India-China 2020 Border conflict

[scatterStorm]

Which AEWACS they have? I don't count their reverse engineered AWACS which porks also don't use as a front line. Last reported they were begging Israel for phalcon AWACS.
Do they have any AWACS matching our Phalcon?

They have 5 types of awacs in there fleet, recent one beingbthe E2D Hawkeye based. KJ2000 would be seen as operational deployment at hotan, nagari and the third one.

 

[Bhadra]

Expecting a Brahmin killing Dalit soldier story by Paki abduls any moment now.

Why Paki abdul.... Our own Media and Bollywood has been making such stupid movies backhome like Shorya. I saw one serial produced by Zee Films (Zee Films of all) having produced a serail in which officers of SF battalion are sodomizing each other and a Thakur CO kills a Dalit officer because he falls in love with his daughter...
The SF battalion and their premises in Jodhpur are freely used or portrayed...

There is Ekta Kapoor who is shown as some colonel's wife going nymphomaniac with her pussy...
Why go to Pakistan when it can be made in India and the heroine will do casting couch too..

 

[garg_bharat]

Your reading of Porki amplification about the idea of Kargil on karakoram could be true but man they had almost done it...
They reached the confluence of Galwan and Shyok...
They reached Y junction...
They had intruded almost three km at Hot Spring...
Do not forget about our 70 injured at Finger 4...
They had gathered strength in Moldo.

By deployment and disposition, by the sequence of events, by force level... That plan is workable ...

The only thing not explainable is that what stopped them.... ??
Not ITBP....
Not 3 Div or 14 Corps who had no strength to do so.. let us not fool ourselves,,,
What stopped 155mm Guns and SP How from booming and Tanks and Mechanised forces rolling into Chusul...
They were certainly not waiting for the Indian Army to come there and occupy those heights so that during Swargarohan they do not fall one by one in Kedarkahnd..

The PLA has shown our MEA their worth as also shown our National Security managers a mirror called ITBP... I am sure Mr Dobhal understands it that parochial bureaucratic cadre interests do not surpass national interests,,, for future if this ITBP business is not sorted out we are in for a big trouble..

What is stopping them could be Trump. Trump is obviously not a China stooge. Or it could be something else. The Himalaya specially Kailas range is mysterious.

 

[Suhaldev]

Ya'll Nibbiars ye dar acha hai the Melcchas have rattled to death that the CCP not recognized their causalities and given Martyrdom to them. The Melcchas are criticizing their CCP calling it unfair. Pilots who have died due to aircraft crashes get recognition in China, as did medical personnel who died combating COVID-19. But the PLA are expandable no one cares about them.

Gobar times ki mast sulgi hai aaj ke statement ke baad

India lied. The number of Chinese soldiers who sacrificed during the border conflict was far less than the number of India's. 20 Indian soldiers died, many of whom were wounded and frozen to death as they could not get medical treatment.

 

[Haldilal]

Ya'll Nibbiars GT says PLA casualities were far less than Indian casualities in Galwan clashes. If its so, ehy has PLA refrained from publically revealing the exact nos? Why PLA has not even acknowledged martyrdoms of their Soldiers? Truth is, its more than 40 including a CO.

Frontal Assault.

My answer to the Frontal Assault : because they are expandable and are of little importance to the CCP in their grand plan of the World dominance.

 

[scatterStorm]

So you brought PAF? If porks gets involved Indian Navy will repeat 10X of 71 karachi.
Even IAF will not be deploying lone fighter full package will be deployed and damn sure the package will be huge with Mig29 Su30 MKI Mig21 Jaguars as our bases are nearer to contested air space than PLA

It's reasonable to bring PAF to picture, they might not enter the frame of our impending war, but they will provide recon to there entire operating forces. There military general now have acces to there HQ.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Gobar times ki mast sulgi hai aaj ke statement ke baad

India lied. The number of Chinese soldiers who sacrificed during the border conflict was far less than the number of India's. 20 Indian soldiers died, many of whom were wounded and frozen to death as they could not get medical treatment.

Not Ex-PLA, Didn’t Say 100 Chinese Troops Died: Jianli Yang

Fact Check on 100 Chinese Soldiers Died in Galwan Valley: India-China Border Faceoff BJP leader Kapil Mishra shared a report on Twitter which claimed that more than 100 Chinese soldiers were killed in Galwan Valley clashes.

www.thequint.com

their own people saying more than 100 pla dead

The report goes on to claim that “Jianli Yang, a former Chinese military official and a son of a leader in the Chinese communist party, accepted that ‘More than 100 Chinese soldiers were killed in the dreadful conflict between Indian and Chinese soldiers.”

