IAF MiG-21 shoots down Pakistani F-16

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Where did I claim F-16 was not used??? Are you not paying enough attention ????? F-16 was used in Defensive posture. Deep from within Pakistani airspace. That's why USA brushed aside indian claims

Your radar images shows F_16 were near Mangla and deep inside Pakistani airspace doing CAPS and BARCAPS.

F-16 NEVER CROSSED THE BORDER AND NEVER TOOK PART IN THE BOMBING RAIDS. THESE ARE TWO DIFFERENT things. Bombing raides were conducted by JF-17 and MIRAGES.

F-16 were used to defend the strike package from within Pakistan airspace


Nobody crossed LOC.


PAF will release whatever the electronic signatures w.r.t. SU-30 in next iteration. Until then IAF must release proofs of their own claims of spice 2000 successful hits and R-73 killed F-16. Why IAF is not letting Abhinandan come on TV? You let that Female controller to give interview then why not abhinandan ?

Bring Abhinandan on tv, PAF will release the next iteration of proofs.
First answer these 3 questions:

1. Why did Gafoora lie about 3 pilots, then 2 and finally 1 pilot in custody ?

2. What happened to doosra pilot admitted to CMH ?

3. Why did Gafoora lie about first no F-16 used, then saying it does not matter if F-16 used, then etching F-16 in his d*ck memorial ?

We release proof as , when and if needed without compromising opsec.
 

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First answer these 3 questions:

1. Why did Gafoora lie about 3 pilots, then 2 and finally 1 pilot in custody ?

2. What happened to doosra pilot admitted to CMH ?

3. Why did Gafoora lie about first no F-16 used, then saying it does not matter if F-16 used, then etching F-16 in his d*ck memorial ?

We will release proof as , when and if needed.
1. Fog of war. he admitted that in his Press conference

2. He hasn't denied that claim. Time will tell about the veracity of the claim

3. GHafoor cleverly claimed F-16 didnot take part in WHOLE ACTION. The whole ACTION he was referring to was bombing runs conducted by Mirages and JF-17.


Abhinandan was hit by an AMRAAM

If IAF had proofs it would have had released by now. it's been what? 7 months ?
 

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So pakis still believe what gafoora says?? That their Junk Fighter 17 Blunder shot Su30MKI flown by some Israeli pilot, that too with a low quality chinese missile?

However, they don't believe their own dimmi PM and Gafoora that there were 3 pilots on the ground? Selective amnesia!

One of their two seater F16 pilot was lynched by mard-e-momeens and another one was hospitalized, hence only Abhinandan was returned (with a heavy heart) knowing very well he had shot paki F16.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&sou...aw28IOUNPQh0dbpFBB4MVsPz&ust=1568663235856992
 

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So pakis still believe what gafoora says?? That their Junk Fighter 17 Blunder shot Su30MKI flown by some Israeli pilot, that too with a low quality chinese missile?

However, they don't believe their own dimmi PM and Gafoora that there were 3 pilots on the ground? Selective amnesia!

One of their two seater F16 pilot was lynched by mard-e-momeens and another one was hospitalized, hence only Abhinandan was returned (with a heavy heart) knowing very well he had shot paki F16.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwifjOqIzNPkAhUcT48KHbJ1DI0QzPwBegQIARAC&url=https://theprint.in/defence/8-pieces-of-clinching-evidence-that-show-how-iafs-abhinandan-shot-down-a-pakistani-f-16/278752/&psig=AOvVaw28IOUNPQh0dbpFBB4MVsPz&ust=1568663235856992
Where is the proof of F-16 pilot getting lynched?

Where is the proof Pakistan officially claimed JF-17 shot down MKI ?


Indian claimed lot of things like Asif ghafoor. They never proved their claims as well. Why are you not letting Abhinandan come on tv and explain the whole SAGA of F-16 shoot down. Why IAF is so afraid of letting him speak to media ? Got something to hide ?
 

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1. Fog of war. he admitted that in his Press conference

2. He hasn't denied that claim. Time will tell about the veracity of the claim

3. GHafoor cleverly claimed F-16 didnot take part in WHOLE ACTION. The whole ACTION he was referring to was bombing runs conducted by Mirages and JF-17.


Abhinandan was hit by an AMRAAM

If IAF had proofs it would have had released by now. it's been what? 7 months ?
All 3 answers prove Gafoora and ISPR are not clever, rather Grade-A liars. So is you and your country. This is the reason no one believes you and your lies.

