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[Adrian Corvus]

Also @t 90s, do explain why are they developing this turret when t-14 is 'le incroyable piece de resistance'?

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Also @t 90s, do explain why are they developing this turret when t-14 is 'le incroyable piece de resistance'?

This thing is very big man.

 

[t 90s]

Why you so pro t 14 armata , that's not in line with indigenization , too expensive , not much scope of indian equipment , not combat proven too , nor is too much futuristic as it is portrayed

There are no alternatives + armata is the way forward.

Also @t 90s, do explain why are they developing this turret when t-14 is 'le incroyable piece de resistance'?

Because crew sit in turret da!

 

[Lonewolf]

There are no alternatives + armata is the way forward.

Because crew sit in turret da!

We can develop our alternative in mean time , no armata should be bought .

Timeline is 2030

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

There are no alternatives + armata is the way forward.

Because crew sit in turret da!

Why bylorossiya flag man ?

 

[t 90s]

We can develop our alternative in mean time , no armata should be bought .

Timeline is 2030

no one is stopping anyone but armata is coming anyway.

 

[Lonewolf]

no one is stopping anyone but armata is coming anyway.

Nah ,see for yourself

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

no one is stopping anyone but armata is coming anyway.

It won't come , not because import lobby doesn't want it but we don't haave monies.
Did ak 203 came ? Still stuck.

 

[t 90s]

It won't come , not because import lobby doesn't want it but we don't haave monies.
Did ak 203 came ? Still stuck.

I think we should give rest to import lobby this or that.we buy what we can't build ourselves period & as for money it is there, that's why RFI has been issued in first place.

 

[Adrian Corvus]

There are no alternatives + armata is the way forward.

Because crew sit in turret da!

uhhhhh...my question was more of- why tf are they going for this turret on what looks like t-90 chassis as an upgrade when all the problems could be solved by replacing them with T-14 as "it's the way forward"

 

[Adrian Corvus]

I think we should give rest to import lobby this or that.we buy what we can't build ourselves period & as for money it is there, that's why RFI has been issued in first place.

ummm...how do you know we can't build a good tank from the experience we gained from Arjun?

 

[Rassil Krishnan]

I was wondering...shouldn't the aforementioned reasons(except COVID) have affected the R&D for T-14 too and ruskies are just not letting out the fact that T-14 is not as capable as they claim to be...

its not ready to be inducted in respectable nos in any army,i dont know what army is thinking if that was their choice beforehand.

 

[Trololo]

There are no alternatives + armata is the way forward.

Because crew sit in turret da!

There is not much info available about this turret. which tank will this be mounted on?

 

[Marliii]

 

[vampyrbladez]

And what about the chamber, BCG, feeding mechanism, etc? Also, changing the barrel (along with all the mentioned systems) isn't as easy as it sounds.

What "common design platform"? Do your research on the internals.

NGSW is a SIG MCX. It's barrel assembly is completely different from the AR-10 that is SIG-716i, allowing for easy barrel change. Not the same weapon system at all. The only way for 716i to be chambered in 6.8*51mm is to design a new upper receiver. Existing magazines should hold 6.8mm as well.

Nope. Just change the barrel and you're good. Don't spread misinformation.

 

[vampyrbladez]

Nope. Just change the barrel and you're good. Don't spread misinformation.

Dude, sorry but you are completely misinformed about some basic facts on small arms procurement.

• SIG 716I

Essentially it is an AR-10 (7.62x51mm NATO) rifle which is perfect for Indian Army in mountain warfare. Pakis use G3 (7.62X51mm NATO) which has greater stopping power and overall greater range than AKM (7.62X39mm) and INSAS/TAVOR/M4A1 (5.56x45mm NATO) and consequently outgun us at LOC.

Keep in mind Pakis and Chinks will use LVL III and LVL IV Armor Plates in any conflict in the next 5-6 years just like us. As LOC and LAC has shown, engagement distances will be 400m+ with the SIG 716I being overkill, having pretty decent controllable automatic fire (much better than G3, FN FAL) in CQB.




The US Military in the future will use the (6.8x43mm NATO (?)) because of the above reason. The interesting thing is that the 6.8x43mm has better ballistics than 7.62x51mm at ranges beyond 700m and is much lighter, almost by 40%, with just 20% less Kinetic Energy than 7.62x51mm.

Now here is where things get very interesting.



https://www.quora.com/Can-I-fire-a-...bolt-action-rifle-without-changing-the-barrel


For now 6.8x43mm is not in production anywhere so 7.62x51mm can easily do the job until the late 2020s to 2030-31-ish.

Thus as long as you have different bore barrels for the Sig 716I, you have a readymade multicaliber gun. Looks like GPL treatment by then COAS (now CDS) forced the Indian Army to make the right choice!

I will post on the CQB Carbine RFI later.

 

[airstrike99]

LESSSSS GOOOOO.

 

[Lonewolf]

LESSSSS GOOOOO.
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It's going nowhere , percent of tot is too high ,also it ask for electric drive ,era and all ,t 14 can't make it through , something better than that is required ,army baboo can't make it happen .

 

[Haldilal]

Ya'll Nibbiars sorry to break some ones Khayali Pulao par abhi tanks Non Import list mein ane wale hai.

 

[Marliii]

Army should order this as it is only thing that can pass RFI