India-China 2020 Border conflict

[Cruise missile]

Lol.

 

[Vishalreddy3]

 

[Apollo]

CCP mouthpiece handle claims PLA helicopter patrolling over Pangong Tso lake. Its pretty much clear they dont respect ROE. Wisely playing information war by claiming it as chinese area

 

[sorcerer]

Uttarakhand floods: Glacier bursts in winter 'next to impossible', say defence scientists




But, scientists monitoring glaciers and avalanches in the region are surprised as they say glacier bursts do not take place in winters.


Defence scientists say that a glacial lake outburst flood (GLOF), a type of outburst flood that occurs when the dam containing a glacial lake fails, is a near impossibility under present climatic conditions: The area is surrounded by snow-capped mountains with temperatures of minus 20 degrees Celsius.


"During winters, glaciers are formed as snow doesn't melt due to the negative temperature. To my understanding, glacier burst in this season is next to impossible. I haven't studied such an incident in the last 50 years," said a defence scientist, who added that the exact cause can be established after studying satellite images.


Without ruling out the possibility of sabotage, defence scientists indicate that several militaries in the world use mountain resources as a weapon to hit enemy territory.

Uttarakhand floods: Glacier bursts in winter 'next to impossible', say defence scientists

Sabotage cannot be ruled out; DRDO team to study site

www.theweek.in

 

[Cheran]

Uttarakhand floods: Glacier bursts in winter 'next to impossible', say defence scientists




But, scientists monitoring glaciers and avalanches in the region are surprised as they say glacier bursts do not take place in winters.


Defence scientists say that a glacial lake outburst flood (GLOF), a type of outburst flood that occurs when the dam containing a glacial lake fails, is a near impossibility under present climatic conditions: The area is surrounded by snow-capped mountains with temperatures of minus 20 degrees Celsius.


"During winters, glaciers are formed as snow doesn't melt due to the negative temperature. To my understanding, glacier burst in this season is next to impossible. I haven't studied such an incident in the last 50 years," said a defence scientist, who added that the exact cause can be established after studying satellite images.


Without ruling out the possibility of sabotage, defence scientists indicate that several militaries in the world use mountain resources as a weapon to hit enemy territory.

Uttarakhand floods: Glacier bursts in winter 'next to impossible', say defence scientists

Sabotage cannot be ruled out; DRDO team to study site

www.theweek.in

Oh God. Not sure how this will be responded to, if not natural.

 

[Floydian]

Oh God. Not sure how this will be responded to, if not natural.

May be "aisa kuch nahi hua...natural tha....Sab changa si"

 

[mist_consecutive]

Oh God. Not sure how this will be responded to, if not natural.

If it wasn't natural, it will be never revealed to us, sadly. ISRO & American satellites are focused on the Indo-China border so if this was a Chinese misadventure it will be caught today or tomorrow.

May be "aisa kuch nahi hua...natural tha....Sab changa si"

Well, that is natural, revealing such information will spread widespread anger among Indians while at the same time we won't be able to do anything.

 

[sorcerer]

If it wasn't natural, it will be never revealed to us, sadly. ISRO & American satellites are focused on the Indo-China border so if this was a Chinese misadventure it will be caught today or tomorrow.



Well, that is natural, revealing such information will spread widespread anger among Indians while at the same time we won't be able to do anything.

They are looking at all sat data from Indian satellites and others.

 

[Knowitall]

Uttarakhand floods: Glacier bursts in winter 'next to impossible', say defence scientists




But, scientists monitoring glaciers and avalanches in the region are surprised as they say glacier bursts do not take place in winters.


Defence scientists say that a glacial lake outburst flood (GLOF), a type of outburst flood that occurs when the dam containing a glacial lake fails, is a near impossibility under present climatic conditions: The area is surrounded by snow-capped mountains with temperatures of minus 20 degrees Celsius.


"During winters, glaciers are formed as snow doesn't melt due to the negative temperature. To my understanding, glacier burst in this season is next to impossible. I haven't studied such an incident in the last 50 years," said a defence scientist, who added that the exact cause can be established after studying satellite images.


