IAF MiG-21 shoots down Pakistani F-16

[vishwaprasad]

Your little theory makes no sense, AMRAAM fragments were found just East of Rajouri. That means the Sukhois were operating around that area. There is no way that no one would notice any SU-30mki crash, its pilots or a smoke plume.

If Pakistan actually shot down an SU-30mki they would absolutely show evidence because they have a history of bragging about shooting down aircraft that they never actually shot down. Why does Pakistan not release radar imagery showing an MKI disappearing from their radar? Why not show HUD footage? Why not play cockpit voice recordings from their pilots or intercepted Indian radio communications where the Indian side launched a search and rescue? None of this is classified since most countries have released such data publicly.

Why has no third party such as think tanks located any wreckage? There would be something by now.


For reference this is after a Mig-21 crashed in India. An SU-30 hold 4x more fuel, an SU-30 crash would be seen from many miles.


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Pakistan also achieved nothing. They crossed into India, after a few Indian aircraft were scrabbled they dropped their weapons in an empty field (only idiots believe they intended to do that). The large contingent of Pakistani aircraft supported by AWACS then fled, fired a bunch of missiles that hit absolutely nothing and failed to track a Mig-21 until it was inside Pakistani airspace, probably the only reason they finally tracked and shot down the Mig-21 was because it locked onto an F-16.

At the end Pakistani are liars that harbor terrorists. Remember they were hiding Bin Laden, and acted like they didn't know. They lied about losing an F-16 to Soviets, they lied about shooting down Mig-23 over Afghanistan.

Thanks for such a nice reply bro... it has opened my eyes....

And guys I am not Paki... I am Maharashtriyan Indian... Staying Mumbai... Dad's hometown Ratnagiri, Moms hometown Karwar....

Sorry if my posts offended you but I was just disappointed as what I expected from IAF was not delivered and thats true.... anyways I am no more posting on this thread

 

[WARREN SS]

I am Maharashtriyan Indian...

BC He getting Exposed more and

 

[cyclops]

Thanks for such a nice reply bro... it has opened my eyes....

And guys I am not Paki... I am Maharashtriyan Indian... Staying Mumbai... Dad's hometown Ratnagiri, Moms hometown Karwar....

Sorry if my posts offended you but I was just disappointed as what I expected from IAF was not delivered and thats true.... anyways I am no more posting on this thread

Congratulations, you can google names & places with sheer incompetence.

IAF did what it wanted to, i.e. bomb pakistan proper, kill +200 paki terrorists in Balakot, thwart napakistani jets even while they were greater in number, shoot down an F-16, catch dgispr lying multiple times and overall humiliate pakistan.

The current government has set a precedent & regardless of who is in power, bombing you with utmost prejudice from now on for harboring terrorists will continue to remain an attractive option for politicians.

1st it was a special forces surgical strikes then it was air strikes & since we all know you can't win a conventional war & that napakistan's nuclear bluff has been caught, pakis should watch out for what comes next as things will only keep escalating every year from now on.

 

[Joker]

Thanks for such a nice reply bro... it has opened my eyes....

And guys I am not Paki... I am Maharashtriyan Indian... Staying Mumbai... Dad's hometown Ratnagiri, Moms hometown Karwar....

Sorry if my posts offended you but I was just disappointed as what I expected from IAF was not delivered and thats true.... anyways I am no more posting on this thread

If you truly are a "Maharashtra*y*an" Indianjusy say Thakre zindabad, Jinnah chityabad

 

[Bobybob]

Good analysis. Are there any more videos that can be analyzed like this?

This might help,.......,............

 

[indiatester]

This might help,.......,............

Thanks, I saw your earlier post too!
@sayareakd This should help in locating the F16!

 

[Indx TechStyle]

I am Maharashtriyan Indian

And what the f is that? Maharashtra is a made name for a political subdivision. It has no demonym, no separate identity and Indians don't use this word for demonym.

 

[SorryNotSorry]

I never took the time to notice that in the two separate videos, one video shows a smoke trail from the aircraft while the other video shows an aircraft with no smoke trail suggesting it's possible two aircraft were shot down. My suspicion is further aroused by the fact that Pakistan said they had two pilots in custody. How does the Pakistani military botch the story so badly? Either they are completely incompetent and don't know what's going on inside their own borders or they conveniently are trying to hid something.


I always wondered why the Mig-21 wreckage was so well intact if it fell from such a high altitude as we seen in the video. One would think the Mig-21 wreckage would be unrecognizable.