You think wars are fought in Twitter, NYT, BBC, TV shows etc. We think war is fought on the ground.

Ask any PA chap on the LOC the heat he is facing day-in and day-out. Cowards like your country do not officially disclose casualties on LOC so as to save morale.Oh, by the way, there is a nice thread on this forum about detailed PA casualties on LOC hidden by ISPR, make sure to go through that.

IAF has already released proofs.
It is not our job to convince you. Whether you get convinced or not, WE DO NOT GIVE A SHIT, understood?
 

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So here are we... Again... It's futile tho.. beating sense into a retarded paki from a nation which is built on lies nd deceit nd for their awam who smoke shit to attain nirvana!!!

Let me reiterate.. it's the paki side which lied from the starting.. they eventually walked into their lies by making frivolous claims.. let's look into the shambolic lies of pakis

1. Claimed nothing happened at balakot.. closed airspace for 2 months.. took 40 days to take journalist at the sight (interestingly dj gaffora on 26th feb said in press briefing that nothing happened in that madarsa nd due to bad weather can't take journalist to bombing site) lol.. so apparently it took 40 days for weather to clear.

2. No F-16 used ... lol Again lying straight through the teeth.. to hide their embrassing loss of f-16 nd pilot killed at the hand of a mig-21.. then again ultimately awarding kills (in parallel universe) to f-16.

3. Lies about 2 pilots nd doosra banda... One in CMH nd one in the area.. again a pathetic lie from an esteemed spokesman of a professional army.. shit got real..

4. PAF gallantry awards- now this is where it gets really shambolic for paki... So these sunshines claims kills of su30mki.. however they awarded higher gallantry award to noman who shot ABHI's mig-21 nd awarded a lower tamgha for the hassan who apparently shot mighty SU30 mki??? Lolx what's with this phooey logic.. in which world.. 70's relic mig-21 kill deserves higher gallantry award than to mighty SU30 mki the backbone of IAF.. there goes another asinine lie of pakis..

Now for IAF from starting to this point they have maintained a single line.. no shambolic lies .. no embrassing asinine logics .. no whataboutery... IAF claimed we hit balakot.. which we did.. no of terrorist killed is open for speculation.. IAF nvr painted their no..
F-16 shot down- abhinandan shot down PAF mighty f-16 with himself being shot down... Presented radar imagery to substantiate their claims.. again no lies.. in era of BVR where even IR missiles are fired at distance greater than a human eye can see.. KILLS are substantiated from radar imagery.. nd not by gun camera... IAF even didn't hide fatricide shoot down of mi-17 with court martial of responsible officers.

See for urself.. which side has more credibility.. one who kept lying thorough theor teeth umpteenth no of times.. to hide their sorry figure.. nd fool their already retarded awaam.. or the side who acted like a professional force without any jingoism nd lies bebayig around... The choice isn't onerous to fathom.. i rest my case.
 

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IF IAF is as truthful as they are claiming allow abhinandan to give out his version in open. Just to show they are not hiding something and it seems Abhinandan is not agreeing to perpetuate the lies of IAF hence they arent allowing him to come on media and talk with the them Whatever claims indians can make, reality on ground and how IAF is hiding Abhinandan from media to interview him shows. otherwise.
 

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Where is the proof of F-16 pilot getting lynched?

Where is the proof Pakistan officially claimed JF-17 shot down MKI ?


Indian claimed lot of things like Asif ghafoor. They never proved their claims as well. Why are you not letting Abhinandan come on tv and explain the whole SAGA of F-16 shoot down. Why IAF is so afraid of letting him speak to media ? Got something to hide ?
Your own PM and Gafoora confirmed that one of the three pilots were hospitalised due to injuries! Video evidence of your onw countrymen claimed a bearded pilot was lynched. You don't believe your own people, paki PM and above all gafoora?

Strange that you ask for proofs from us!

IAF gave enough proof in the form of radar / electronic signatures to prove how pakis lost their F16 shot down by Mig21 Bison, combine it with your pilot who got hospitalised as admitted by gafoora is enough proof that you lost F16. Recently, immi the dimmi by mistake admitted in a junkie tabloid called NYT that only a Mig21 was shot down by pakis, rest is clear that paki F16 was killed by Mig21!
 