Without ruling out the possibility of sabotage, defence scientists indicate that several militaries in the world use mountain resources as a weapon to hit enemy territory.

Uttarakhand floods: Glacier bursts in winter 'next to impossible', say defence scientists

Sabotage cannot be ruled out; DRDO team to study site

www.theweek.in

Extremely concerning if they have somehow managed to weaponise nature itself.

These invisible shots are something govt won't can't respond to.

We didn't accept galwan incursion ghanta we will accept this either.

Anyways @mokoman you did say somewhere about PLA choppers carrying some DEW equipment.

Could you elaborate on it where did it land how far was it from the glacier approximately.

There is a lot to look out here for.

 

[mist_consecutive]

They are looking at all sat data from Indian satellites and others.

Well, I am strongly inclined towards a natural cause because the location where the alleged glacial avalanche took place is a good 30-35 km away from the Chinese border.
The DEW weapons theories are plain laughable because the amount of energy required to melt a glacier is unrealistic.

That leaves CM/BM strike with a significant payload to move & melt the glacial base. Possibility of which is debatable.

 

[sorcerer]

Extremely concerning if they have somehow managed to weaponise nature itself.

These invisible shots are something govt won't can't respond to.

We didn't accept galwan incursion ghanta we will accept this either.

Anyways @mokoman you did say somewhere about PLA choppers carrying some DEW equipment.

Could you elaborate on it where did it land how far was it from the glacier approximately.

There is a lot to look out here for.

Its not weaponising nature with new technology. Its chinese making a shit move with explosives.
They must have sneaked in and planted explosives or something. This part we have to see.

 

[mist_consecutive]

Its not weaponising nature with new technology. Its chinese making a shit move with explosives.
They must have sneaked in and planted explosives or something. This part we have to see.

Sabotage (sneaking in & planting explosives) is not possible. How do you propose they infiltrated? Trekked 30 km across multiple mountains over 6000 meters carrying 200kg TNT to plant at glacier?

 

[Knowitall]

Its not weaponising nature with new technology. Its chinese making a shit move with explosives.
They must have sneaked in and planted explosives or something. This part we have to see.

Extremely doubtful you we need a very sizable amount of explosives to completely damage the glacier.

Also to travel at such -ve temperature areas setting up equipment then planting these explosives at the right spot and the research needed to find these spots are all Herculean tasks which require significant manpower and time.

If all this was indeed happening someone would have noticed something some chatter some notice it is next to impossible to pull such a op without a hitch.

I'm still inclined to believe that this was a one off incident caused due to climate change and varying temperatures.

 

[perun88]

Extremely concerning if they have somehow managed to weaponise nature itself.

These invisible shots are something govt won't can't respond to.

We didn't accept galwan incursion ghanta we will accept this either.

Anyways @mokoman you did say somewhere about PLA choppers carrying some DEW equipment.

Could you elaborate on it where did it land how far was it from the glacier approximately.

There is a lot to look out here for.

This is classic fearprop. Like US blaring spooky music to make vietcong think that it was the ghost of their ancestors. No they can not weaponize nature. First of all, there is no evidence of sabotage, second a dam burst does not require cosmic powers, but tactically placed shaped charges. Let us be reasonable and not give in to wild imagination like some special people of twootar.

 

[perun88]

Sabotage (sneaking in & planting explosives) is not possible. How do you propose they infiltrated? Trekked 30 km across multiple mountains over 6000 meters carrying 200kg TNT to plant at glacier?

There are a hundred rent-a-terrorist mc in India to do their bidding. Remember derailments after UP elections?

 

[sorcerer]

Extremely doubtful you we need a very sizable amount of explosives to completely damage the glacier.

Also to travel at such -ve temperature areas setting up equipment then planting these explosives at the right spot and the research needed to find these spots are all Herculean tasks which require significant manpower and time.

If all this was indeed happening someone would have noticed something some chatter some notice it is next to impossible to pull such a op without a hitch.

I'm still inclined to believe that this was a one off incident caused due to climate change and varying temperatures.

