India-China 2020 Border conflict

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Many renditions of citizen right existed since the beginning of human civilisation, America just had the most modern rendition which for the most part is same today.

Sir ji what about, Vaishali and shakya clan .
Can it be a oligarchy or a republic?

 

[nick_indian]

Interesting. where did they get the idea from? concept must have existed some where.
whether we notice it or not, there is always continuity in history.

Magna Carta, it all started in Britain in the middle ages. At least Magna Carta was the first time human rights and related laws were actually codified. The concept itself might have existed in various places before that.

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Magna Carta, it all started in Britain in the middle ages.

Then what was Roman Senate?
I suppose that Oliver Cromwell got the idea from Roman senate system .

 

[nick_indian]

Then what was Roman Senate?

I revised my post. Read again please.

 

[tarunraju]

Trump reiterates "China will pay for COVID."

 

[fire starter]

 

[fire starter]

scamgress at work they want India to remain weak

 

[Dessert Storm]

Aircraft Carrier movements

 

[Wisemarko]

To stop a Chinese invasion, Taiwan needs a stronger army. Youth lacks patriotism to defend against China

Taiwan Army is a hollow shell: US analysts

TAIPEI, Taiwan —
If Taiwan is to fend off a Chinese invasion, it will need reluctant recruits like Roger Lin to summon the patriotism that inspired older generations but these days doesn’t burn as passionately in the young.

The 21-year-old French-language major regards his upcoming mandatory four-month military service as an unnecessary burden, even as complaints persist that such stints are too short to protect the island compared with the two to three years that previous generations served.

Weeks of flaring tensions between China and Taiwan, which has been buzzed by dozens of Chinese warplanes in a disquieting show of force, have not persuaded Lin to change his mind. If China and its much larger military decides to invade, the island’s devastation would be a fait accompli, he said, even with the outside chance the United States would come to Taiwan’s defense.

“The faster those four months pass, the better. It’s a waste of time,” Lin, swiping at his phone at a cafe on the campus of National Chengchi University in Taipei, said of his military service. “I don’t think the U.S. government will help us anyway. Whether they do or not, for us ordinary people, the outcome will be the same.”

Lin’s fatalism and indifference are somewhat expected among the young. But they come at a perilous moment. Fraught relations between Washington and Beijing are, more so than at any other volatile point, raising the possibility of war in Taiwan, a self-governed democratic island of 24 million that is roughly the size of Maryland. China has regarded Taiwan as a breakaway province since the end of the Chinese civil war in 1949.

The stakes for Washington are high. Losing a democratic Taiwan to China would probably signal the end of American power in the Pacific, freeing China’s military to project its strength in the region and beyond to the detriment of U.S. allies such as Japan and South Korea.

Led by an increasingly nationalistic Xi Jinping, China has in recent weeks flown military sorties deeper into Taiwanese airspace and beefed-up military exercises aimed at invading the disputed territory. The best hope for preventing a conflict that would probably draw in the U.S. is Taiwan’s willingness and ability to deter China’s aggression, experts said.

Protesters gather Thursday near the Chinese Consulate in Los Angeles during a global day of action called by “Resist China.”
(Frederic J. Brown / AFP/Getty Images)
But the Taiwanese government has struggled to instill the same sense of urgency found in countries with national service requirements such as South Korea, Israel and even Singapore, which faces no immediate threats. A recent pollsuggested the Taiwanese public was split on their willingness to repel an invasion even as the island remains overwhelmingly in favor of keeping free of China.

Taiwan’s active-duty military has shrunk to 165,000 from 275,000 three years ago. The Chinese People’s Liberation Army numbers 2 million.

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Under public pressure to move to an all-volunteer army, Taiwan began phasing-out conscription in 2013. Better pay, housing and college scholarships offered by the armed services haven’t been enough to attract Taiwan’s youth, a shrinking population on a progressive island where negative attitudes toward the military have been shaped by its past under martial law.

Taiwanese soldiers pause during a Jan. 15 military exercise in Kaohsiung, Taiwan. The island’s active-duty military has shrunk to 165,000 from 275,000 three years ago. The Chinese People’s Liberation Army numbers 2 million.
(Chiang Ying-ying / Associated Press)
“Taiwan doesn’t have that culture where you can go out in the street wearing your fatigues with pride,” said Huang Chung-ting, an assistant research fellow at the Institute for National Defense and Security Research in Taipei, the capital. “Soldiers leave as soon as they’ve completed national service. That’s a big problem. A lot of people think a good man doesn’t become a soldier.”

