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what else you expect Mani Shankar Aiyer’s son in law to say?
That's a non issue. His personal opinion.

What's problematic is the statement like "PLA not in our territory" from responsible people like Rajnath.
That means these politicians do not even consider those areas as ours in the first place. What are they looking at? Google Earth LAC? Then we have "Area of differing Perception" to brush everything under the carpet.
 

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That's a non issue. His personal opinion.

What's problematic is the statement like "PLA not in our territory" from responsible people like Rajnath.
That means these politicians do not even consider those areas as ours in the first place. What are they looking at? Google Earth LAC? Then we have "Area of differing Perception" to brush everything under the carpet.
What else you expect GoI to do, give statements that will raise the adversary’s guard up and spook them into making more unpredictable moves, which in turn will spoil our own deployment plans!!!

and it is a fact that inspite of the statements by Ajai Shukla & co, they are yet to provide proof that CCP has actually occupied beyond the LAC except for “Areas of differing perceptions”.
 

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What else you expect GoI to do, give statements that will raise the adversary’s guard up and spook them into making more unpredictable moves, which in turn will spoil our own deployment plans!!!

and it is a fact that inspite of the statements by Ajai Shukla & co, they are yet to provide proof that CCP has actually occupied beyond the LAC except for “Areas of differing perceptions”.
Mind you all these 'Area of Differing perception, 1959 CCL, 1962 CCL, Red line, Green Line, Yellow Line' and then obviously 'Indian perception of 1959 CCL' all these rubbish exist only for India. For China it's one simple line which it expects India to follow i.e. the line goes through an area where it wants.
Rest I see it as lollipop being given to us by these politicians where one is trying to save the Strong Man Image.
 
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Mind you all these 'Area of Differing perception, 1959 CCL, 1962 CCL, Red line, Green Line, Yellow Line' and then obviously 'Indian perception of 1959 CCL' all these rubbish exist only for India. For China it's one simple line which it expects India to follow i.e. the line goes through an area where it wants.
Rest I see it as lollipop being given to us by these politicians where one is trying to save the Strong Man Image.
it just demonstrates, how difficult it is to untie the knots made in the past.

might as well, people focus on not electing political parties which do not have national security as their top priority, for the rest of this century.
 

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Russia Ties Intact But China Challenge Boosting India-U.S. Partnership
U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo (centre) and U.S. Defense Secretary Mark Esper (left) called on Prime Minister Narendra Modi in New Delhi on October 27. (Photo: pmindia.gov.in)
NEW DELHI: The annual Modi-Putin summit looks increasingly unlikely, given the pandemic. It is Putin’s turn to visit but the Russian leader is rarely known to step outside his Kremlin residence and it seems most of his meetings are virtual affairs. Given that, there could be a bit of a risk for Putin to fly out to India for a summit when the virus continues to surge.
A virtual summit, while convenient and safe, may not enable the kind of frank exchange of ideas. As an Indian diplomat pointed out: “There’s only so much possible during a virtual summit and much may remain unsaid.”
Putin may have sought a briefing from Modi on the India-U.S. 2+2 dialogue. That summit is seen as having pushed forward the bilateral relationship, with the agreement on geospatial cooperation, BECA, opening the doors to a major qualitative expansion of the India-U.S. strategic military relationship.
This could imply a dilution of the India-Russia relationship at a time when Moscow leans on China to take on the United States. Indian diplomats may say that is not the case: Russia is a permanent member of the UN Security Council, a nuclear weapons power and a major source of energy and strategic technologies, so India does not see any lessening of Russia’s importance.
India continues to remain dependent to the extent of about 50-60 per cent on Russian military equipment. “There is a kind of appropriateness of Russian weaponry when you consider terrain and warfare conditions,” says P S Raghavan, former ambassador to Moscow. “If we delink from Russia, what happens to all that legacy equipment?”
Defence Minister Rajnath Singh met Russia’s Deputy Prime Minister Yury Borisov in Moscow in June and discussed ways to expand defence cooperation. (Photo: @rajnathsingh)
Deals continue to be made for military equipment. Defence Minister Rajnath Singh has already made two visits to Moscow (in June and September), wish lists in hand. The precise content of those lists is not known but sources told StratNews Global it would have been about making up shortfalls in certain types of ammunition and replenishing other stocks.
There’s speculation about India’s interest in the Russian Sprut light tank for use in the Himalayas. Currently, the T-90 and T-72 tanks are deployed there but these are deemed too heavy for that terrain. Only limited numbers may be acquired since the DRDO has apparently been given the green light to come up with a light tank design based on the BMP chassis.
There’s no clarity on two projects: differences over making the AK-203 rifle in a joint venture in Uttar Pradesh are still to be resolved. Clarity is also required on the plan to build the Kamov-226T helicopter in India. Both projects appear mired over the indigenous content and the cost. In the case of the former project, local lobbies also appear to have got into the act, questioning the need for it when ‘atmanirbhar’ (self-reliance) is all about investing in local strengths.
“The energy relationship is doing well as we are buying more oil from Russia,” says Raghavan. “We have contracted to buy up to two million tonnes this year alone.” A long-term agreement on oil is expected to be signed this year.
Nevertheless, Russia is a declining power, defeated in the Cold War by the U.S. and now playing second fiddle to China’s $13 trillion economy. It cannot provide the kind of strategic leverage to take on Beijing that a partnership with the U.S. gives India.
 

