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[airstrike99]

Their is a large and power full lobbying happening for armata.One other thing is this RFI was released soon after second negative import list that is of particular concern.

negative lists only appear if we have the technology of those weapon systems.

 

[airstrike99]

Army calls for proposals to build tanks, DRDO surprised

The Army has earlier been at loggerheads with the premier defence research agency DRDO over its Arjun tank. The move is significant as DRDO is already working on a futuristic tank -- Future Main Battle Tank (FMBT).

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Aight

that was old news before 2018. a lot of underground work has happened. trust me. the way top level people speak is similar to how we speak with our friends. that's why they won't broadcast it.

 

[not so dravidian]

negative lists only appear if we have the technology of those weapon systems.

negative list is noting more than an way to stop institutional corruption.
why do we need to bar something which we can make, unless there is a lobby preventing

 

[not so dravidian]

@fire starter ji sorry, i dnt have such high hopes

If ATAGS gets inducted inducted, then maybe i will regain hope

 

[Marliii]

Similar RFI was issued earlier,maybe this time too it gets scrapped

Last RFI wasn't scrapped army withdrawn it because of specifications in it were technologically inferior that says in this new RFI

 

[Tuco]

So adoptive camouflage , dew canon, swarming technology, electric engine to reduce heat signature and battery pack to sustain all the gizmos for 24 hours. Yes mobile charging stations.

 

[airstrike99]

its real and DRDO is ready for this FMBT or GNMBT. this was a seminar in feb 2018. they were already ready with possible requirements in 2017.

the case study for GNMBT was already done in 2016 and published by 2017.
and the case study matches with the current FRCV requirements. it looks like army baaboos already gave up.

the 464 T-90 S with TOT was their last meal of fluid ( scam money ). think about it. it was completely useless. it looks like there was some deal between army and DRDO. like .. if army gets their part from foriegn maal, they will okay the GNMBT or FMBT from DRDO.

 

[Lonewolf]

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its real and DRDO is ready for this FMBT or GNMBT. this was a seminar in feb 2018. they were already ready with possible requirements in 2017.

the case study for GNMBT was already done in 2016 and published by 2017.
and the case study matches with the current FRCV requirements. it looks like army baaboos already gave up.

the 464 T-90 S with TOT was their last meal of fluid ( scam money ). think about it. it was completely useless. it looks like there was some deal between army and DRDO. like .. if army gets their part from foriegn maal, they will okay the GNMBT or FMBT from DRDO.

It's really sad , in place when we are looking at making world class product we are thinking about inducting indigenous product due to corruption

 

[Coalmine]

May be Govt should give Arjun to CAPF and create a separate batalion for it.

 

[airstrike99]

these are the conclusions they have arrived to.

if FMBT is based by modifying arjun to arjun MK2, it will weigh 54.38 tons(6 road wheels) -evolutionary approach. note : (armata weighs 55 tons with 7 road wheels) because russian composite armour is lighter and efficient than kanchan armour.
if its a complete new design, it will weigh 41 tons (6 road wheels) - revolutionary approach

you can observe that they have made engine factor and grouser factor as 1 for both.

grouser factor however is calculated by

G.F = 1 + 0.05[c.sub.GF] . where [.] is greatest integer function, while c.sub.GF is more related to the programme software.

generally for grousers height (h) less than 1.5 inch, [c.sub.GF] = 0 ==> G.F =1
for h > 1.5 inch, [c.sub.GF] = 2 ==> G.F = 1+ 0.05(2) = 1.1

for tracked vehicles, G.F = 1 is enough.

also engine factor = 1 if power to weight ratio h.p/ton >10 otherwise its 1.05

some factors have standard experimental figures, which are different for tracked & self propelled, tracked & towed, wheeled and self propelled, wheeled & towed.

while others depend on that particular vehicle.

for example

MI- mobility index = {( C.P x w.t ) / ( T x G.F) + B - C } x E x Trf

C.P = contact pressure; w.t = weight factor; T = track factor; G.F = grouser factor; B = boogie factor; C = clearance factor, E = engine factor; Trf = transmission factor.

Trf = 1.05 for evolutionary and 1 for revolutionary

===> evolutionary Arjun MK2 will have a "MECHANICAL" transmission. whereas new design GNMBT will have a "HYDRAULIC" transmission.

 

[airstrike99]

It has futuristic retractable main gun

Like the guns us men have. .

 

[Lonewolf]

Like the guns us men have. .

I thought that wasn't retractable

 

[UnderFingy]

I thought that wasn't retractable

You mean yours doesn't go inside your body when not in use?

 

[airstrike99]

I thought that wasn't retractable

upto some extent. obviously tank guns are generally longer than tank itself or almost as long as tanks.
so practically, a tank can't retract entirety of its gun

 

[Lonewolf]

You mean yours doesn't go inside your body when not in use?

Nah it just deflate but don't retact fully ???


I think you guys have some issues here

 

[airstrike99]

alright stick to the topic. no deviations. pls. pls. i'm sorry for making a joke in the first place.

 

[THESIS THORON]

DRDO CAN DO IT FOR SURE BUT PROBLEM IS WITH ARMY SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH ATAGS.
IT IS A WORLD RECORD HOLDER BUT ARMY IS ISSUING STATEMENT THAT THEY ARE CONCERNED.

AND ALSO FUNDING SHOULD ALSO BE PROPER FROM GOV

 

[Haldilal]

Ya'll Nibbiars Jab Bakra katne hai wala hai to whir use bhaes kyu kare. Jab import hei nahi hone what to to phir. Jada se Jada russi ek Indian firm ke saath JV kar ke ek indianized design dekha Sakte hai.

 

[UnderFingy]

DRDO CAN DO IT FOR SURE BUT PROBLEM IS WITH ARMY SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH ATAGS.
IT IS A WORLD RECORD HOLDER BUT ARMY IS ISSUING STATEMENT THAT THEY ARE CONCERNED.

AND ALSO FUNDING SHOULD ALSO BE PROPER FROM GOV

Didn't USA beat the record immediately after it was announced?

 

[Aditya Ballal]

Didn't USA beat the record immediately after it was announced?

It was South Africa IIRC.