IAF MiG-21 shoots down Pakistani F-16

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Pakistan knew Female ground controller was in touch with Abhinandan through Radio intercepts and released the news in June.

" Before he could get his bearings right, Abhinandan’s MiG-21 was hit by an AIM-120C missile launched from an F-16 flown by Wg Cdr Noman Ali Khan, the Officer Commanding of No 29 ‘Aggressor’ Squadron, and also the overall mission leader. Radio monitoring revealed that Abhinandan was being frantically warned by his ground control about the danger he was getting into. “Alpha One, flow cold. Nandu, if you hear me, flow cold,” is how a desperate female controller called the unresponsive pilot in high-pitched screams

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Indians confirmed in a way



Wait for the Radio intercepts to be released to show who is a liar.
No one trusts what Pakistanis says here. You people can lie with hand on your incomprehensible book called Koran.
 

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I feel really sad for so many unknown pakistani soldiers and pilots who were denied proper acknowledgement and honor for dying for pakistan!

What a pathetic and shameful country is pakistan which denies it's people's matrydom and refuse to take their dead back home!
 

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Abhinandan shooting down f-16 is a gospel truth ? Whatever you said in your post, applies equally to you guys as well who are participating in perpetuating the lie of Mig-21 killed F-16
See for u it can be a jar filled of dollies.. it's extraneous... Compare PAF/ DG ISPR claims to IAF's claims

From the starting IAF have maintained one line ...i.e one mig21 Down with pilot missing in action.. nd one F-16 shot down.. we provided radar imagery to substantiate our claims.. in era of BVR missiles only radar imagery can provide a bonafide claim of kills... See no deviations no ugly lies.. no change of goalposts.. IAF even didn't hide fatricide loss of mi-17.. with court of inquiry in progress... So IAF credibility is really high here....

Now for PAF/DG ISPR... these people kept on pilling lies after lies.. to hide their loss... First they claimed no F-16 being used ... nd said JF17 shot down mig21... Lolx.. turned out to be an shambolic lie...

Lied about two pilots.. with one pilot in CMH nd other being in area.. lolx another fugly lie..

Claimed kill of su30mki.. no radar imagery presented.. even awarded lower tamgha to the pilot who claimed shooting down su30mki.. instead awarded higher gallantry award to noman who shot a 70s relic mig-21... Another embarrassingly shambolic lie... See u people hv no credibility.. ur top echolens.. i.e a spokesman of a professional army kept blabbering lies after lies... To hide their embrassing loss of f-16.. have some shame.
 

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Pak Army & waving white flags / deserting - Go hand in hand



Look at the first image top left - 50m Salwar Run by PA [emoji241]

When tasked to fight, PA like the pussy they are, instead takes out protest march against Article 370 [emoji14][emoji28][emoji23][emoji1787]


 
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Interestingly.. after dog fight..pakistan closed internet connection in POK for 15 days to prevent any leakage of images or videos of downed F-16 in net.. remember even pics of downed mig21 came from their army Twitter handles .. not from any locals.. nd also clips of abhi scuffle with locals came only after 15 days of internet clamp down...

Clearly planned to hide their loss of f-16..
We have clear proof of downed F-16 as proved by radar imagery.. rest assured.. few years later we all will know the names of that ill fated f-16 which is living tale of Abhi's bravery... Such brave this man is.. he chased PAF most deadly aircraft i.e f-16.. with himself being in a 70s relic mig-21... Went into enemy territory... Took a f-16 down.. didn't panicked when shot down nd surrounded by hords of enemies.. met eyeball for an eyeball.. after bloodying their nose..
This is what a professional soldier should be like.. we are lucky to have such brave soul among us.. men behind machine is for real!!!
 

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Interestingly.. after dog fight..pakistan closed internet connection in POK for 15 days to prevent any leakage of images or videos of downed F-16 in net.. remember even pics of downed mig21 came from their army Twitter handles .. not from any locals.. nd also clips of abhi scuffle with locals came only after 15 days of internet clamp down...

Clearly planned to hide their loss of f-16..
We have clear proof of downed F-16 as proved by radar imagery.. rest assured.. few years later we all will know the names of that ill fated f-16 which is living tale of Abhi's bravery... Such brave this man is.. he chased PAF most deadly aircraft i.e f-16.. with himself being in a 70s relic mig-21... Went into enemy territory... Took a f-16 down.. didn't panicked when shot down nd surrounded by hords of enemies.. met eyeball for an eyeball.. after bloodying their nose..
This is what a professional soldier should be like.. we are lucky to have such brave soul among us.. men behind machine is for real!!!
Napaki Airspace closed by the yellow salwars for how long again... 5 months.

