India-China Border conflict

[mist_consecutive]

 

[mist_consecutive]

Yeah, but still Chinaman stronk ! Vro they have space weapons and AI bots, vro their soldiers are just as strong, vro offer your rears to Chinaman !

 

[jai jaganath]

Guys literally I felt dream come true when kambal kutai video appeared
They deserve no mercy only scavenged bodies

 

[shashankk]

Anybody has this one?

 

[The Juggernaut]

Meanwhile, a mallu commie...

You guys can't understand their pain. Inke abbu ko maar padi hai. Ye apna gum bhala kis tarah Bayan karenge..

 

[Mikel]

Yeah, but still Chinaman stronk ! Vro they have space weapons and AI bots, vro their soldiers are just as strong, vro offer your rears to Chinaman !

Remember reading similar reports about Doklam standoff. Curious to know if they are getting better at it and if so how fast.

 

[EarthCitizen]

Anybody has this one?

DFI LITE has blocked this twitter handle ..idk why

 

[kharabela]

Never think people sitting at the decision making table are rational or think like computer in terms of 1,0 . They have their prejudice and irrational image about world . And what message are we sending to them . Do exactly what they do to you or do it more . If they are playing psychological war , do same to them . Humiliate them same way they do to you . Play their game . There cant be any peace unless a equal weight is show on a psychological level . Thing like we are professional army is a librandu coupim . It should be flexible depending upon behavior of enemy like it happened during capt Saurav kalia episode .

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

 

[AlphaLegis]

China's 'salami slicing' tactic has led to more assertive response from Indian Army: Former Army Chief Gen Naravane

His remarks came days after the attempts by People's Liberation Army (PLA) troops to transgress the LAC in Yangtse area of Tawang Sector in Arunachal Pradesh with the Indian Army thwarting the attempt to change the status quo.

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India reserves right to take action if China violates agreement: Former Army Chief

India reserves the right to take any action that it deems fit if China violates the terms of the 1993 agreement, former Army Chief General MM Naravane said while stressing that the neighbouring country is violating the agreement "time and again".

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“As I said, we have always been patrolling upto PP 15, but they were trying to stop us from going to our traditional patrolling point and that was totally unacceptable to us. To stop us from coming, they had established small outposts, you can say, two tents. We objected very vehemently to that but they were adamant that they would not go back. Therefore, we had to be more assertive. That is when they also came with additional strength and entire clash happened in our side of PP 15. As a result, we were able to make sure that they go back,” he said......

This statement from General is important for simple reason that statement of PM in the all party meeting post Galwan clashes wasn't factually correct then. LAC in Galwan valley was clearly demarcated, there wasn't any differing perception, Chinese came and squatted on Indian side of undisputed LAC, IA took measures to assert control, conflict happened on Indian side of LAC.

 

[ezsasa]

This statement from General is important for simple reason that statement of PM in the all party meeting post Galwan clashes wasn't factually correct then. LAC in Galwan valley was clearly demarcated, there wasn't any differing perception, Chinese came and squatted on Indian side of undisputed LAC, IA took measures to assert control, conflict happened on Indian side of LAC.

patrolling upto a PP is not always the same as having permanent hold up till that PP, this is why these are called areas of deferring perceptions. same issue was with pangong tso incident, patrolling parties were going upto a point and later PLA started preventing ITBP/IA from going.

 

[AlphaLegis]

patrolling upto a PP is not always the same as having permanent hold up till that PP, this is why these are called areas of deferring perceptions. same issue was with pangang tso incident, patrolling parties were going upto a point and later PLA started preventing ITBP/IA from going.

Show me one statement from any of IA people acquainted with PP14 wherein they say "Differing perception" in Galwan Valley!

India-China Border conflict

Here are my findings after reading views of so many authors: https://thewire.in/security/china-redrawing-lac-ladakh-1960-claim-line In the west, according to the Chinese officials, from Karakoram Pass, the boundary runs eastward to a point east of 78°05’E , the line turned southwest to a point...

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[Gandaberunda]

his comment makes sense . but recent video is from old clash and just normal standoff . these happen all the time

if Gov leaked this vid as a warning , dec 9 clash must have been brutal for Chinese .

for change they have no option but to stay quiet .

Govt leaked video because session is going on and opposition will create ruckus. To keep em in check also the video is old and may be retaliation tactics for Galwan videos PLA keeps on leaking in regular intervals. PLA took beating and they’re tight lipped if they leak videos more there will be more humiliation for them if actual dec9 drumming videos surface. PLA won’t go on leak vs leak tactics when they’re at disadvantage unlike shiv Aroor claiming

 

[ezsasa]

Show me one statement from any of IA people acquainted with PP14 wherein they say "Differing perception" in Galwan Valley!

it's right there in the statement you posted from the chief, that's the very definition of areas of differing perceptions. both sides don't agree up to where their control exists at a few points along LOC.

earlier these used to be settled thru flag drills, not chini have escalated to sticks and stones, and hence our response.