Lin Chen-feng, a 30-year-old salesman at an education start-up in Taipei, said he discounted the prospect of a military career after his national service.

“My friends and I didn’t consider the army a good choice because we felt like we would lose ambition and not be able to fit into the real world,” he said. “It’s shameful now, but we laughed at people who signed a deal to continue.”

That’s enraged some of the territory’s veterans who accuse the young generation of blissful ignorance in a time of existential threat.

“The young only like to criticize China with their keyboards, but won’t join the army to show their determination,” said respected analyst James Huang, 47, a retired lieutenant colonel who served in the infantry. “After a missile attack or bombing by the PLA, do they think they can still use the internet?

“People in Taiwan today are not prepared for war,” he added.

To stop a Chinese invasion, Taiwan needs a stronger army

A stronger army is needed to deter a wider conflict that could entangle the U.S. at a time when calls are growing in Washington to defend the island.

www.latimes.com

 

[Peter]

Then what was Roman Senate?
I suppose that Oliver Cromwell got the idea from Roman senate system .

The concept of human rights existed in several civilizations of antiquity. As man progressed from a nomadic to a pastoral life and societies began to develop the concept of human rights too became more complex and codified.

The ancient Sumerians, Egyptians, Vedic and Buddhist polities of India all had some form of protection for the common man. In fact most of the religions(Abrahamic or Dharmic) had mantras, shlokas, preaching, commandments to promote and protect the right of its adherents. In Ramayana the triumph of good against evil is nothing but a reaffirmation of the rights of a law abiding citizen of Ram rajya.

As for the human rights in a codified or written form, the Babylonians and Sumerians were the first civilizations to do so in the form of tabulated laws as per recorded history.(Google code of Hammurabi .IVC may also have done it but its script is not yet deciphered) Also ancient Greek city states too developed a system of laws and rights and they had influential philosophers who greatly propagated the concept of rights for each man, strong or weak. The Romans took on most of these ideas from the Greeks and developed most of their laws around them.

Coming to Magna Carta it was not as big a deal as most Anglophiles make it out to be. The Magna Carta was created as a result of the Baron`s War. The French Normans had conquered and subjugated the native Anglo Saxons and disregarded the rights of the native Anglo Saxon populace. The king reigned supreme and ruled with absolute impunity and even curtailed the rights of his Dukes and Barons. So when the lower nobility rebelled against the king they implemented certain number of safeguards for them. It did not make England a country where a peasant/serf was equal to the king. It did give certain rights to the peasantry but most of the safeguards were for the Barons. True human rights was only promoted after the English civil war and execution of their king under Oliver Cromwell. Even then there was an ossified class system in England.

It was the American and French revolution that actually brought about the modern concept of human rights where even a pauper is equal to the richest man of the land. The American constitution, the French Declaration of Rights of Man and the Napoleonic Code were the flag bearers for the rights of man. Most of the rights were inspired from the works of philosophers like Rousseau, Locke and Voltaire. Even in India where we follow the English system of law(common law as opposed to civil law) the Constitution owes much to the Americans and French. The Magna Carta is hyped up simply because it was the first codified document of the common law. However the Magna Carta pales in comparison to both the American and French concept of human rights.

 

[cereal killer]

Trump reiterates "China will pay for COVID."

Kuch nhi hona is Santre se they were shitt** to ban a app ffs. There are more chances of India banging China rather than US

 

[Peter]

Kuch nhi hona is Santre se they were shitt** to ban a app ffs. There are more chances of India banging China rather than US

Trump has hurt China more than any other US prez. Look up US China trade war. China is so desperate that it has put billions on Biden. Trump is the greatest nemesis of China and the Chinese know it very well. If Trump losses and Biden wins(due to voter fraud and mail in ballots) it would be the end of US world order and the beginning of the Chinese hegemony.

China–United States trade war - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Dessert Storm]

Trump has hurt China more than any other US prez. Look up US China trade war. China is so desperate that it has put billions on Biden. Trump is the greatest nemesis of China and the Chinese know it very well. If Trump losses and Biden wins(due to voter fraud and mail in ballots) it would be the end of US world order and the beginning of the Chinese hegemony.

China–United States trade war - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Trump ain't losing

 

[Cheran]

Happy MEA Babooze day:-

 

[ninja hattori]

Guys do u think India is permanently decoupling from cyna economically for good or it's just temporary just to deter them?

And what do u make of India's statements during QUAD meet i.e. no mention of CCP or even Cyna?

