IAF MiG-21 shoots down Pakistani F-16

[Craigs]

No flanker went down that day dude. Do you really believe that it's possible to hide the wreckage of such a huge plane? If it really went down them some Kasmiri would have posted that video with uttermost excitement just like they did with the Budgam chopper crash.
The Mig-21 was shot down in Pakistan territory where an Armada of 24 jets were waiting for the bait.
As for the Rafale thing, that's basically Modi's gimmick to take a dig at Raga.
As for Dhanoa, he said "once we Rafale, they won't dare to come near the border" that's true as the Meteor BVR is more capacnc then those R-77's.

Also as far as I know Internet services have been turned off in POK and Northern areas of Pak but there are no restrictions on Indian Kashmir so no way to hide any wreckage on our side and if there was wreckage on their side then they would have splashed it all over by now.

 

[Neptune]

Video comparison of two different aircraft going down:

I never took the time to notice that in the two separate videos, one video shows a smoke trail from the aircraft while the other video shows an aircraft with no smoke trail suggesting it's possible two aircraft were shot down. My suspicion is further aroused by the fact that Pakistan said they had two pilots in custody. How does the Pakistani military botch the story so badly? Either they are completely incompetent and don't know what's going on inside their own borders or they conveniently are trying to hid something.


I always wondered why the Mig-21 wreckage was so well intact if it fell from such a high altitude as we seen in the video. One would think the Mig-21 wreckage would be unrecognizable.

Here for comparison is an Israeli F-16 that was shot down. It was hit at high altitude and here is what the wreckage looked like:

There is no comparison with this:

I'm not 100% sold on the fact that an F-16 was shot down but there certainly is some circumstantial evidence that suggests two aircraft went down and the Pakistani version of events kept morphing and changing (sign of lies). Why did they say they had two pilots? Why do they have blackouts? Why has no SU-30 wreckage been found in such a populated country as India?


Some Pakistanis are trying to say India is hiding the wreckage which would be almost impossible to do but let's dissect this claim. When that Indian helicopter crashed did India hid the wreckage?

As we can see there is a crowed around the wreckage including journalists. India never bothered confiscating cameras, dispersing the crowd or cordoning off the area. On the other hand Pakistan has outright denied losing aircraft and has a history of claiming they shot down aircraft when in fact they outright shamelessly lied.

And sorry I could not resist and yes it's my handy work:

 

[indiatester]

Video comparison of two different aircraft going down:

Good analysis. Are there any more videos that can be analyzed like this?

 

[bose]

I never took the time to notice that in the two separate videos, one video shows a smoke trail from the aircraft while the other video shows an aircraft with no smoke trail suggesting it's possible two aircraft were shot down. My suspicion is further aroused by the fact that Pakistan said they had two pilots in custody. How does the Pakistani military botch the story so badly? Either they are completely incompetent and don't know what's going on inside their own borders or they conveniently are trying to hid something.


I always wondered why the Mig-21 wreckage was so well intact if it fell from such a high altitude as we seen in the video. One would think the Mig-21 wreckage would be unrecognizable.

Here for comparison is an Israeli F-16 that was shot down. It was hit at high altitude and here is what the wreckage looked like:

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There is no comparison with this:

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I'm not 100% sold on the fact that an F-16 was shot down but there certainly is some circumstantial evidence that suggests two aircraft went down and the Pakistani version of events kept morphing and changing (sign of lies). Why did they say they had two pilots? Why do they have blackouts? Why has no SU-30 wreckage been found in such a populated country as India?


Some Pakistanis are trying to say India is hiding the wreckage which would be almost impossible to do but let's dissect this claim. When that Indian helicopter crashed did India hid the wreckage?


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As we can see there is a crowed around the wreckage including journalists. India never bothered confiscating cameras, dispersing the crowd or cordoning off the area. On the other hand Pakistan has outright denied losing aircraft and has a history of claiming they shot down aircraft when in fact they outright shamelessly lied.