Here for comparison is an Israeli F-16 that was shot down. It was hit at high altitude and here is what the wreckage looked like:

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There is no comparison with this:

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I'm not 100% sold on the fact that an F-16 was shot down but there certainly is some circumstantial evidence that suggests two aircraft went down and the Pakistani version of events kept morphing and changing (sign of lies). Why did they say they had two pilots? Why do they have blackouts? Why has no SU-30 wreckage been found in such a populated country as India?


Some Pakistanis are trying to say India is hiding the wreckage which would be almost impossible to do but let's dissect this claim. When that Indian helicopter crashed did India hid the wreckage?


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As we can see there is a crowed around the wreckage including journalists. India never bothered confiscating cameras, dispersing the crowd or cordoning off the area. On the other hand Pakistan has outright denied losing aircraft and has a history of claiming they shot down aircraft when in fact they outright shamelessly lied.

And sorry I could not resist and yes it's my handy work:


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My grandfather worked in the railways, so my father ended up spending a lot of his youth in Jaipur.
As a result they were able to tune into the Pakistani radio broadcasts. During the 65 war, the Pakistani public radio kept boasting of the Pak Fauj rapidly progressing towards Jaipur (true to some extent), and then finally made the claim to their own public that they had captured the whole city of Jaipur- meanwhile in reality their charge was completely stopped by India and they were getting their ass-whooped and were no where near .

Moral of the story- they come up with the tallest claims when they have their teeth kicked in.
Freaking pathological liars.

 

[SorryNotSorry]

This might help,.......,............

Thanks, I saw your earlier post too!
@sayareakd This should help in locating the F16!

Do you think deterring the direction of travel by looking at the Mig-21 debris and then using that to analyze the videos could help establish some more concrete proof ?

 

[hit&run]

Pakistanis are the epitome of 'makkaari'. These rats say India is hiding the truth but at the same time use Indian news to run everything that is posted at their stinky forums. You remove news reportage by transparent Indian media and press they will have nothing to the debate but boob sizes behind kurta of their face whitened dumb news reporters.

 

[Arsalan123]

Pakistanis are the epitome of 'makkaari'. These rats say India is hiding the truth but at the same time use Indian news to run everything that is posted at their stinky forums. You remove news reportage by transparent Indian media and press they will have nothing to the debate but boob sizes behind kurta of their face whitened dumb news reporters.

at least on pdf,indian members can also speak aggressively unlike this forum.i have been banned on "indian strikes against pakistani terrorism" thread just because indian members don't want any pakistani member.how can you run a forum when you ban people from other countries without any reason? i don't know what kind of setup is this? mods are crazy.at least you should give chance to others so that they can also speak.here is a tradition that anyone who speak against your interest will be banned.this can't be true.these type of things don't happen on pdf.they warn if someone give abuses or talk about religion but not allowing someone to speak just because he is a pakistani,that's ridiculous.members were making fun of me like they don't know that i have been banned from that specific thread.i mean this is crazy lol.i have seen many members who asked mods to take action against me because i am pakistani.are you sure that you only want indians on this forum? do you want people from other countries to say something on your threads? i am not sure.i don't know if they ban me on this thread too.it seems likely.lol

 

[Joker]

at least on pdf,indian members can also speak aggressively unlike this forum.i have been banned on "indian strikes against pakistani terrorism" thread just because indian members don't want any pakistani member.how can you run a forum when you ban people from other countries without any reason? i don't know what kind of setup is this? mods are crazy.at least you should give chance to others so that they can also speak.here is a tradition that anyone who speak against your interest will be banned.this can't be true.these type of things don't happen on pdf.they warn if someone give abuses or talk about religion but not allowing someone to speak just because he is a pakistani,that's ridiculous.members were making fun of me like they don't know that i have been banned from that specific thread.i mean this is crazy lol.i have seen many members who asked mods to take action against me because i am not pakistani.are you sure that you only want indians on this forum? do you want people from other countries to say something on your threads? i am not sure.i don't know if they ban me on this thread too.it seems likely.lol

If mods are crazy, go back to the shithole you came from. Why do you want to frequent this forum. I know why, coz on the paki-dic-forum you are not getting any news. All the news on the one n only paki forum is censured. You frequent here coz you get your correct information here.
We actually tolerated you for quite some time before you got banned. You kept on derailing the thread.
When Indian forums throw a dog a biscuits, we don't want to know how it tastes. We expect dog to be happy that he go something, otherwise we put down that cousin marrying mongrel down

 

[Arsalan123]

If mods are crazy, go back to the shithole you came from. Why do you want to frequent this forum. I know why, coz on the paki-dic-forum you are not getting any news. All the news on the one n only paki forum is censured. You frequent here coz you get your correct information here.
We actually tolerated you for quite some time before you got banned. You kept on derailing the thread.
When Indian forums throw a dog a biscuits, we don't want to know how it tastes. We expect dog to be happy that he go something, otherwise we put down that cousin marrying mongrel down

look at your language man.i can't believe that i am on indian defence forum and you are calling me a dog.i just can't believe this.