Are we still following that shitty appeasement policy or is it just to make time pass till US elections??

No one gets away backstabbing modi. Modi was the one way before as pm who toured China as cm of Gujarat for his state growth. He doesn't spare back stabbing. It's closed for cyna once and for all.

 

[Dessert Storm]

IA ammunition lying in Russian warehouses, waiting to be picked up since Feb 2020. What's going on.....have we overstocked???

Amid face-off with China, Army ammo worth $190 mn languishes in Russia

Even as the Indian Army faces the prospect of armed hostilities with China’s military, eleven batches of urgently needed Russian ammunition, contracted by the Indian Army for over US $190 million, have been lying in warehouses in Russia since February, awaiting shipment to India. Indian...

www.defencenews.in

 

[ninja hattori]

The concept of human rights existed in several civilizations of antiquity. As man progressed from a nomadic to a pastoral life and societies began to develop the concept of human rights too became more complex and codified.

The ancient Sumerians, Egyptians, Vedic and Buddhist polities of India all had some form of protection for the common man. In fact most of the religions(Abrahamic or Dharmic) had mantras, shlokas, preaching, commandments to promote and protect the right of its adherents. In Ramayana the triumph of good against evil is nothing but a reaffirmation of the rights of a law abiding citizen of Ram rajya.

As for the human rights in a codified or written form, the Babylonians and Sumerians were the first civilizations to do so in the form of tabulated laws as per recorded history.(Google code of Hammurabi .IVC may also have done it but its script is not yet deciphered) Also ancient Greek city states too developed a system of laws and rights and they had influential philosophers who greatly propagated the concept of rights for each man, strong or weak. The Romans took on most of these ideas from the Greeks and developed most of their laws around them.

Coming to Magna Carta it was not as big a deal as most Anglophiles make it out to be. The Magna Carta was created as a result of the Baron`s War. The French Normans had conquered and subjugated the native Anglo Saxons and disregarded the rights of the native Anglo Saxon populace. The king reigned supreme and ruled with absolute impunity and even curtailed the rights of his Dukes and Barons. So when the lower nobility rebelled against the king they implemented certain number of safeguards for them. It did not make England a country where a peasant/serf was equal to the king. It did give certain rights to the peasantry but most of the safeguards were for the Barons. True human rights was only promoted after the English civil war and execution of their king under Oliver Cromwell. Even then there was an ossified class system in England.

It was the American and French revolution that actually brought about the modern concept of human rights where even a pauper is equal to the richest man of the land. The American constitution, the French Declaration of Rights of Man and the Napoleonic Code were the flag bearers for the rights of man. Most of the rights were inspired from the works of philosophers like Rousseau, Locke and Voltaire. Even in India where we follow the English system of law(common law as opposed to civil law) the Constitution owes much to the Americans and French. The Magna Carta is hyped up simply because it was the first codified document of the common law. However the Magna Carta pales in comparison to both the American and French concept of human rights.

The Buddha surmon is itself human rights.

The jaina surmon is itself a human right.

Even geeta has human right.

 

[ninja hattori]

Kuch nhi hona is Santre se they were shitt** to ban a app ffs. There are more chances of India banging China rather than US

There is more thing to what meets our eyes.

Background me bahut kuch chal raha hai. Itne missile tests karne par abhi tak humare piche western media pad jana tha. Us congress would had slapped or asked to sanction us. Nothing sort of happening. There is a gang bang plan. Wait and watch. Over all picture is somewhere else. GT commenting on every india event is like " hum keh rahe kuch nahi hoga. Par fatti bhi utni hi padi hai chunniyo ki".

 

[Dessert Storm]

The Buddha surmon is itself human rights.

The jaina surmon is itself a human right.

Even geeta has human right.

Yeah. We have one single term for all that. "Dharma". If everybody performs their duties, nobody would need to fight for rights.

 

[Dessert Storm]

Shutting out the Chinese-Modified.
"India will no longer buy black box units and will instead participate through the entire development process so that it has the option to go for a different partner in case of any technology denial. Foreign companies participating in the Indian core sector will not be allowed to mask their origins and will have to go for full disclosure in case of any suspicion,” said a senior government official involved in the move.

PLA at its doors, India looks at new security rule to punch Chinese firms

Indian national security planners are mulling over a security architecture that weeds out inimical countries from participating in core sectors such as power, telecommunications and roads by verifying origins of equipment imported into the country and testing its trustworthiness, people familiar...

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