Only for a few trees uprooted ? [emoji41][emoji95][emoji95][emoji95]
 

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Napaki Airspace closed by the yellow salwars for how long again... 5 months.

Only for a few trees uprooted ? [emoji41][emoji95][emoji95][emoji95]
Sign of deceit and a lie is 'overdoing'. (Mahabharata)

India with its initial official statements has not bothered to do anything.

The induction of wing Commander Abhinandan Varhaman has been done following normal set of procedures and like him, many of our old Pilots who have ejected and got hit during the war have served the IAF afterwards.

Jihadi medieval mentality is still not synched with conventions of modern-day warfare.

They think dowed and detained Pilots are defeated, war trophies and can be negotiated.

They have now made the life of all their soldier very difficult if caught beyond enemy lines. (I hope India forces will tone down their professionalism bit down).

From Pakistani ministers and ordinary slum dweller, they have abused and trolled our Pilot with worst kind of adjectives.

These snakes will not be shown mercy and very few links I have are telling me that the carnage India will unleash is going to beat anything that has happened so far.
 

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Porki released one AV and that too edited. When Jahil touches anything it becomes garbage. A fake SU-30 MKI wing will keep them contained for few weeks before they start looking for another lie.

BTW I read a gem post by an American military professional. Most likely a Chinaman masquerading as American that they are not giving Pakistan latest F-16 because then India will have no option but to nuke them. So we are avoiding an imminent nuclear attack on Pakistan by not giving the latest F-16. :pound::pound:
 
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Asif ghafoor explained in his Press conference that 2 Pilots report was due to fog of war,



2 pilots is due to Ghafoor being a moron and the Pakistani military being incompetent. Most normal professional militaries would say nothing to the media until the facts are in.




Just like Indians were initially claiming All the pilots and jets are accounted for on the day of 27 FEB and no aircraft was shot down


I believe the Indian side from day one acknowledged losing an aircraft. Pakistan on the other hand has a long history of blatant denial as well as countless fake shoot downs that have been disproven and even when disproven the Pakistanis don’t care and continue sticking to the same fairytales.



How A mi-17 was shot down by your own due to fog of war



The Mi-17 was hit by friendly fire because the IFF was off. This happens on occasion to the best militaries in the world. This is completely different from making moronic claims about shooting down phantom aircraft. The Indian side also did a criminal investigation into the matter instead of acting like bafoons on social media.




So Asif ghafoor reporting 2 pilots was a mistake due to fog of war too.


Was it also not him that claimed Lockheed was suing India and that the AMRAAM missile was fake and no F-16s were used? Was it not him that claimed an SU-30 was shot down? All completely false. Not fog of war but cheap propaganda.




The missile engine didn't leave the hardpoint. Why the engine section is still attached with hardpoint if it is still connected with hardpoint ?


There was only one missile attaches to the pylon in the wreckage. Pakistan could have rearranged, mixes and matched and even re-manufactured parts of the missile. That presentation means little especially when Pakistan got caught lying repeatedly about the event of the encounter that day.




Replace SU-30 wreckage questions and tell us where is F-16 wreckage ? Proof ?



I’m actually one of the few on here that do not believe there is enough evidence of an F-16 shoot down. Pakistan would certainly hid it the best they could anyways based on previous wars anyways. The point is the Pakistani side is much less believable and funnier. A large aircraft such as an SU-30 does not vanish into thin air when there are 650 million cell phones in India and 1.3 billion people. Moreover, the MI-17 wreckage completely dispelled the ludicrous conspiracy perpetuated by Pakistan that India hid the wreckage. Which would be impossible anyways.
 

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You have been relying on sources for 350 terrorists killed. F-16 pilot lynched and what not. Bring out Actual proof then for your claims as well.

You know what is the actual proof looks like ? Like this



Pakistan Never missed it's intended target. H-4 actual bomb video feed till point of impact.

Then the proof of Abhinandan missile never left the hardpoint




Where is the Spice-2000 bomb video feed?

Where is the proof of F-16 wreckage and Lynch pilot info ?

What video feed? Pakistan pulled those images from google earth. Pakistan risked getting their aircraft shot down, pilots killed or captured as well as starting an all out war so they can apparently hit empty fields to prove the the Indians what? That they are incompetent?More likely that Pakistani aircraft abandoned the mission and the feed to the laser guided bombs were broken, thus they hit empty fields. Or continue believing the cartoon like stories from Pakistan that they missed on purpose which would make them sound like even bigger morons.
 