 

[ataru09]

LAC row: Hope China won’t make further attempts to unilaterally change status quo, says MEA

isn't me or that statement actually sound like surrender and acceptance of new LAC?

LAC row: Hope China won’t make further attempts to unilaterally change status quo, says MEA

The Chinese side should sincerely work with the Indian side for complete disengagement at the earliest from all friction areas including Pangong lake," MEA spokesperson Anurag Srivastava said at the weekly briefing.

indianexpress.com

Pussies. Even the way they phrase the sentence is so beta. "Hope China won't make further attempts...." Vs "China should not make further attempts..."

"Chinese side should sincerely work with Indian side to compete disengagement" vs "Chinese side should complete disengagement"

 

[Flying Dagger]

In the context of role being discussed here, do compare it's survivability with that of a chopper.

Then you need something armoured and made specifically for the purpose like A10 or Su 25.

 

[scatterStorm]

PAALF is their weakest chip. Bombers operate neither in Air Dominance nor Air Superiority but Air Supremacy theater. The kind of air defence grid India has installed Chinese Bombers will only fly on suicide missions.

They don't have to fly near, if they claim capability of there ALCM is 1500km they would simply fly from hotan, go to a durable altitude, launch and scoot away.

 

[Suhaldev]

A new strategy, combining diplomatic and military means, is needed to counter Beijing

What China wants is Indian acceptance of Beijing’s benign superiority, and that is a purely Chinese trait, not to be confused with the known rules of international diplomacy.

indianexpress.com

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

Pak Army will never accept LoC turning into IB. Pak army will lose its relevance doing so and huge budget they grab will be lost. Imrand wants to show that he included Kashmir as new province to convince Pak jahil awam also they can ceed GB to china for some dollars

You can't declare that in a day. Same goes for India. If you declare loc as border, no amount of Modi Bhakthi could bring him into power for the next 2 decades. The ground base for loc into permanent borders is being laid right now. I doubted it initially but now IKs action proves it. But no country will accept it officially till a good part of next 2-3 decades. I just need to cut of Pak from China by occupying uninhabited areas in GB. I don't need or expect anything else. We can't control the hostile population, especially not a democratic country like India.

 

[ataru09]

Yeah that's great, but where's our promised underwater volcano eruption??

Petition to ban echelon four for the underwater volcano nonsense. Makes this thread look like a joke thread.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

Nah this is basically their response to our removal of Article 370. Also, an admission that they now don't see any hope of getting Kashmir.

See my post 4272. Thanks.

 

[Flying Dagger]

Sorry I will not share that pity with you. One nation one law, just yesterday someone was arguing about border areas/states should not be open to other people from India....do we have one nation or many? WTF is this thinking? If thats how it is then expect J&K, Kerala and all else as exceptions and soon you will have many capitals.

I am not going to argue the difference between brave and others, when certain lines are crossed one has to be of mindset to die than live. Someone has the tag here "DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR". You can justify your arguments and fill in the blanks. There are fighters and then there are other people....

Well if it means banning Muzzies from border areas I am all for it. They are targeting border region specially base of IA or BSF in Jammu region and flooding it like cockroaches.

 

[Bhadra]

Do they have to invoke a military confrontation for that ?
Even if there were some takers for that line earlier, Chinese can forget about it now..
Unless you intend to say that the Chinese are fool enough to dictate 1959 line under coercion...

Moreover, why should they do it when they are almost sitting on that line..

 

[Sanglamorre]

We have beaten them into pulp that now they have pressurised 11-Ping to honour their dead soldiers publically.

The feeling of being compared with coward Pakistanis is hurting their conscience.

Don't discount CCP skulduggery and MEA/Babu treason yet.

This might be part of deal by IAS so that Chinese declare like 5 dead and announce that they've buried the hatchet so peace process can continue.

babus and Chinese hold hands and continue betraying India.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

They don't have to fly near, if they claim capability of there ALCM is 1500km they would simply fly from hotan, go to a durable altitude, launch and scoot away.

They have no faith in their ALCM?

 

[AmoghaVarsha]

16 chinese bodies were handed back by India at Galwan.

3 separate brawls, 'outsider' Chinese troops & more: Most detailed account of the brutal June 15 Galwan battle

Plenty has been written so far about the clash between Indian and Chinese troops in Ladakh's Galwan Valley. But India Today brings you the most detailed account of the brutal June 15 Galwan battle.

www.indiatoday.in

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Do they have to invoke a military confrontation for that ?
Even if there were some takers for that line earlier, Chinese can forget about it now..
Unless you intend to say that the Chinese are fool enough to dictate 1959 line under coercion...

Moreover, why should they do it when they are almost sitting on that line..

looks like both sides looking to do a face saving deescalation?