India-China Border conflict

[Jimih]

We should just give them up to China and Pakistan then. Sounds like too much work

I have just gave you an Indian Politician's POV.

Yours and Mine are obviously different than these Khaadi kapde pehen ne waales.

 

[DumbPilot]

I have just gave you an Indian Poltician's POV.

Yours and Mine are obviously different than these Khaadi kapde pehen ne waale.

We're at a standoff for 2+ years with one of our neighbors, get our guys killed from the terrorists the other ones send, yet you think that releasing a white paper will pressurize the government?

 

[Jimih]

We're at a standoff for 2+ years with one of our neighbors, get our guys killed from the terrorists the other ones send, yet you think that releasing a white paper will pressurize the government?

You just tell

Why Modi uttered:

Koi nahi ghusa! in first place?

And their lies your answer.

 

[DumbPilot]

You just tell

Why Modi uttered:

Koi nahi ghusa! in first place?

So in the end, there is nothing Gandhian or "peace-cultivated" in our approach to foreign policy and national security. Truthfully, we are just too afraid and just too greedy to see the big picture. Is that correct?

 

[mist_consecutive]

We're at a standoff for 2+ years with one of our neighbors, get our guys killed from the terrorists the other ones send, yet you think that releasing a white paper will pressurize the government?

I think what @Jimih wants to say is even though we want it, political bodies won't ever do it because it affects their chances of political re-election. Releasing the whitepaper will be akin to showing these areas are our targets/election promises which again, will be hard to fulfill because of obvious reasons.

But @Jimih your argument is not totally valid since BJP govt. has regularly promised to get PoK back and nobody cares.

 

[Jimih]

Truthfully, we are just too afraid and just too greedy to see the big picture. Is that correct?

Our time has not yet arrived.

Will only say...

 

[mist_consecutive]

Our time has not yet arrived.

Will only say...

Would have agreed if we had a 100-year forward vision like China, but we don't, we have the memory of a goldfish.

Our adversaries are smart enough to play coy and submissive when they are at a disadvantage, and we are foolish enough to forgive them (Prithviraj syndrome). But when they are strong, they extract every pound of flesh from us.

If let's say hypothetically, 30 years from now Pakistan becomes weak enough to be balkanized or PoK conquered, our gawar woke junta will say, "no war, only peace".

For example, after the 2019 Balakot strike, we had intense cross-border firings and skirmishes, multiple Pakistani forward posts diminished into the ground, and we had complete dominance. We could have just walked and sat on their forward posts and called it ours.

But we all know that never happened.

 

[Augustus]

Would have agreed if we had a 100-year forward vision like China, but we don't, we have the memory of a goldfish.

Our adversaries are smart enough to play coy and submissive when they are at a disadvantage, and we are foolish enough to forgive them (Prithviraj syndrome). But when they are strong, they extract every pound of flesh from us.

If let's say hypothetically, 30 years from now Pakistan becomes weak enough to be balkanized or PoK conquered, our gawar woke junta will say, "no war, only peace".

For example, after the 2019 Balakot strike, we had intense cross-border firings and skirmishes, multiple Pakistani forward posts diminished into the ground, and we had complete dominance. We could have just walked and sat on their forward posts and called it ours.

But we all know that never happened.

The Goal of an Indian politician on an average is to win an election(by hook or by crook). Get as rich as you can get in 5 years. Send your son/daughter abroad. Try to get reelection ticket. If that doesn't happen leave your party and join the rival gang in hopes of currying further cash. That's basically it(There are ofcourse exceptions but this is basically the norm).
Indian politicians are wilfully suffering from tunnel vision syndrome. They have no long term planning capability other then to dream of another 5 years in power. Heck long terms goals are sacrificed on the alter of self gains in this nation. We have done it many times throughout our modern history.

 

[mist_consecutive]

China had to move heavy, unfit-for-mountain warfare Type 99A from Northern China to Pangong Tso after we deployed T-90S on the Rezang La/Rechin La pass as their older Type 88A tanks were at a disadvantage vs. T-90S.

 

[Austin316]

Why suddenly lot Indian Artilleries live firing held very close to LAC, whether this firing exercise is common or something else. @mist_consecutive can you geolocate the place

 

[Crazywithmath]

Controversy in Nepal over defence purchases from China

Ahead of the Nepalese Prime Minister's India visit this week a controversy has erupted in Nepal over its army's plans to procure 26 armoured personnel carriers (APCs) from China's North Industries Group Corporation Limited (Norinco), a state-owned company that has been blacklisted by the United...

economictimes.indiatimes.com

 

[mokoman]

Why suddenly lot Indian Artilleries live firing held very close to LAC, whether this firing exercise is common or something else. @mist_consecutive can you geolocate the place

its mandalthang firing range , allocated to army in 2021 , army been using it for heli firing , arty , vajra k9 .

maybe to validate everything works at high altitudes - high altitude firing tests

 

[Joydeepghosh1976]

DSDBO Road and DBO ALG Are Now Useless

DSDBO Road and DBO ALG Are Now Useless

DSDBO Road The 255 km long Darbuk-Shyok-Daulat Beg Oldie road also called Sub-Sector North Road, is a strategic all-weather road in eas...

rbt-defense.blogspot.com

 

[mist_consecutive]

DSDBO Road and DBO ALG Are Now Useless

DSDBO Road and DBO ALG Are Now Useless

DSDBO Road The 255 km long Darbuk-Shyok-Daulat Beg Oldie road also called Sub-Sector North Road, is a strategic all-weather road in eas...

rbt-defense.blogspot.com

Yes yes, you are on the correct path. Keep on writing clickbait articles filled with bullshit and falsified information, and soon you will be invited by IndiaToday and Wire. People like Dhruv Rathi and Praveen Sawhney will endorse your views and articles and soon you will be a celebrity!

I can see your bright future as a columnist in Wire or Caravan.

 

[skunk works]

The only Indian youtubers I watch is the motorcycle riders community.

I haven't watched it in full, but by your description, it seems not worth my time. 22 min is too long for me without any substantial information to be gained.

Also, you cannot do anything about it. Youtuber (any influencer) business is heavily paid and they just drown in money for promotions and propaganda. I have first-hand accounts of famous YouTubers taking huge sums of money to propagate corporate propaganda to malign and defeat rivals, so I don't see why people like Dhruv Rathi and these folk are under the direct payroll of Soros & CIA.

 

[skunk works]

No he is right. They are named in order of seniority, see: Chhota Shakeel

Are you sure "chota Rajan" is called so because there exists a "bada Rajan" ....or......is it perhaps something more.....sinister.......something much bigger (or smaller if you think about it)???

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[Azaad]

Are you sure "chota Rajan" is called so because there exists a "bada Rajan" ....or......is it perhaps something more.....sinister.......something much bigger (or smaller if you think about it)???

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Bada Rajan - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Sorry for the delay , just noticed the tag.

 

[Sayman Ame]

Bada Rajan - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Sorry for the delay , just noticed the tag.

No he is right. They are named in order of seniority, see: Chhota Shakeel

Lol, no. I wasn't disputing the fact. I know very little about those persons to be talking about how they got their monikers. I just remembered reading an article talking about heights of various personalities, when special mention was made of notorious people who were short.

 

[Porkislayer]

Couldn't find an appropriate thread so posting it here.

 

[Jimih]

I can see your bright future as a columnist in Wire or Caravan.

Maybe he is an intern of Ajai Shukla.