India-China Border conflict

[srevster]

I’m looking at old war records. During World War two, Churchill and Britain were on the brink of defeat. The unwavering public support, the tedious diplomacy and fundamental belief of the leader to take all abuse and ridicule while focusing on building the nation’s capabilities has a lot of similarities with Modi

 

[The Shrike]

This is not new Information, was reported maybe 1/2 -1 years ago (including some stories in International publications).

China Is Building Entire Villages in Another Country’s Territory

Since 2015, a previously unnoticed network of roads, buildings, and military outposts has been constructed deep in a sacred valley in Bhutan.

foreignpolicy.com

 

[scatterStorm]

Civilians as 'first line of defense'

There passing of a border law could be as similar to us passing article 370. You don't pass laws on a whim. Its a signal, a posture to let our leadership know that they aren't going anywhere and that they are adamant of there long term vision of "consolidating all borders by 2021-22", what you have just witnessed people is them executing it. With this, they are challenging our perception. Remember folks,

1. You don't build villages so remotely in a disputed territory unless you have a "historical or cultural" agenda to lay your claim on.
2. Putting military population in the guise of civil and quickly moving in trade to be later filled with actual civil population is "pre-conditioning".
3. Having then a civil population to come in, negates any military intervention on global stage.

I think IA and our leadership has realized it already. The chai biscuit session are all ways to buy time.

 

[Mikel]

UPDATE: India’s unreasonable demands in 13th military talks ‘risk new conflict’ - Global Times

www.globaltimes.cn

Read the article. Frustration of Chinese military official is clearly visible. He speaks the language which is not used by any mature nation in International relations. India's cold blooded formidable response seems to have frustrated China. Neither Modi nor any of our top ranked diplomat or general is responding to the rattled china. They are busy in placing our assets at proper location.

That's just how the Chinese talk though. Always jingoistically barking at someone.

 

[scatterStorm]

That's just how the Chinese talk though. Always jingoistically barking at someone.

GT is a CCPs state mouthpiece, its reputation in global editorial market is what I can say ... cheap gin!

 

[Jimih]

There passing of a border law could be as similar to us passing article 370. You don't pass laws on a whim. Its a signal, a posture to let our leadership know that they aren't going anywhere and that they are adamant of there long term vision of "consolidating all borders by 2021-22", what you have just witnessed people is them executing it. With this, they are challenging our perception. Remember folks,

1. You don't build villages so remotely in a disputed territory unless you have a "historical or cultural" agenda to lay your claim on.
2. Putting military population in the guise of civil and quickly moving in trade to be later filled with actual civil population is "pre-conditioning".
3. Having then a civil population to come in, negates any military intervention on global stage.

I think IA and our leadership has realized it already. The chai biscuit session are all ways to buy time.

Well said, totally agreed.

 

[scatterStorm]

A few observations of mine:

1. US has realized that they are not just facing an economic war, but war on there cultural and philosophical ideologies, i.e. Classic democracy model Vs Pseudo Communist model.
2. Biden is a weak president. Trump had more spine, I mean he was insane but he definitely knew how to execute orders.
3. There's definitely a power struggle going on in Xi's paradise.
4. AUCUS is the new "White Privilege", save my ass daddy model.
5. Bhutan & Nepal Salami Slicing is underway again.

 

[The Shrike]

I’m looking at old war records. During World War two, Churchill and Britain were on the brink of defeat. The unwavering public support, the tedious diplomacy and fundamental belief of the leader to take all abuse and ridicule while focusing on building the nation’s capabilities has a lot of similarities with Modi

Well before Churchill, there was Neville Chamberlain who followed the policy of appeasement, months of "phoney war", was roundly criticised for his conduct before and at the start of the war, and finally resigned to make way for Churchill as the Germans were sweeping through the low countries and France (by which time the die was cast for the outcome of the next couple of years).
I for one think our security issues are only starting and we will see much greater challenges in the coming months and years. We don't have have the hindsight of history to say how things will turn out, only time will tell. But one thing that os similar to WW2 Britain is that this country's people are ready to fight and sacrifice when called to do so and have always done so (even during dire times of 1962). Of course it is up to the leadership of this country to first tell the people that they are in (or at least close to) a state of war.