And sorry I could not resist and yes it's my handy work:


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The Pakistanis claimed that they have three Indian pilots with them ... one of them is in hospital with injury and two were held captives ...

I do not have the clip with me now ... may be we can get it at youtube somewhere ... where the local resident was clearly saying they saw three parasuites coming down after the dog fight between two fighter planes ...

There is something fishy somewhere in the Pakistani claims ... they changed after continuously ...

The Pakistanis are claiming that there was no effect of Indian bombing in Balakot ... but you see they are preventing anyone from going near the house target ... There must be something to hide...

It is very difficult to get the hard evidence in such scenarios where it is not yet a declared war ... one have to rely on circumstantial evidence and try to expose the lies ...

On a different note:

In the 1971 war these same Pakistanis were claiming in their news papers and radio that they are winning the war ... where as the actual ground reality is Pakistanis have just surrendered with 90,000 prisoners ...

 

[cobra commando]

Arrite ! aal you prod DFI lindoo warriors. Param Supercommander of Akhand Bharat varsh; Shri shri Mudi ji (PBUH ) says we shot down teh Baki F-solah.

Thats it. You can lower your trishuls now.

 

[vishwaprasad]

I'm not 100% sold on the fact that an F-16 was shot down but there certainly is some circumstantial evidence that suggests two aircraft went down and the Pakistani version of events kept morphing and changing (sign of lies). Why did they say they had two pilots? Why do they have blackouts? Why has no SU-30 wreckage been found in such a populated country as India?


Some Pakistanis are trying to say India is hiding the wreckage which would be almost impossible to do but let's dissect this claim. When that Indian helicopter crashed did India hid the wreckage

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I was in Kashmir last Nov, After taking off from Jammu to Srinagar I could see countless ice covered mountains with no sign of human habitance among those mountains or canyons between those.... may be trackers can reach there.... My point is its quite possible to not to notice if MKI has fallen somewhere in one of such canyon in spite of India being such a populated country...

India did not hide the chopper crash because its not going to bring down the moral of Indian ppl... MKI crash will bring it down....

 

[mayfair]

I was in Kashmir last Nov, After taking off from Jammu to Srinagar I could see countless ice covered mountains with no sign of human habitance among those mountains or canyons between those.... may be trackers can reach there....

How many snow (not ice) covered mountains near in and around Nowshera, especially at the time of conflict?

No human "habitance" (WTF is habitance)? You could make that out from the plane? You've got eagle eyes..

If you are so convinces, why not draw a schematic of where you think your F-16 was shot down and where you fantasise that Su-30 could have been?

Waiting for your expertise.

 

[vishwaprasad]

How many snow (not ice) covered mountains near in and around Nowshera, especially at the time of conflict?

No human "habitance" (WTF is habitance)? You could make that out from the plane? You've got eagle eyes..

If you are so convinces, why not draw a schematic of where you think your F-16 was shot down and where you fantasise that Su-30 could have been?

Waiting for your expertise.

whatever... this can't hide a fact that we had a bloody nose on 27th Feb.... They entered IOK, made MKI helpless, shot down Bison,maybe MKI too. Took away our pilot with them.... This is second time we had to beg for our pilots life after pilot nachiketa in kargil war.... that time also he was flying Mig 21 and in 2019 also we sent Mig 21 proudly to intercept F-16.... Agreed on Mig 21 but whats the use of mighty Flanker who was not even given a chance to fire its own missiles....

Now lets look at the fact that what a stupidity was shown by IAF by not expecting any response from PAF after balakot strike... they were so casual that after seeing PAF jets they were actually like WTF???

Imagine instead of India some country like Israel was involved in such circumstances???? Today PAF response would have been handled in completely diffrent and decisive manner....

 

[White Wolf]

I was in Kashmir last Nov, After taking off from Jammu to Srinagar I could see countless ice covered mountains with no sign of human habitance among those mountains or canyons between those.... may be trackers can reach there.... My point is its quite possible to not to notice if MKI has fallen somewhere in one of such canyon in spite of India being such a populated country...

