leading up to 1962.

Artillery modernization is meandering, rocket force is yet to be raised, we're doing somewhat better as far as drones go with micro & minis being sourced locally & the heavier long endurance ones imported, Agniveers gradually taking over, etc.

One would've thought the best way forward in such a grim scenario would be to increase manpower intake or at least leave them at current levels. Sadly not to be.

The top brass seems to be totally out of their depths. This is going to end very badly.

I support this move. We have too much extra flab which is wasted on absolutely nothing actually. Army will be knowing better.

Just FYI, cutting down troops doesn't mean we will be removing active infantry or armour brigades, no. What COAS means is removing all the extra roles & jobs which are not required.

“We are not ‘Downsizing’ but ‘Rightsizing’ our Army”

In an interview with <strong>Jayant Baranwal, Editor-in-Chief, <em>SP’s Land Forces</em>,</strong> covering a wide range of subjects, <strong>General Manoj Pande, Chief of the Army Staff,</strong> talks about how the Indian Army is developing its capability and operational readiness to meet the...

www.spslandforces.com

Besides this, we should remember that we have BSF, ITBP, SSB and Assam Rifles as first line of defence. Army is a purely offensive arm which takes over when threat is obvious. CAPFs have participated & will participate in any active conflict in future.

Future of warfare is not infantry wave. It is mechanized, autonomous & man-unmanned teaming.

China has also recently downsized their army.

China reduces army by half; increases size of navy, air force in big way

In the last few years, the PLA has downsized its military by retrenching three lakh troops under the military reforms initiated by President Xi Jinping. But it still remained the world's largest military with two million personnel in the ranks.

economictimes.indiatimes.com

 

[rockdog]

A more specific deal signed one week ago.

 

[Jimih]

A more specific deal signed one week ago.

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Will meet the same fate as the Gwadar port in Pakistan.

Chinese nationals working in this project will be neutralized by the rebels and the locals.

 

[Azaad]

A more specific deal signed one week ago.

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In what way is Myanmar connected to a thread on the Indo Chinese conflict ? What next ? Anything connected to Vietnam or Philippines or even Taiwan features here ? Aren't you pushing your luck ?

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

Some SM from LAC, btw at 1:20:00 any idea when it happened and what exactly was meant by the citation?

 

[rockdog]

Will meet the same fate as the Gwadar port in Pakistan.

Chinese nationals working in this project will be neutralized by the rebels and the locals.

This one is better, half of rebel armies speaks Chinese, if you would google Kokang race.

Half of pipelines goes through rebel areas.

And this deal says there will be 10km extended range China would deploy armed guard from chinese security companies.

 

[Azaad]

This one is better, half of rebel armies speaks Chinese, if you would google Kokang race.

Half of pipelines goes through rebel areas.

And this deal says there will be 10km extended range China would deploy armed guard from chinese security companies.

Evidently you don't know where are the Kokang or the Wu located do you wumao ? Which is why you think this'd be a cakewalk .

 

[Jimih]

This one is better, half of rebel armies speaks Chinese, if you would google Kokang race.

Where there is Kokangs in Rakhine state where the so called "port" is coming?

This project is doomed from the start.

 

[Jimih]

Evidently you don't know where are the Kokang or the Wu located do you wumao ? Which is why you think this'd be a cakewalk .

He and all the Chinese members here in DFI main source of info is from heavily moderated Weibo.

 

[JBH22]

I support this move. We have too much extra flab which is wasted on absolutely nothing actually. Army will be knowing better.

Just FYI, cutting down troops doesn't mean we will be removing active infantry or armour brigades, no. What COAS means is removing all the extra roles & jobs which are not required.

“We are not ‘Downsizing’ but ‘Rightsizing’ our Army”

In an interview with <strong>Jayant Baranwal, Editor-in-Chief, <em>SP’s Land Forces</em>,</strong> covering a wide range of subjects, <strong>General Manoj Pande, Chief of the Army Staff,</strong> talks about how the Indian Army is developing its capability and operational readiness to meet the...

www.spslandforces.com

Besides this, we should remember that we have BSF, ITBP, SSB and Assam Rifles as first line of defence. Army is a purely offensive arm which takes over when threat is obvious. CAPFs have participated & will participate in any active conflict in future.

Future of warfare is not infantry wave. It is mechanized, autonomous & man-unmanned teaming.

China has also recently downsized their army.

China reduces army by half; increases size of navy, air force in big way

In the last few years, the PLA has downsized its military by retrenching three lakh troops under the military reforms initiated by President Xi Jinping. But it still remained the world's largest military with two million personnel in the ranks.

economictimes.indiatimes.com

Maybe what is not required to cut down troop strength, but instead do away with the tradition of using troops for showpiece role.
Doing away with the sahayak crap can be useful {Can someone confirm if it is on going}

 

[vidhwanshak]

Some SM from LAC, btw at 1:20:00 any idea when it happened and what exactly was meant by the citation?

mujhe samjh nahi aaya iska citation.
kis cheez ki recovery ?