 

[AlphaLegis]

it's right there in the statement you posted from the chief, that's the very definition of areas of differing perceptions. both sides don't agree up to where their control exists at a few points along LOC.

earlier these used to be settled thru flag drills, not chini have escalated to sticks and stones, and hence our response.

Don't use generic statements to apply to specific scenarios, my simple question is this, was there any differing perception of LAC in Galwan valley historically, or did Chinese change their position post their transgression?

India-China Border conflict

Here are my findings after reading views of so many authors: https://thewire.in/security/china-redrawing-lac-ladakh-1960-claim-line In the west, according to the Chinese officials, from Karakoram Pass, the boundary runs eastward to a point east of 78°05’E , the line turned southwest to a point...

defenceforumindia.com

 

[another_armchair]

We 'leaked' a contact video after almost two and a half years.

The last video we released was a free for all at Pangong Tso lake with a Chinaman pinned down & IA troops in rampage mode.

Galwan followed soon thereafter with Chinese drawing blood. They were looking for revenge for sure.

Hope we are fully prepared for squintys when they come sniffing for revenge though I'd be happier to see them dropped by an IA bullet from a safe distance.

 

[vidhwanshak]

This statement from General is important for simple reason that statement of PM in the all party meeting post Galwan clashes wasn't factually correct then. LAC in Galwan valley was clearly demarcated, there wasn't any differing perception, Chinese came and squatted on Indian side of undisputed LAC, IA took measures to assert control, conflict happened on Indian side of LAC.

What's China perception of LAC in Galwan?
Our is this:

 

[AlphaLegis]

What's China perception of LAC in Galwan?
Our is this:
View attachment 186028

Read this: 1960 claim line, their maximalist position, is the LAC post 62. It's undisputed in Galwan, for the reason that they had reached their claimed line post 62 war. a secondary question, 1960 claim line which forms basis for their claim, could LAC be beyond it? This is what they have been trying to do it this time around in Galwan.

India-China Border conflict

Here are my findings after reading views of so many authors: https://thewire.in/security/china-redrawing-lac-ladakh-1960-claim-line In the west, according to the Chinese officials, from Karakoram Pass, the boundary runs eastward to a point east of 78°05’E , the line turned southwest to a point...

defenceforumindia.com

 

[mokoman]

What's China perception of LAC in Galwan?
Our is this:
View attachment 186028

something like 600m from pp14 , its inside buffer zone now

 

[AlphaLegis]

Read this: 1960 claim line, their maximalist position, is the LAC post 62. It's undisputed in Galwan, for the reason that they had reached their claimed line post 62 war. a secondary question, 1960 claim line which forms basis for their claim, could LAC be beyond it? This is what they have been trying to do it this time around in Galwan.

India-China Border conflict

Here are my findings after reading views of so many authors: https://thewire.in/security/china-redrawing-lac-ladakh-1960-claim-line In the west, according to the Chinese officials, from Karakoram Pass, the boundary runs eastward to a point east of 78°05’E , the line turned southwest to a point...

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LAC, PP14, reality and lies: Walking down Galwan valley with Brigadier RJS Dhillon

A June satellite image showing Chinese military build-up in the Galwan valley. (Photograph: 2020 Planet Labs via Twitter)Since t

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"Brigadier RJS Dhillon (retired) was willing to help out. He has led a foot patrol in the Galwan valley, when he was a captain with Ladakh Scouts, in 1979. During that time, he had patrolled the area of the recent conflict and gone till – what was known as – the “limit of Army patrolling” line. And he was willing to go on record, about his experience in this area, what he saw, how far he patrolled and how far ahead lay the LAC, beyond the point till which our troops were allowed to patrol."

Brig Dhillon says, “Yes, our patrolling point lies well inside the LAC, by over one kilometre, perhaps two. According to Brig Dhillon, the actual LAC alignment in the recent conflict zone is as shown in the map below:

According to Brig Dhillon, it is another 5-plus kilometres from the recent clash zone to where the Chinese road ends and new road construction was seen on their side. This means that smooth movement of the PLA’s equipment and wheeled vehicles is possible till very close to the original LAC.

And the PLA pushed the “new LAC”, into our territory, from the original line which was never disputed. China’s original 1960 claim line never ran into areas they are claiming and intruding into now.