India-China 2020 Border conflict

[Cheran]

Hopefully, we changed that when IA occupied 39 heights, at least for the time being.

 

[mokoman]

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Hopefully, we changed that when IA occupied 39 heights, at least for the time being.

Seeing as we have agreed to no more aggression and disengagement , If this assessment is true ? what are our options ?

 

[anand108]

Superpower = big weapons= real life testing grounds = big research = Big money = big minds = big education economy.

And now the cycle goes on. Us needs wars to maintain its weapon sales.

Great innovations happened in US before their superpower status.
It was American freedom struggle that talked about fundamental rights of common citizen.
Before that, this concept didn't exist in western thought.

US would have same status as that of Britain today. An erstwhile superpower limping around.

 

[hit&run]

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Hopefully, we changed that when IA occupied 39 heights, at least for the time being.

Opinion makers in India can not come out of their defeatist grooming. Looking at the record of Indian army which these opinion-makers rarely mention; probably they are not paid for it or have no brains to comprehend.

IA has outshined all the adversaries by achieving its military objectives, stay true to the Political will of the nation even enduring heavy toll at times. It has earned praise from its counterparts on UN peace keeping missions for being most brave and audacious fighting unit.

Fighting Pakistan sponsored terrorism and operating under nuclear threat from two immediate neighbors anyone lecturing it on fatigue and getting unsettled because some sissy cannon fodder is pushed on our borders is not worth taking any cognizance.

 

[ezsasa]

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Hopefully, we changed that when IA occupied 39 heights, at least for the time being.

what’s new!!! Earlier Pakistan used to do this, now CCP is doing it.

End Result will be the same.

 

[Shashank Nayak]

Seeing as we have agreed to no more aggression and disengagement , If this assessment is true ? what are our options ?

Stick it to China.. let more PLA morons get their faces all sunburnt.. and if the opportunity provides itself.. seize more territory in winter..

 

[LDev]

I think it's cheaper to negotiate with Pentagon for sale of a handful second-hand USAF C-17s than to lobby with Boeing for a new production run. The Americans have 220 in their inventory.

Unlikely, as the USAF itself regrets not getting more and is working towards a solution of how to address the airlift shortfall in the years ahead including leasing options from private players. That will be the interim solution until the next generation airlifter a successor to the C-17 is produced probably at least 10 years away. The slow pace of Indian decision making killed the 6 options that India had when it signed the original C-17 deal. Those 6 options which if converted into actual orders would have proved invaluable now, specially if the LAC becomes hot during the winter months when road connectivity to Ladakh is poor.

 

[Shashank Nayak]

Great innovations happened in US before their superpower status.
It was American freedom struggle that talked about fundamental rights of common citizen.
Before that, this concept didn't exist in western thought.

US would have same status as that of Britain today. An erstwhile superpower limping around.

It all started in britain with Magna Carta 800 years ago.. and the role of the individual in a nation's destiny changed, with the french revolution leading to the gradual decline of monarchy.. every empire declines.. Be it Britain, Soviets or America.. And great innovation happened in Nazi Germany too.

 

[utubekhiladi]

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Hopefully, we changed that when IA occupied 39 heights, at least for the time being.

if that was their fool proof plan, then let me tell you.. it backfired and failed miserably. they made 3rd largest army, 4th largest airforce and 5th largest navy as their enemy. india is now on hyberspeed to complete all defence acquisition from missiles to tanks etc. quad was formed because of this and more military's alliance will be formed. world opinion turned negative and chinese are getting kicked everywhere. they lost billions of dollars from tik tok, hauewi 5g etc. more trade restrictions are awaited and they lost free access to largest young market in the world.

 

[Nationalist Manasvi Papa]

Guys do u think India is permanently decoupling from cyna economically for good or it's just temporary just to deter them?

And what do u make of India's statements during QUAD meet i.e. no mention of CCP or even Cyna?

Are we still following that shitty appeasement policy or is it just to make time pass till US elections??

 

[tarunraju]

Guys do u think India is permanently decoupling from cyna economically for good or it's just temporary just to deter them?

Maybe not "permanent," but certainly "long term." China has turned the clocks back to 1962 on India-China relations. Unlike 1962, India not only distrusts China, but is also capable of taking geopolitical and strategic action against China, besides on-ground tactics. There must be clear objectives behind what India is saying (and more importantly, what it is not saying) in the geopolitical stage. China will pay the real price of antagonizing India in the coming decade, when it tries to grab a piece of post-COVID Asia.

Trump winning the elections is a foregone conclusion. What's also a foregone conclusion is him making China pay for COVID.

 

[Cheran]

Guys do u think India is permanently decoupling from cyna economically for good or it's just temporary just to deter them?

//The ball has been set in motion. As mentioned before even constituents which were moderate are now hardline wrt to China. Entire public is against their policies. So this will reflect in the Govt. road map

And what do u make of India's statements during QUAD meet i.e. no mention of CCP or even Cyna?

//Quad is a collective that aims to create a bloc that follows international laws etc. not per se against anyone.
*wink * wink

Are we still following that shitty appeasement policy or is it just to make time pass till US elections??

//We could have been more hardline in saying thank you to Taiwan PM but overall things are moving in a direction that will not be to the likening of CCP.

 

[Spindrift]

Great innovations happened in US before their superpower status.
It was American freedom struggle that talked about fundamental rights of common citizen.
Before that, this concept didn't exist in western thought.

US would have same status as that of Britain today. An erstwhile superpower limping around.

Well, actually it did, the US bill of rights (fundamental rights\human rights) is derived from the Magna Carta and the Magna Carta was written in 1215.

 

[ezsasa]

Great innovations happened in US before their superpower status.
It was American freedom struggle that talked about fundamental rights of common citizen.
Before that, this concept didn't exist in western thought.

US would have same status as that of Britain today. An erstwhile superpower limping around.

Interesting. where did they get the idea from? concept must have existed some where.
whether we notice it or not, there is always continuity in history.

 

[AZTEC]

A must watch for everyone.

 

[Suryavanshi]

Interesting. where did they get the idea from? concept must have existed some where.
whether we notice it or not, there is always continuity in history.

Citizen rights were emphasised for the first time during American revolution and maybe French revolution.
Europe for the most part before 1700 were heavy on King queen, nobility and peasant.

 

[Deadtrap]

 

[AZTEC]

Citizen rights were emphasised for the first time during American revolution and maybe French revolution.
Europe for the most part before 1700 were heavy on King queen, nobility and peasant.

AFAIK, citizen rights were first introduced in ancient Athens, Greece.

 

[Suryavanshi]

AFAIK, citizen rights were first introduced in ancient Athens, Greece.

Many renditions of citizen right existed since the beginning of human civilisation, America just had the most modern rendition which for the most part is same today.

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

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