India did not hide the chopper crash because its not going to bring down the moral of Indian ppl... MKI crash will bring it down....

Wow!!!! What an observation this nigga has. This troll is selling us the fact that an MKI crashed and no other eye witness was there to see the massive flanker falling down.

 

[White Wolf]

whatever... this can't hide a fact that we had a bloody nose on 27th Feb.... They entered IOK, made MKI helpless, shot down Bison,maybe MKI too. Took away our pilot with them.... This is second time we had to beg for our pilots life after pilot nachiketa in kargil war.... that time also he was flying Mig 21 and in 2019 also we sent Mig 21 proudly to intercept F-16.... Agreed on Mig 21 but whats the use of mighty Flanker who was not even given a chance to fire its own missiles....

Now lets look at the fact that what a stupidity was shown by IAF by not expecting any response from PAF after balakot strike... they were so casual that after seeing PAF jets they were actually like WTF???

Imagine instead of India some country like Israel was involved in such circumstances???? Today PAF response would have been handled in completely diffrent and decisive manner....

Begged for our pilot??
Better open an Indian account on Pee Dee F. I bet you already have one there too. Go and do your chutiyaape there.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

They entered IOK,

There is nothing called IOK. Resolution of 1948 doesn't legally recognize Pakistani controlled part of Kashmir and called as PoK. Indian J&K is legal.

made MKI helpless

MKI was never helpless but in fact is an overkill for F-16. All their "successful" operations took place when enemy is not deployed actually. Be it Pakistani Navy damaging Gujarati naval bases in 1965 when Indian Naval ships were all docked or Pakistani air force jets with full squadron at LoC when so far 8 Indian planes were there and rest didn't scramble.

In case enemy attacks or even putting defenses, they are slaughtered always. More pathetic, India struck deep at home, they are celebrating breaking window glass with stone.

This is second time we had to beg for our pilots life after pilot nachiketa in kargil war....

We never begged for either of them. We only threatened war and porks released them.

Imagine instead of India some country like Israel was involved in such circumstances???? Today PAF response would have been handled in completely diffrent and decisive manner....

We aren't casual players like Israel. Half of world turns against us when we go decisive. Nevertheless, we are still hitting them hard.

And they are running to UNSC to beg for mercy.

 

[mayfair]

whatever... this can't hide a fact that we had a bloody nose on 27th Feb....

That's true, YOU had a bloody nose on 27 Feb, a bloody backside on 26th and A black and blue-body all over ever since.

They entered IOK

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is how you smoke out a Napaki.

@LETHALFORCE @tarunraju @Dovah @LurkerBaba

A Napaki false-flagger detected..

 

[Anil47]

So basically the ROE was not to engage unless until they are inside our airspace and this prevented MKIs to fire their missiles.

 

[WARREN SS]

They entered IOK, made MKI helpless, shot down Bison,maybe MKI too.

But Pakistani denied they entered Kashmir there FO denied

And they say Mig-21 shot in Pakistani air space


LOL MKI 38 ton Machine Even if Artillery shell falls in territory its big debris

BC Kya Maal phukha tune

 

[Indx TechStyle]

That's true, YOU had a bloody nose on 27 Feb, a bloody backside on 26th and A black and blue-body all over ever since.



And ladies and gentlemen is how you smoke out a Napaki.

@LETHALFORCE @tarunraju @Dovah

A Napaki false-flagger detected..

Check his history. He's a Pakistani using proxy probably to flash Indian flag somehow.
May be showing his true flag brings shame to him. Hell, being Pakistani is a shame.

 

[***Vo!D***]

whatever... this can't hide a fact that we had a bloody nose on 27th Feb.... They entered IOK, made MKI helpless, shot down Bison,maybe MKI too. Took away our pilot with them.... This is second time we had to beg for our pilots life after pilot nachiketa in kargil war.... that time also he was flying Mig 21 and in 2019 also we sent Mig 21 proudly to intercept F-16.... Agreed on Mig 21 but whats the use of mighty Flanker who was not even given a chance to fire its own missiles....

