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1To those crying that IAF should have ordered X number of Tejas mk1 A . So far they have not finished the FOC production run which is waiting on imported systems . In which way could more mk1a s magically appear .. the wording of the committee statement seems that it is not possible for the Tejas to be inducted any faster in greater numbers.
 

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MWF will enter production in 2026. There is nothing new for significant changes like AMCA or TEDBF. We are already producing the prototype which will come at 2023 (Aero India maybe). Weapons for them also tested before like Astra etc. Radar is also undergoing testing. Unless HAL fucks up everything or IAF decided to ask DEW in MWF we can expect production start from 2026.
Mwf production starts in 2027, after min 3 years testing, then lsp, full production starts by 28 if there is no major issue. Also only nag complected tests with some issue, which is fixed by drdo. helina yet to start tests, iaf start test once hal hands over lsp lch to iaf. Ordering 36 more mk1a is good.
 

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It is never about SAAB or HAL capability. All the critical components like Engines, Radar, Armaments are available.
1. Engine - Already purchased.
2. Uttam radar is undergoing testing.
3. Armaments - Readily planned and integrated with existing IAF birds, simply integrated with MWF.

Again unless HAL fucks up massively or IAF changes requirement this plane does not have any reasons to delay since it is simply a jacked up Tejas.
Its ADA responsibility to fix issue, hal only screw drive the jet, you can't blame everything on hal.
 

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Under the hood: DRDO to build a cargo UAV for Himalayan frontier

 
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1To those crying that IAF should have ordered X number of Tejas mk1 A . So far they have not finished the FOC production run which is waiting on imported systems . In which way could more mk1a s magically appear .. the wording of the committee statement seems that it is not possible for the Tejas to be inducted any faster in greater numbers.
By replacing Elta Radar with UTTAM radar.
 

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1To those crying that IAF should have ordered X number of Tejas mk1 A . So far they have not finished the FOC production run which is waiting on imported systems . In which way could more mk1a s magically appear .. the wording of the committee statement seems that it is not possible for the Tejas to be inducted any faster in greater numbers.
It's the other way around. Since the numbers of orders are very less, HAL will stretch the deliveries. Tejas Mk1a contract was signed only an year back. 3 years for delivery after contract signing is standard practise. HAL can't shut shop and supply chain ecosystem. Same reason why the mighty french and Dassault with decades of experience where rolling out just 8 Rafales per year until Indian, Qatari, and other deals materialised.

First step is to provide the domestic ecosytem with large orders. Not piecemeal like 20 here and 20 there. It's the only way to master the art of aerospace production for inexperienced desi contractors and supply chain ecosystem. Your logic is the same thing that is being put out by IAF, IA and babus - that first let the domestic MIC be as good as Western MIC and then we will order. It's because of below avg awareness about the challenges of engineering, production and supply chain ecosystem
 

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IAF MRSAM Mobile Launcher System (MLS)
Consists of launch control system (LCS) with 8 canisterised missiles, intra-fire unit comm system for comm with combat management system (CMS) & other necessary equip's, power supply etc
MLS comprises of
1.Towing Vehicle
2.Trailer Platform
 

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IAF MRSAM Mobile Launcher System (MLS)
Consists of launch control system (LCS) with 8 canisterised missiles, intra-fire unit comm system for comm with combat management system (CMS) & other necessary equip's, power supply etc
MLS comprises of
1.Towing Vehicle
2.Trailer Platform
Why not just make it more compact ?
 

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Why not just make it more compact ?
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This is the Army variant which is more compact and mobile. Airforce variant does not require it to be as relatively mobile and is based on a trailer and is usually a standalone system placed inside Air bases or areas that require SAM protection.
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IAF MRSAM in the process of being dismounted.
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Akash SAM in standalone mode dismounted from the trailer.
 

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This is the Army variant which is more compact and mobile. Airforce variant does not require it to be as relatively mobile and is based on a trailer and is usually a standalone system placed inside Air bases or areas that require SAM protection.
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IAF MRSAM in the process of being dismounted.
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Akash SAM in standalone mode dismounted from the trailer.
Now this puts the question of why Akash NG?

MRSAM is Barak 8 and E-MRSAM will be fulfilled by either Extended Barak 8 or XRSAM (me believes it will be ex-barak 8).
Already Kalyani- Rafael JV is making about 1000 missile for IAF.

it only makes sense for Akash NG to replace s125 and to make up for the mobility of akash 1s. the airframe (NG) is a potential MRSAM.

Akash NG will most likely replace s125 and will be modified to become the 150km missile in the XRSAM system
 
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Now this puts the question of why Akash NG?

MRSAM is Barak 8 and E-MRSAM will be fulfilled by either Extended Barak 8 or XRSAM (me believes it will be ex-barak 8).
Already Kalyani- Rafael JV is making about 1000 missile for IAF.

it only makes sense for Akash NG to replace s125 and to make up for the mobility of akash 1s. the airframe (NG) is a potential MRSAM.

Akash NG will most likely replace s125 and will be modified to become the 150km missile in the XRSAM system
Ng can act as standalone system too ,plus bit cheaper than your barak 8 , and offers future improvement opportunity , integration ease with indian subsystem , better export potential
 

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Does arjun mk1a offer better turret protection than t90/72 ?

as we have seen in recent war that turrets were popping off ?
 
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