EDIT :

Gov presents citations to infantry battalions | The Arunachal Times

I think its for that virak China kuttai Video

 

[another_armchair]

Maybe what is not required to cut down troop strength, but instead do away with the tradition of using troops for showpiece role.
Doing away with the sahayak crap can be useful {Can someone confirm if it is on going}

Will Dumbocrats and junior IPS officers(captain rank level) give away their private army of domestic help, gardeners, cook, sweeper etc?

Areyyyy.. aise kaise?

 

[vidhwanshak]

Some SM from LAC, btw at 1:20:00 any idea when it happened and what exactly was meant by the citation?

What's operation Dorji by Kumaon Reg ?
which unchartered territory was captured ?

 

[vidhwanshak]

Some SM from LAC, btw at 1:20:00 any idea when it happened and what exactly was meant by the citation?

fucking chad
snatched 4 rifles from chinki soldiers and forced them to go back
7 Jan 2022
2022 was wild as fuck

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

What's operation Dorji by Kumaon Reg ?
which unchartered territory was captured ?

Ig some op in eastern Ladakh to setup covert observation devices either behind enemy lines (unlikely) or in some places which were vacated after 62

 

[Corvus Splendens]

u don't have enough knowledge about the J20, even claimes that ws10 was from AL31...

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And didn't know the latest engine is new type named ws15...

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Let me recalled u claimed Tibet railway was powered by HSR..

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Plz, @Azaad for contributing good contents in this thread, stop making false information. Thank you.

Every goddamn engine you have in your fighters are either based on the AL-31 or the RD-33/93. Don't just bullshit whatever you want in a condescending tone. You think we're all idiots here huh ?

 

[vidhwanshak]

Ig some op in eastern Ladakh to setup covert observation devices either behind enemy lines (unlikely) or in some places which were vacated after 62

no it was in silligurri corridor. probably near chicken neck

 

[Azaad]

I support this move. We have too much extra flab which is wasted on absolutely nothing actually. Army will be knowing better.

Just FYI, cutting down troops doesn't mean we will be removing active infantry or armour brigades, no. What COAS means is removing all the extra roles & jobs which are not required.

“We are not ‘Downsizing’ but ‘Rightsizing’ our Army”

In an interview with <strong>Jayant Baranwal, Editor-in-Chief, <em>SP’s Land Forces</em>,</strong> covering a wide range of subjects, <strong>General Manoj Pande, Chief of the Army Staff,</strong> talks about how the Indian Army is developing its capability and operational readiness to meet the...

www.spslandforces.com

The tweet I quoted mentions 1 lakh troops to be Downsized / Rightsized . The interview you've linked quotes 2 lakhs to be Downsized / Rightsized with elaborate explanations on tooth to tail ratio. Are we to understand that the tooth to tail ratio extends to 2 lakh such personnel in a force of a little over 1 million men ?

Besides this, we should remember that we have BSF, ITBP, SSB and Assam Rifles as first line of defence. Army is a purely offensive arm which takes over when threat is obvious. CAPFs have participated & will participate in any active conflict in future.

Sure they will & by the looks of it we seem to be planning unconsciously towards such an end . But is that the primary mandate of these Border Guards & CAPFs or is deployment of these forces in frontline combat our attempt at last ditch defence ?

Future of warfare is not infantry wave. It is mechanized, autonomous & man-unmanned teaming.

Mountain Warfare eats up your human resources which is why what you've posted doesn't hold relevance to mountain warfare.

Moreover just to cite one example in favour of my argument - with drone warfare becoming ubiquitous including in the mountains we'd require dedicated teams on the frontline ( apart from ones operating the long endurance heavy drones ) to operate such micro & mini drones apart from loitering munitions as well as be part of anti drone warfare teams.

Does that call for more trained personnel or less unless we plan to redeploy those "downsized / rightsized" into drone & counter drone warfare ?

China has also recently downsized their army.

China reduces army by half; increases size of navy, air force in big way

In the last few years, the PLA has downsized its military by retrenching three lakh troops under the military reforms initiated by President Xi Jinping. But it still remained the world's largest military with two million personnel in the ranks.

economictimes.indiatimes.com

China has downsized its army & most of the excess manpower have been absorbed into the PLAN , PLAAF , People's Armed Police - PAP & their militias which function as supporting arms to the PLAGF (similar to our CAPFs with multiple responsibilities & as per recent reforms are now answerable only to the CMC which is also the supreme decision making body in China as far as the armed forces go , in charge of all the armed forces & their auxiliary arms ) or reorganized into the newly created PLARF & other such units since the theaterization of their armed services began.

China's Other Army: The People's Armed Police in an Era of Reform

China’s premier paramilitary force—the People’s Armed Police (PAP)—is undergoing its most profound restructuring since its establishment in 1982. Politically, the reforms reaffirm Chinese Communist

inss.ndu.edu

 

[mist_consecutive]

fucking chad
snatched 4 rifles from chinki soldiers and forced them to go back
7 Jan 2022
2022 was wild as fuck
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