Cannot be too comfortable with the climate change part..with chinese disputed territory just a stone throw away and even chinese warning India on the futility of bulding infrastructure over there...
we should never discount anything...nobody likes any surprises there when it comes to chinese.

 

[Knowitall]

Cannot be too comfortable with the climate change part..with chinese disputed territory just a stone throw away and even chinese warning India on the futility of bulding infrastructure over there...
we should never discount anything...nobody likes any surprises there when it comes to chinese.

Not discounting just doubtful if i remember correctly chinese had built a weather altering station like the haarp built by the US in tibet.

A news clipping about it was posted in one of the threads here sometime back.

Significant strides have been made in this domain and nothing can be out of question.

 

[mokoman]

Uttarakhand floods: Glacier bursts in winter 'next to impossible', say defence scientists




But, scientists monitoring glaciers and avalanches in the region are surprised as they say glacier bursts do not take place in winters.


Defence scientists say that a glacial lake outburst flood (GLOF), a type of outburst flood that occurs when the dam containing a glacial lake fails, is a near impossibility under present climatic conditions: The area is surrounded by snow-capped mountains with temperatures of minus 20 degrees Celsius.


"During winters, glaciers are formed as snow doesn't melt due to the negative temperature. To my understanding, glacier burst in this season is next to impossible. I haven't studied such an incident in the last 50 years," said a defence scientist, who added that the exact cause can be established after studying satellite images.


Without ruling out the possibility of sabotage, defence scientists indicate that several militaries in the world use mountain resources as a weapon to hit enemy territory.

Uttarakhand floods: Glacier bursts in winter 'next to impossible', say defence scientists

Sabotage cannot be ruled out; DRDO team to study site

www.theweek.in

Most probable explanation -

Glacier breaks in Chamoli, experts blame low snowfall

A major disaster struck the Himalayan state of Uttrakhand February 7, 2021. A glacier broke after an avalanche in the Joshimath area of the state’s Chamoli dist

www.downtoearth.org.in

According to experts, the reduced snowfall this winter in Uttarakahnd seems to have played a part in the disaster.


“It is very unusual for something like this to happen at this time. During winters, the rain and snowfall replenishes the glaciers and fixes any structural issues. However, this year, there was reduced snowfall in the higher elevations. This could have been one of the reasons, although it is hard to say right now which glacier has been affected,” a scientist said on the condition of anonymity.

“The Himalayas are warming faster than other mountain ranges and the increased use of reinforced concrete in building construction, replacing the traditional wood and stone masonry there, is likely to create a heat-island effect and thus add to regional warming,” he said. Pandit added: “The government only does things after a disaster has struck, but is never proactive. We have been saying for a long time to set up an early warning system in the Himalayas, like the one set up in coastal areas after the 2004 tsunami, but it’s still not there.”

Extremely concerning if they have somehow managed to weaponise nature itself.

These invisible shots are something govt won't can't respond to.

We didn't accept galwan incursion ghanta we will accept this either.

Anyways @mokoman you did say somewhere about PLA choppers carrying some DEW equipment.

Could you elaborate on it where did it land how far was it from the glacier approximately.

There is a lot to look out here for.

I was only joking . i am no expert but the DEW theory is really dumb.

The government should have been monitoring these glaciers for possible breakup , they didnt , people died.

Why blame chinese ?

 

[mist_consecutive]

There are a hundred rent-a-terrorist mc in India to do their bidding. Remember derailments after UP elections?

You need a massive amount of explosives. Not very easy find.
You need to trek 5-6 days to reach there, you will require a trekking guide, permission to camp, permission from Uttrakhand govt.

Also, you will need expert glacial surveying skills, equipment, finding the weak spots, determine the amount of explosives required to trigger a sustained landslide., the odds against are too long.

It's not like running to your nearest railway line and opening the track bolts.

 

[sorcerer]

Most probable explanation -


The government should have been monitoring these glaciers for possible breakup , they didnt , people died.

Why blame chinese ?

They say its very hard to monitor the conditions. been reading about it though almost for past 2 days.
As you said..hope its not the chinese and its a natural disaster.
Anyway..Tibet needs freedom and no china on our borders if we want to secure our borders.