Now lets look at the fact that what a stupidity was shown by IAF by not expecting any response from PAF after balakot strike... they were so casual that after seeing PAF jets they were actually like WTF???

Imagine instead of India some country like Israel was involved in such circumstances???? Today PAF response would have been handled in completely diffrent and decisive manner....

Dumb c*nt porki pig just disclosed itself. Be gone ho.

@LurkerBaba Take this thing down please.

 

[vampyrbladez]

whatever... this can't hide a fact that we had a bloody nose on 27th Feb.... They entered IOK, made MKI helpless, shot down Bison,maybe MKI too. Took away our pilot with them.... This is second time we had to beg for our pilots life after pilot nachiketa in kargil war.... that time also he was flying Mig 21 and in 2019 also we sent Mig 21 proudly to intercept F-16.... Agreed on Mig 21 but whats the use of mighty Flanker who was not even given a chance to fire its own missiles....

Now lets look at the fact that what a stupidity was shown by IAF by not expecting any response from PAF after balakot strike... they were so casual that after seeing PAF jets they were actually like WTF???

Imagine instead of India some country like Israel was involved in such circumstances???? Today PAF response would have been handled in completely diffrent and decisive manner....

Congi we can see through your subterfuge!

We shot down an F 16 and got our boy back in record time! No MKI was shot down as there would have been proof.

Send us Rs. 50 to shill for Pappu!

 

[Neptune]

I was in Kashmir last Nov, After taking off from Jammu to Srinagar I could see countless ice covered mountains with no sign of human habitance among those mountains or canyons between those.... may be trackers can reach there.... My point is its quite possible to not to notice if MKI has fallen somewhere in one of such canyon in spite of India being such a populated country...

India did not hide the chopper crash because its not going to bring down the moral of Indian ppl... MKI crash will bring it down....

Your little theory makes no sense, AMRAAM fragments were found just East of Rajouri. That means the Sukhois were operating around that area. There is no way that no one would notice any SU-30mki crash, its pilots or a smoke plume.

If Pakistan actually shot down an SU-30mki they would absolutely show evidence because they have a history of bragging about shooting down aircraft that they never actually shot down. Why does Pakistan not release radar imagery showing an MKI disappearing from their radar? Why not show HUD footage? Why not play cockpit voice recordings from their pilots or intercepted Indian radio communications where the Indian side launched a search and rescue? None of this is classified since most countries have released such data publicly.

Why has no third party such as think tanks located any wreckage? There would be something by now.


For reference this is after a Mig-21 crashed in India. An SU-30 hold 4x more fuel, an SU-30 crash would be seen from many miles.

Pakistan also achieved nothing. They crossed into India, after a few Indian aircraft were scrabbled they dropped their weapons in an empty field (only idiots believe they intended to do that). The large contingent of Pakistani aircraft supported by AWACS then fled, fired a bunch of missiles that hit absolutely nothing and failed to track a Mig-21 until it was inside Pakistani airspace, probably the only reason they finally tracked and shot down the Mig-21 was because it locked onto an F-16.

At the end Pakistani are liars that harbor terrorists. Remember they were hiding Bin Laden, and acted like they didn't know. They lied about losing an F-16 to Soviets, they lied about shooting down Mig-23 over Afghanistan.

 

[cyclops]

whatever... ....

Nope, MKI was never shot down instead it scared off PAF which won't even have the balls to enter Indian airspace if this was a real war, just like in Kargil in 99.
Similarly how you pakis were crying for de-escalation now after being fooled into believing that you lot could actually retaliate to our bombing of Balakot.

The MiG21 fucked up an F16 & the compulsively lying & self fellating pakis are the ones still to accept the martyrdom of their own pilots & back up the claim of the 2 other pilots they never had in captivity.

I suggest you regurgitate this feces to your fellow pakis who have the stomach to actually consume it.

 

[singhboy98]

I already suggested to you guys not to engage Porki/Commie False flaggers. There only objective is to derail the thread. Seems like they have been somewhat successful.