Civil war in Ukraine

[sgarg]

The economic model in Russia is very bad. She is very corrupt. It is not developed. This commodity economy. In Ukraine, a similar economic structure too. Only there is no have a large number of hydrocarbons.

Why you say so? Can you present real data??

 

[Akim]

Ukrainians need to come out of this transaction bloodshed model. You people are stuck in an ever increasing cycle of bloodshed. Where is the end??
@Ray is asking you what is your endgame. You must stop blaming Putin. Putin did not cause the events in Kiev. Maybe Yanukovich did something. But Ukrainians who think Yanukovich as Moscow's rubber stamp are simply wrong. Yanukovich was Ukraine's product just as Poroshenko is.

Yanukovych made a sudden turn and outraged part of the country. However, it was our internal problems. Putler seized the Crimea, and it became international relations.

 

[Akim]

Why you say so? Can you present real data??

Why? Tell me what competitive manufactures in Russia? Its products are not buying even Ukraine, Belarus and Kazakhstan.

 

[sgarg]

Why? Tell me what competitive manufactures in Russia? Its products are not buying even Ukraine, Belarus and Kazakhstan.

This is an opinion. I asked for data.

Russia accounts for some 48% of Belarus' external trade. Belarus accounts for around 6% of Russia's trade.

http://www.regionalstudies.org/uploads/Limonov.pdf

The PDF shows that Russia exports more to Kazakstan compared to its imports. The mutual trade volume exceeds 12 billion USD in 2011.

These figures show considerable trade which cannot happen if Russian products were non-competitive.

 

[sgarg]

Yanukovych made a sudden turn and outraged part of the country. However, it was our internal problems. Putler seized the Crimea, and it became international relations.

Do you think Russia can do anything else? If Ukraine joins EU than Crimea cannot be part of Ukraine. It is very clear.

 

[Ray]

Why? Tell me what competitive manufactures in Russia? Its products are not buying even Ukraine, Belarus and Kazakhstan.

One can buy if one has money.

Does Ukraine have any money? Its gold has vanished.

China is buying Russia aircraft and Russian oil and so is Vietnam with aircraft and submarines.

Arms sale is big money

 

[Ray]

Why all network build of himself the great analysts? Personally, I have two higher educations. I am the Expert/Spechialist on weapons and Master of Politology. However, I'm not trying to insist on their point of view. I don't pay money for it, so you all may say. As you want - and think. Your opinion still doesn't change the course of history.

I hold degrees too.

I am an Expert in warfare and a specialist in strategic affairs.

No one's opinion can change history, but God has given all a brain and that is to be used to analyse, given the situation and circumstances unflolding.

One cannot just sit back as a fatalist and think that things will evolve themselves and all will be well.

 

[Ray]

Akim is right. If you give Putin east Ukraine, he will take it and then ask for more. Thats how they are. Putin has already showed that agreements mean nothing to him.

He may be right, but then East Ukraine is all but gone.

 

[Akim]

This is an opinion. I asked for data.

Russia accounts for some 48% of Belarus' external trade. Belarus accounts for around 6% of Russia's trade.

http://www.regionalstudies.org/uploads/Limonov.pdf

The PDF shows that Russia exports more to Kazakstan compared to its imports. The mutual trade volume exceeds 12 billion USD in 2011.

These figures show considerable trade which cannot happen if Russian products were non-competitive.

Fuf. I asked you in reality, not these ebannye figures. Russia exports only the energy and the better the technology, the less a country is buying Russian natural gas.
Ukraine in 2008 bought 40 billion cubic meters, and in 2013 - 26 billion cubic meters, without reducing production.

 

[Akim]

One can buy if one has money.

Does Ukraine have any money? Its gold has vanished.

China is buying Russia aircraft and Russian oil and so is Vietnam with aircraft and submarines.

Arms sale is big money

This Soviet design.