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That's a non issue. His personal opinion.

What's problematic is the statement like "PLA not in our territory" from responsible people like Rajnath.
That means these politicians do not even consider those areas as ours in the first place. What are they looking at? Google Earth LAC? Then we have "Area of differing Perception" to brush everything under the carpet.
Koi nahi ghussa my dude.
Troops will be freezing their balls through winter till March-April, then everything will go back to normal, grabbed areas will be part of the new LAC, and Indians will continue to consoom new Chinese products.

Meanwhile emboldened by this the Chong's will do more and more gandmasti in the coming years, eventually GoI will have to react, putting head in sand like Ostrich and doing KoI NaHi GhUsSa will not change the reality.

If they are so spooked about the 10 foot China man and his large economy and all, go back to the old congressi policy of not allowing reporting of any landgrabs, atleast spare us the heartburn.
 

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Also this. PLA not in our territory. Time to pack up bois. 😂

God bless these politicians.
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Article https://www.indiatoday.in/india/sto...h-lac-tension-live-updates-1720747-2020-09-11

Defence Minister Rajnath Singh on Monday slammed Rahul Gandhi over the Congress leader's claims of Chinese intrusion during the border standoff between India and China at the Line of Actual Control (LAC), saying the situation was under control and the PLA did not enter the Indian territory.


In an exclusive interview with India Today TV, Rajnath Singh said he has cleared the government's stand on the LAC standoff with the Chinese army. "The situation is in our control....the claims of Chinese entering Indian territory are completely baseless,"


Rajnath Singh also said that commander-level talks with China are underway. He said, "We don't know when it will be resolved but we are trying", adding that it was not in the country's interest to disclose all the details.


Is he saying that PLA is only occupying the LAC buffer zone ?


publically : Aksai Chin is ours , our home minister will give up his life to get it back .
privately : no chinese in indian territory , chene plz gib back land. lol.
 

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Article https://www.indiatoday.in/india/sto...h-lac-tension-live-updates-1720747-2020-09-11

Defence Minister Rajnath Singh on Monday slammed Rahul Gandhi over the Congress leader's claims of Chinese intrusion during the border standoff between India and China at the Line of Actual Control (LAC), saying the situation was under control and the PLA did not enter the Indian territory.


In an exclusive interview with India Today TV, Rajnath Singh said he has cleared the government's stand on the LAC standoff with the Chinese army. "The situation is in our control....the claims of Chinese entering Indian territory are completely baseless,"


Rajnath Singh also said that commander-level talks with China are underway. He said, "We don't know when it will be resolved but we are trying", adding that it was not in the country's interest to disclose all the details.


Is he saying that PLA is only occupying the LAC buffer zone ?


publically : Aksai Chin is ours , our home minister will give up his life to get it back .
privately : no chinese in indian territory , chene plz gib back land. lol.
Why are they holding chai biscoot sessions with chinks and why is there buildup on LAC if “Cheenez didn’t grab an inch of indian territory”

They should atleast try to make sense with these KoI nAhi GhUsSa type statements and actions on the ground.
 

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Article https://www.indiatoday.in/india/sto...h-lac-tension-live-updates-1720747-2020-09-11

Defence Minister Rajnath Singh on Monday slammed Rahul Gandhi over the Congress leader's claims of Chinese intrusion during the border standoff between India and China at the Line of Actual Control (LAC), saying the situation was under control and the PLA did not enter the Indian territory.


In an exclusive interview with India Today TV, Rajnath Singh said he has cleared the government's stand on the LAC standoff with the Chinese army. "The situation is in our control....the claims of Chinese entering Indian territory are completely baseless,"


Rajnath Singh also said that commander-level talks with China are underway. He said, "We don't know when it will be resolved but we are trying", adding that it was not in the country's interest to disclose all the details.