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All 3 answers prove Gafoora and ISPR are not clever, rather Grade-A liars. So is you and your country. This is the reason no one believes you and your lies.

You think wars are fought in Twitter, NYT, BBC, TV shows etc. We think war is fought on the ground.

Ask any PA chap on the LOC the heat he is facing day-in and day-out. Cowards like your country do not officially disclose casualties on LOC so as to save morale.Oh, by the way, there is a nice thread on this forum about detailed PA casualties on LOC hidden by ISPR, make sure to go through that.

IAF has already released proofs.
It is not our job to convince you. Whether you get convinced or not, WE DO NOT GIVE A SHIT, understood?
Can you show me which country has taken Indian claims of F-16 shot down and Spice 2000 successful hits serious ?

IAF proofs are joke. Hence nobody took them serious. Ask any country and you will get your answer. While PAF invited defence attache to the ceremony and has an open invitation for anyone to come and analyze the wreckage of missiles. If you are a liar, you don't do such kind of stunts.
 

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Your own PM and Gafoora confirmed that one of the three pilots were hospitalised due to injuries! Video evidence of your onw contrymen claimed a bearded pilot was lynched. You don't believe your own people, paki PM and above all gafoora?

Strange that you ask for proofs from us!

IAF gave enough proof in the form of radar / electronic signatures to prove how pakis lost their F16 shot down by Mig21 Bison, combine it with your pilot who got hospitalised as admitted by gafoora is enough proof that you lost F16. Recently, immi the dimmi by mistake admitted in a junkie tabloid called NYT that only a Mig21 was shot down by pakis, rest is clear that paki F16 was killed by Mig21!
Ok kindly show me where Pakistani PM claimed one of the three pilots admitted in hospital or such? and the Pakistani citizens claiming lynching one bearded pilots? You are making things up. Just like IAF now. If you are claiming something, Show us the proofs

Nobody took IAF signatures seriously. Because Radar blips because As per own Indian admission Indian Airforce was under heavy electronic jamming at that time. That Was a result of F-16 dropping down below 500 meters and using it's DFRM based EW systems to fool Indian Radars.
 

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Bad the military defeat bigger the propaganda. :rofl:

Pakistani bondu show was hilarious to start with. Their makeup-wearing pilots were seriously looking gay and body language was of pathological liars.

Pakistani cognitive dissonance shows their genetic screw up due to cousin marriage.
 

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Bad the military defeat bigger the propaganda. :rofl:

Pakistani bondu show was hilarious to start with. Their makeup-wearing pilots were seriously looking gay and body language was of pathological liars.

Pakistani cognitive dissonance shows their genetic screw up due to cousin marriage.
Pakistan knew Female ground controller was in touch with Abhinandan through Radio intercepts and released the news in June.

" Before he could get his bearings right, Abhinandan’s MiG-21 was hit by an AIM-120C missile launched from an F-16 flown by Wg Cdr Noman Ali Khan, the Officer Commanding of No 29 ‘Aggressor’ Squadron, and also the overall mission leader. Radio monitoring revealed that Abhinandan was being frantically warned by his ground control about the danger he was getting into. “Alpha One, flow cold. Nandu, if you hear me, flow cold,” is how a desperate female controller called the unresponsive pilot in high-pitched screams

http://kaiser-aeronaut.blogspot.com/


Indians confirmed in a way



Wait for the Radio intercepts to be released to show who is a liar.
 

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Can you show me which country has taken Indian claims of F-16 shot down and Spice 2000 successful hits serious ?

IAF proofs are joke. Hence nobody took them serious. Ask any country and you will get your answer.
Lolx coming from a guy .. whose nation is built on lies nd conspiracy theories...

Let me show u the mirror.. here's what ur army spokesperson was blabbering..

https://www.news18.com/news/world/d...r-balakot-strike-claims-pakistan-2077165.html

Claiming no f-16 used nd Jf17 shot down mig21.. do u people hv any shame.. shambolic lies coming from ur top echolens...goshh!! nd then shamelessly awarding F-16 pilots later.. i mean lol.. have some shame before sprouting balderdash.. ur army spokesperson kept on pilling lies after lies to hide ur embrassment of loss of f-16 by continuously changing goal post!!..
 

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Can you show me which country has taken Indian claims of F-16 shot down and Spice 2000 successful hits serious ?