 

[Jimih]

Baby Steps, but in right direction

 

[srevster]

Well before Churchill, there was Neville Chamberlain who followed the policy of appeasement, months of "phoney war", was roundly criticised for his conduct before and at the start of the war, and finally resigned to make way for Churchill as the Germans were sweeping through the low countries and France (by which time the die was cast for the outcome of the next couple of years).
I for one think our security issues are only starting and we will see much greater challenges in the coming months and years. We don't have have the hindsight of history to say how things will turn out, only time will tell. But one thing that os similar to WW2 Britain is that this country's people are ready to fight and sacrifice when called to do so and have always done so (even during dire times of 1962). Of course it is up to the leadership of this country to first tell the people that they are in (or at least close to) a state of war.

in the context of Chamberlain, I think that’s the Nehru family

 

[vidhwanshak]

Roads are like that for strategic purpose. no need to give pave road to enemy to roll over in case of hostilities.

ho gya?
ab jaao cheeniyo ki gaand maze se chaato.

 

[Waanar]

Roads are like that for strategic purpose. no need to give pave road to enemy to roll over in case of hostilities.

That's a very poor assessment.

Roads are necessary. Any enemy push through them can easily be slowed down by mining and IEDs.

Iirc, there was some congress neta who said the same thing and was ridiculed for it.

 

[Blank]

Tunnels, roads, bridges, chopper bases: Modi govt gives big push to Arunachal infrastructure

Although most of the projects were planned earlier, the ongoing stand-off with China has ensured that they have been sped up on an urgent basis.

theprint.in

 

[Jimih]

no need to give pave road to enemy to roll over in case of hostilities.

WTF just I read? It was like listening to one of the Congress govt's press conferences in the past.

Glad that people like you are not making Government policies anymore.

 

[Jimih]

No need to give pave road all the way to border, no country does that. It's a bad strategy if you don't have the number or superiority on ground & air in case of hostilities.

In that case China by constructing roads along LAC, are they expecting India to roll over in case of hostilities?

Which countries don't do that according to you? And talking about strategies China is doing it.

It seems that your suggestion wasnt acknowledged by them.

 

[Mantospace]

A few observations of mine:

1. US has realized that they are not just facing an economic war, but war on there cultural and philosophical ideologies, i.e. Classic democracy model Vs Pseudo Communist model.
2. Biden is a weak president. Trump had more spine, I mean he was insane but he definitely knew how to execute orders.
3. There's definitely a power struggle going on in Xi's paradise.
4. AUCUS is the new "White Privilege", save my ass daddy model.
5. Bhutan & Nepal Salami Slicing is underway again.

US not going to help India in anyway. I think now india required next generation leaders. World dont admire gandhian words.

 

[Jimih]

More of these needed

 

[Blank]

India comes to Sri Lanka’s rescue despite its China tilt. Will Colombo mend its ways now?

India comes to Sri Lanka’s rescue despite its China tilt. Will Colombo mend its ways now?

With Sri Lanka facing a severe shortage of fertilizers after the import of chemical fertilizers from China was banned, Delhi steps in to speed up supply of nano fertilizer to Colombo.

www.firstpost.com

 

[Blank]

Tasers, Pepper Spray: Chinese PLA Soldiers Patrol Disputed LAC Areas with Unconventional Weapons.

Tasers, Pepper Spray: Chinese PLA Soldiers Patrol Disputed LAC Areas with Unconventional Weapons - News18

The Indian Army is training its troops at high altitudes and in intense physical exercises, combat techniques and other drills every day.

www.news18.com

Ladki hai Ka reh. Pepper spray ghoom kai firta hai

 

[not so dravidian]

Tasers, Pepper Spray: Chinese PLA Soldiers Patrol Disputed LAC Areas with Unconventional Weapons.

Tasers, Pepper Spray: Chinese PLA Soldiers Patrol Disputed LAC Areas with Unconventional Weapons - News18

The Indian Army is training its troops at high altitudes and in intense physical exercises, combat techniques and other drills every day.

www.news18.com

Ladki hai Ka reh. Pepper spray ghoom kai firta hai

Bloody! Call in the trishul and electric gloves from UP!!

And shove this up the ass of Pedobear, 2BHK and chuti"ya journos for trolling

Should encourage such guys given the need has increased