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It is an exploded piece of AMRAAM. What did it in exploded to. Care to share ? if R-73 was a direct hit then this AMRAAM exploded piece also shows it killed SU-30.


Many missiles self detonate, even if they would not they would impact the ground at up to Mach 3. You have no critical thinking skills and cheap propaganda. Did you actually expect a missile with heavy explosive warhead traveling at Mach 3 to be intact after hitting the earth or some structures on the ground? What grade did you finish in school?
 
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So, how do you explain the pic of another aircraft going down in Pok? And the radar images too?
That other aircraft video has been discussed ad infinitum. It's the Mig21 taken from another angle.
 

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There is no proof of Osama bin laden's death, moon landing or that you have a brain.

Otherwise, we have sufficient, elaborate proof given by the IAF such as the sudden disappearance of the f-16 radar track.

And enough proof of Napakis lying through their teeth with previous f-16 versus mig-23 incidents or the infamous "shot down 5 IAF jets in 30 seconds" claim.

Anyone with a (unprovable) brain would know who to believe.

Anyway napak or their sympathiser have far bigger defeats in the last 70 years and bigger problems with their country.... so if denying Balakot, or the surgical strikes, or the f-16 kill gives them some khushi, to reh lo khush.
After all, it won't be too long before the Indian military enters their territory and bitch slaps them again.

You must have been in hybernation in the last several years. Anyway, here are some materials to educate you:


And then


You see all these international media companies from Western to Middle Eastern, Asia, or Russoan are just looking for big news to investigate. But until now there's been no concrete evidence so far uncovered. No verified witnesses examined. The only ones insisting about this F16 saga are IAF officials (they're not without motive, they lost face) or ultranationalistic fanboys.

Just look at the laughable sometimes shocking news reports from Indian tvs passing off mig21 debris as F16 debris.
 
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You see all these international media companies from Western to Middle Eastern, Asia, or Russoan are just looking for big news to investigate. But until now there's been no concrete evidence so far uncovered. No verified witnesses examined. The only ones insisting about this F16 saga are IAF officials (they're not without motive, they lost face) or ultranationalistic fanboys.

Just look at the laughable sometimes shocking news reports from Indian tvs passing off mig21 debris as F16 debris.
Okayyy.. How did IAF lose face here? Care to explain.. Going 100km inside enemy territory and bombing the jihadis, taking battle to enemy airspace, shooting down the enemy's best jet.. I say it was complete air superiority estaished by IAF.
And if you say bcos Abhi was shot that's why IAF lost face then good for you. Be happy!
 

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Okayyy.. How did IAF lose face here? Care to explain.. Going 100km inside enemy territory and bombing the jihadis, taking battle to enemy airspace, shooting down the enemy's best jet.. I say it was complete air superiority estaished by IAF.
And if you say bcos Abhi was shot that's why IAF lost face then good for you. Be happy!
It lost a jet to poor Porkistan. Your air force leaders perhaps were punch drunk about the invinvibility of the IAF and MKI that it sleep walked its defenses against Porkistan. The lose of the Mig21 is a result of gungho and jingoistis and un professional airmanship. How can u attack an enemy without your wingman or without plan?

It would appear that the Pakistanis set up a trap.
 

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Sign of deceit and a lie is 'overdoing'. (Mahabharata)

India with its initial official statements has not bothered to do anything.

The induction of wing Commander Abhinandan Varhaman has been done following normal set of procedures and like him, many of our old Pilots who have ejected and got hit during the war have served the IAF afterwards.

Jihadi medieval mentality is still not synched with conventions of modern-day warfare.

They think dowed and detained Pilots are defeated, war trophies and can be negotiated.

They have now made the life of all their soldier very difficult if caught beyond enemy lines. (I hope India forces will tone down their professionalism bit down).

From Pakistani ministers and ordinary slum dweller, they have abused and trolled our Pilot with worst kind of adjectives.

These snakes will not be shown mercy and very few links I have are telling me that the carnage India will unleash is going to beat anything that has happened so far.
Napaki POW VIP list of 1971, who stayed in our jails for numerous years:

 

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I feel really sad for so many unknown pakistani soldiers and pilots who were denied proper acknowledgement and honor for dying for pakistan!

What a pathetic and shameful country is pakistan which denies it's people's matrydom and refuse to take their dead back home!
How does that impact their forces' morale I wonder?
 
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