 

[prasadr14]

at least on pdf,indian members can also speak aggressively unlike this forum.

LMAO.
Do you know how many times I have been banned there?
You fart and you get banned there...

 

[Arsalan123]

LMAO.
Do you know how many times I have been banned there?
You fart and you get banned there...

i have seen many indian members like i am sorry,not sorry,sr nair,they always speak aggressively but kindly look at here.they either ban me on different threads or call me dog or traitor or porki or things like that.this terrifies me.

 

[vampyrbladez]

i have seen many indian members like i am sorry,not sorry,sr nair,they always speak aggressively but kindly look at here.they either ban me on different threads or call me dog or traitor or porki or things like that.this terrifies me.

As long as Pakistan makes State Sponsored Terrorism a nation policy, world will treat Pakistan and it's citizens like a leper. You have nothing that we envy but we have much. If you attack us using proxies, we will flatten you.

"Pay a wicked man his own coin."
- Chanakya

 

[Joker]

look at your language man.i can't believe that i am on indian defence forum and you are calling me a dog.i just can't believe this.

Same way pakishitstainis could not believe they lost Dhaka and then hung Bhutto, or they could not believe that they lost Kargil,,or lost 1965 war, or that world care two shots about Pakistanis. Not believing reality is in the DNA of Pakistan. That is the entire premise of Pakistan. How can you be different?
All the rational people in Pak have been killed or hounded off to other countries where they act as Indians to get acceptance and when they are stable, come back to pakshaitan to marry their cousins, while keeping a Gori mem on the sidelines.
This goes to show pakishitstainis don't change or can't be rational, you are no different

 

[Arsalan123]

As long as Pakistan makes State Sponsored Terrorism a nation policy, world will treat Pakistan and it's citizens like a leper. You have nothing that we envy but we have much. If you attack us using proxies, we will flatten you.

"Pay a wicked man his own coin."
- Chanakya

i am sorry but i haven't seen people on different world forums treating pakistani like dogs or porkies or terrorist.this terrorist narrative comes after american help.india was crying for the same terrorism issue in the past but americans didn't pay any attention.now they have failed in afghanistan and taking revenge by making india it's friend against pakistan and yes americans are helping india to counter pakistan on this terrorism issue.you can't say that world is behaving like this like that.it's only on this forum that i have been treated like this,like a dog.very sad.

 

[Joker]

look at your language man.i can't believe that i am on indian defence forum and you are calling me a dog.i just can't believe this.

Don't believe it then, what's new?
Did you guys believe Dhaka fell? Did you guys believe that you lost 1965? Did you guys believe that Kargil was an international blunder which causes buttpain to Pakistan everywhere
Did you guys believe Osama was in Pakistan?
Reality is pakishitstainis are inbred lot who don't have an iota of brains. What they conveniently forget is that the new Indian generation, born after 1947; does not care about shared history , culture and what not. So you won't get an iota of sympathy here. All the actions of pak-shit-stain in past two decades is gonna blow back to nwfp and KPK once USA withdrawal from Afghanistan.
We don't really care about you. Earlier generation did, we don't! And Modi personifies this emotion.
So remember, don't ask for mercy next time you splutter you inbred paki mongrel howls here, you will be met with same language. Cause there is an adage in the hospital that we work, a cancer and a paki, has to be killed off, you don't expect them to be civilized. They will ask for more for every inch you give to them.

Also, just for your info. Terrorist attacks on Indian civilians stopped after that school attack, didn't they?

 

[Joker]

i am sorry but i haven't seen people on different world forums treating pakistani like dogs or porkies or terrorist.this terrorist narrative comes after american help.india was crying for the same terrorism issue in the past but americans didn't pay any attention.now they have failed in afghanistan and taking revenge by making india it's friend against pakistan and yes americans are helping india to counter pakistan on this terrorism issue.you can't say that world is behaving like this like that.it's only on this forum that i have been treated like this,like a dog.very sad.

Hahahahahahai can see the next generation of pakis (just like that little ak47 Totting jihadan) braying that we defeated USA in Afghanistan AOA
What a joke this tribe is