IAF proofs are joke. Hence nobody took them serious. Ask any country and you will get your answer. While PAF invited defence attache to the ceremony and has an open invitation for anyone to come and analyze the wreckage of missiles. If you are a liar, you don't do such kind of stunts.
Wow, new revelation - F16 jammed AWACS radar, some roohani EW technology indeed.

Inbreds like you are a joke to humanity.
 

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Ok kindly show me where Pakistani PM claimed such? and the Pakistani citizens claiming lynching one bearded pilots? You are making things up. Just like IAF now. If you are claiming something, Show us the proofs

Nobody took IAF signatures seriously. Because Radar blips because As per own Indian admission Indian Airforce was under heavy electronic jamming at that time. That Was a result of F-16 dropping down below 500 meters and using it's DFRM based EW systems to fool Indian Radars.
Watch, read and educate yourself:


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Pakis get caught in their own lies! It's been same since 1971 when they were told they were winning 1971 war and suddendly they got to know they lost East pakistan and there were riots all over pakistan!
 
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Pakistan knew Female ground controller was in touch with Abhinandan through Radio intercepts and released the news in June.

" Before he could get his bearings right, Abhinandan’s MiG-21 was hit by an AIM-120C missile launched from an F-16 flown by Wg Cdr Noman Ali Khan, the Officer Commanding of No 29 ‘Aggressor’ Squadron, and also the overall mission leader. Radio monitoring revealed that Abhinandan was being frantically warned by his ground control about the danger he was getting into. “Alpha One, flow cold. Nandu, if you hear me, flow cold,” is how a desperate female controller called the unresponsive pilot in high-pitched screams

http://kaiser-aeronaut.blogspot.com/


Indians confirmed in a way



Wait for the Radio intercepts to be released to show who is a liar.
Haha this Kaiser chutiya's blog is now being claimed as source , one who fumbled and changed F16 variants in his piece multiple times. Again, like your country, ZERO credibility.
 

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Lolx coming from a guy .. whose nation is built on lies nd conspiracy theories...

Let me show u the mirror.. here's what ur army spokesperson was blabbering..

https://www.news18.com/news/world/d...r-balakot-strike-claims-pakistan-2077165.html

Claiming no f-16 used nd Jf17 shot down mig21.. do u people hv any shame.. shambolic lies coming from ur top echolens...goshh!! nd then shamelessly awarding F-16 pilots later.. i mean lol.. have some shame before sprouting balderdash.. ur army spokesperson kept on pilling lies after lies to hide ur embrassment of loss of f-16 by continuously changing goal post!!..
Abhinandan shooting down f-16 is a gospel truth ? Whatever you said in your post, applies equally to you guys as well who are participating in perpetuating the lie of Mig-21 killed F-16
 

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Haha this Kaiser chutiya's blog is now being claimed as source , one who fumbled and changed F16 variants in his piece multiple times. Again, like your country, ZERO credibility.
Typos. Just as Indian media was claiming no Fighter jet has been shot down in February right.? Kaiser tufail claims has been vindicated. Female ground controller story checked out. What india has shown so far? Claims ? no proof ?
 

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Can you show me which country has taken Indian claims of F-16 shot down and Spice 2000 successful hits serious ?

IAF proofs are joke. Hence nobody took them serious. Ask any country and you will get your answer. While PAF invited defence attache to the ceremony and has an open invitation for anyone to come and analyze the wreckage of missiles. If you are a liar, you don't do such kind of stunts.
Do you really think which country took our jokes?
No one took India's jokes seriously when we shot Your mighty pns ghazi but still she lies dead in indian ocean.
No one took our jokes seriously when we fucked your operation grand slam and destroyed mighty Patton tanks with 3rd grade tanks. Australia even claimes you had a victory but reality is those tanks lie in patto nagar.
No one would have thought Mig-21 fucked Pakistani FA 104 in Bangladesh.

World's swears by the equipment which is passed and bought by india.
Wars are not won on tvs propaganda wars are won on action.
We removed article 370 strike Pakistan showing if you will attack us again we will do this again with a objective.

We don't even think about what west feels or think.
But they do know about our capabilities that's why they ask india for Indo-Pacific and shit.
Pakistan should focus on economic gains but again artificial state needs a reason to exist. Pakistan fears if india gets super successful they will become a irrelevant thing.
 
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