Is he saying that PLA is only occupying the LAC buffer zone ?


publically : Aksai Chin is ours , our home minister will give up his life to get it back .
privately : no chinese in indian territory , chene plz gib back land. lol.
Foot in the mouth disease. Elections/Votes are more important to the politicians. Rest you have troll brigades of each political parties to take care of their respective political narratives and the cycle goes on.
 

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Another set of updates regarding Oli's lube oil


1. China allegedly began seizing Nepalese land in five frontier districts in May, sending members of its People’s Liberation Army (PLA) across undefended areas of the border.

2. Further annexations occurred in the Rasuwa, Sindhupalchowk and Sankuwasabha districts, after Chinese engineers in the Tibet Autonomous Region diverted the flow of rivers acting as a natural boundary and claimed the previously submerged Nepalese territory.

3. PLA soldiers also moved border pillars further into Nepalese territory in the district of Gorkha.

4. “Why should China come over into Nepal, when China is already sixty times the size of our small country?" said Jeevan Bahadur Shahi, a lawmaker in the Nepali Congress Party.

5. The alleged land-grabs in Humla appear to have been motivated by the strategic view the district’s mountain peaks offer over the Himalayas, according to Nepalese politicians.

6. In 2009, Chinese troops first crossed over into the undefended district & built a veterinary centre for livestock. People were told by the Nepalese government the building would have a positive impact for the impoverished local residents who usually herding yak and goats.

7. He says he received telephone calls from local villagers in June, reporting stone pillars marking the undefended border had been moved further inside Nepalese territory in the Limi Valley by Chinese troops.

8. 30 hectares of Nepalese land were seized in the Limi Valley in this recent incursion. Chinese troops built an additional 9 buildings, including military bases. He says China annexed more land in the Humla district in June, in Hilsa, for a total over 70 hectares.

9. In the north-western district of Humla, PLA troops crossed the border into the Limi Valley & Hilsa, moving stone pillars (which had previously demarcated the boundary) further into Nepalese territory before constructing military bases.
 

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Within mere minutes of Trump losing (if he loses), Facebook and Twitter (and several other western SM platforms) will be blocked in India. GoI believes that the political neutrality of these platforms is too far gone to be safe for public discourse in India, and can be used against the BJP in future elections.
I would like to believe this but this is simply not possible or going to happen.

We are a democratic country such behavior will lead to widespread riots.

Recently you even talked about door to door IT Check and tax collection something like that even that did not happen.

The steps you talk about might be planned but their implementation is next to impossible.

I dont know who gave you this info but this is simply not possible.

Banning social media sites in a very adverse step and govt will need more reasons than the one stated to ban them.
 

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Big Blow to China, Indian Smart Phone brand MicroMax brought 2 new smartphones enough to destroy chinese phone market!

only downfall is that it comes with a chinese MediaTek processor, I mean ₹500 extra for a qualcomm processor would‘ve been appreciated.

but still it’ll destroy the chinese market here but then there are brands like Xiaomi which are ready to reduce the profit margin a bot further, I guess Indian Government should impose higher import duties on smartphone components that are mostly used by chinese phone makers, but then these brands have invested more than 14 billion dollars in India, if they will go then it will be a huge blow to us.
 

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Big Blow to China, Indian Smart Phone brand MicroMax brought 2 new smartphones enough to destroy chinese phone market!

only downfall is that it comes with a chinese MediaTek processor, I mean ₹500 extra for a qualcomm processor would‘ve been appreciated.

but still it’ll destroy the chinese market here but then there are brands like Xiaomi which are ready to reduce the profit margin a bot further, I guess Indian Government should impose higher import duties on smartphone components that are mostly used by chinese phone makers, but then these brands have invested more than 14 billion dollars in India, if they will go then it will be a huge blow to us.
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lol no.
Not so soon atleast.

The ideal way to get rid of Chong is harass Xiaomeme and BBK in every way possible, to jack up the prices of their phones or force an exit from India.
I feel ching (((investments))) here will increase, even if they may not be prudent, all for the tactical objective of making India economically dependent on China, as yet another lever to exert pressure on us
 

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Big Blow to China, Indian Smart Phone brand MicroMax brought 2 new smartphones enough to destroy chinese phone market!

only downfall is that it comes with a chinese MediaTek processor, I mean ₹500 extra for a qualcomm processor would‘ve been appreciated.

but still it’ll destroy the chinese market here but then there are brands like Xiaomi which are ready to reduce the profit margin a bot further, I guess Indian Government should impose higher import duties on smartphone components that are mostly used by chinese phone makers, but then these brands ha

ve invested more than 14 billion dollars in India, if they will go then it will be a huge blow to us.
Stock android with less price in India specs hungry market is sure sure hit. They just have to maintain the quality.

PS seeing people butt hurt on social media approves it going to competative.
 
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