India-China Border conflict

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Sorry for the offtopic but the chronicles of Tibet tell us that the kingdom of khotan shared border with tibetan plateau a bit up towards north and this Kingdom were founded by some 5000?Indian men ministers and son of Ashoka himself whose name was Kustana. This would then become the outpost of BHARAT's culture to China and it was ruled by Bhartiyaized-Sakas carrying Sanskrit names as late as 10th cent ad.

Then it fell to qarakhanids.

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Bhagvaan Shiva artifacts has been excavated from those lands.

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interesting . makes sense that Chinese made aksai chin part of xinjiang (where hotan is now) and not Tibet.


large part of Tibet bordering ladakh was also part of old ladakhi kingdom , including entire pangong tso lake + rutog . that was captured and annexed to Tibet.
 

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I have heard in India, China has blackmailed customers of giving money through nudes when they refuse to pay their money for loans. At least the west doesn't do that.. Yet. Who knows if they had gotten any ideas?
China got that idea from ex bfs who would post nudes of their former g/fs as revenge porn.
 

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If Sri Lankas wants Indian money, it really needs to suck some Indian dick not the other way around

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Sri Lanka is currently in 5$ sucky sucky mode, they will do whatever the dollar asks them to do. We should use this opportunity to economically couple their economy with ours, and make them heavily dependent on us via trade and debt so that they can't disobey us in the future.
Also, we should offer them to switch to INR instead of Sri Lankan rupees or peg their currency against ours like the Nepali rupee or Bhutani ngultrum.
 

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I have heard in India, China has blackmailed customers of giving money through nudes when they refuse to pay their money for loans. At least the west doesn't do that.. Yet. Who knows if they had gotten any ideas?
West already did that. Threats of compromising private things isn't new for Western lw agencies.
 

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Hmm, so as expected, the Taiwan strait crisis has shifted China's focus from Ladakh to the eastern theatre. All buildups and maneuvers have suddenly ceased since the last week.
So it means they will also face issues like us in handling two fronts together, as they will need to shift focus back and forth.

In that aspect they seem to have drawback of longer supply routes like they can't shift troops from one place to another in short periods, they theoretically they can do it with their massive infra but there will be lags and issues in handling of transporting at that magnitude and changing of altitude.
 

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One thing I can't understand from China is why are they making/renovating so much road ? At first, it seems that it is an effort to create infrastructure for border domination, and one will credit it as Chinese superiority in infrastructure development.
However, if you keep on observing, a few peculiar things keep on emerging -
  • They are making 4-line highways where the only traffic they will get is nomads grazing their sheep once a month. I mean, if it is just for military movement, 2-lane will suffice by long-margin.
  • They are renovating roads (re-pitching, making them broader), which are just 2 years old, and are in perfect condition. It is as if they are building just for the sake of building.
  • Most ridiculous, they are creating dual highways, creating another one just beside one existing road, like just 40-50 meters away from the existing one, going parallel. Like, why would you need a dual, 4-lane highway in Aksai Chin for ? This is beyond just infrastructure development and just purely ridiculous.
I strongly think this is not just infrastructure development, but construction companies doing scams (read, sanctioning unnecessary projects from govt., and in return, bribing the Army officials who helped to sanction them).
This is prevalent in China.
 

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Have you watched near peer video on china from American military press or something. What do you say about your that.
Ain't nobody got time for 45mins video. Can you post the highlights if you have watched it ?

So it means they will also face issues like us in handling two fronts together, as they will need to shift focus back and forth.

In that aspect they seem to have drawback of longer supply routes like they can't shift troops from one place to another in short periods, they theoretically they can do it with their massive infra but there will be lags and issues in handling of transporting at that magnitude and changing of altitude.
Fun thing is, we are contemplating a 2-front war since the Indo-China war of 1962, but China never thought of a 2-front scenario arising for itself.

I think the 2-front gravity for China will depend upon how serious is either front. Like, if they get in a war with USA + Taiwan + Japan, it will have to mandatorily assign > 60% of its force to the eastern front, forcing them to fight a strictly defensive battle in Tibet. If we dedicate >60% of the force to fight in Tibet, China will have to retreat in a lot of areas.
 

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I strongly think this is not just infrastructure development, but construction companies doing scams (read, sanctioning unnecessary projects from govt., and in return, bribing the Army officials who helped to sanction them).
This is prevalent in China.
Very possible and this reminds me of 'Chinese Ghost Cities' where nobody lives.

Total Real Estate scam.
 

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Ain't nobody got time for 45mins video. Can you post the highlights if you have watched it ?
1) US Dod have created some atmt thing which will disperse pla and Chinese tactics,psyce to us military to make them ready for PLA.
2)PLA have gone massive reforms it seems to inspired by US military.
3) if we have to go by people in that video US CONSIDERS PLA near peer and something they have very little knowledge and is very different.
They had extensively trained for Russians in Cold War and that seeps in us military /politician time to time. Making it difficult to see and ready for Chinese as survival enemy.
4)them (people in video) considers PLA a neer peer and superior in some field and technology and inferior in some.
5) should pla breaks first island chains it’s game over


these are top of my head .
 

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One thing I can't understand from China is why are they making/renovating so much road ? At first, it seems that it is an effort to create infrastructure for border domination, and one will credit it as Chinese superiority in infrastructure development.
However, if you keep on observing, a few peculiar things keep on emerging -
  • They are making 4-line highways where the only traffic they will get is nomads grazing their sheep once a month. I mean, if it is just for military movement, 2-lane will suffice by long-margin.
  • They are renovating roads (re-pitching, making them broader), which are just 2 years old, and are in perfect condition. It is as if they are building just for the sake of building.
  • Most ridiculous, they are creating dual highways, creating another one just beside one existing road, like just 40-50 meters away from the existing one, going parallel. Like, why would you need a dual, 4-lane highway in Aksai Chin for ? This is beyond just infrastructure development and just purely ridiculous.
I strongly think this is not just infrastructure development, but construction companies doing scams (read, sanctioning unnecessary projects from govt., and in return, bribing the Army officials who helped to sanction them).
This is prevalent in China.
And at the same time, those roads will help the IA immensely in terms of logistics should the IA go on the attack.
 

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