 

[ghost]

@Akim sir, three question for you:

1 I would like you to answer the question ,which has been raised many a times but you fail to give a clear answer.What is the final military objective of Ukraine ,and to what extent it is willing to go for it?Of-course you are not in government that you can predict an official line,but being an Ukrainian ,I think you are in a better position than rest of us to give a clear picture .Will you go for Crimea ,I have heard Mr Porshenko say that Ukraine will take back Crimea.

2 You proclaim to be a weapon expert,can you tell me what weapons is Ukraine lacking right now ,which if provided could turn the tide of war in your favor(beside nuclear).Even though you are not a strategist ;being a military expert can you highlight the cause of poor performance of Ukraine military.

3 Do you really believe !you can win.

 

[Akim]

Do you think Russia can do anything else? If Ukraine joins EU than Crimea cannot be part of Ukraine. It is very clear.

They will return only when Putler die, or when Russia would face economic collapse, as in the USSR.

 

[Akim]

@Akim sir, three question for you:

1 I would like you to answer the question ,which has been raised many a times but you fail to give a clear answer.What is the final military objective of Ukraine ,and to what extent it is willing to go for it?Of-course you are not in government that you can predict an official line,but being an Ukrainian ,I think you are in a better position than rest of us to give a clear picture .Will you go for Crimea ,I have heard Mr Porshenko say that Ukraine will take back Crimea.

2 You proclaim to be a weapon expert,can you tell me what weapons is Ukraine lacking right now ,which if provided could turn the tide of war in your favor(beside nuclear).Even though you are not a strategist ;being a military expert can you highlight the cause of poor performance of Ukraine military.

3 Do you really believe !you can win.

1. The military objective is to return the occupied part of the Donbass. Crimea can be returned only in an economic way.
2. Not enough: new ATGM, light armored vehicles, sniper rifles, locators artillery reconnaissance.
3. Believe

 

[Ray]

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The manner in which things are happening, it reminds me of the Golan Heights and areas that Israel has captured and kept.

One wonders if Russia will return such a strategic gain as Crimea, whether the boss is Putin or Shootin.

 

[ghost]

1. The military objective is to return the occupied part of the Donbass. Crimea can be returned only in an economic way.
2. Not enough: new ATGM, light armored vehicles, sniper rifles, locators artillery reconnaissance.
3. Believe

Sir,

1 You missed the part,to which extent you are willing to go?A full scale war with Russia.

2 Why West and NATO are not providing you with these,when they have huge surplus stock of these.US provided Israel with a huge stock of free weapons ,when they were at war. They are your friends .

3 Good.

 

[Akim]

Sir,

1 You missed the part,to which extent you are willing to go?A full scale war with Russia.

2 Why West and NATO are not providing you with these,when they have huge surplus stock of these.US provided Israel with a huge stock of free weapons ,when they were at war. They are your friends .

3 Good.

1. Ukraine ready to repel a full-scale aggression. It has a strong air defense, aviation. In the free Donbass built three lines of defense. To overcome Russia can only use tactical nuclear weapons. Understand, the Ukrainian army can release the Donbass if you go the way of Russia in Chechnya and to erase the citys. This war - war special forces.
2. I don't know. Not my level.

 

[sgarg]

Fuf. I asked you in reality, not these ebannye figures. Russia exports only the energy and the better the technology, the less a country is buying Russian natural gas.
Ukraine in 2008 bought 40 billion cubic meters, and in 2013 - 26 billion cubic meters, without reducing production.

What is "in reality" for you.

Russia's Trade Indicators at a Glance (2010)

Current Account Balance: US$181.7 billion or 4.9% of GDP

Trade to GDP Ratio: 43.3%


Total value of exports: US$429.4 billion

Primary exports: oil, natural gas, metals, timber

Primary exports partners: EU (44.8%), United States (6.0%), China (5.8%), Turkey (4.9%), Ukraine (3.7%)


Total value of imports: US$247.7 billion

Primary imports: machinery, transport equipment, plastics, medicines, iron and steel, consumer goods, meat

Primary imports partners: EU (50.2%), China (14.1%), Ukraine (5.3%), Japan (3.8%), Belarus (3.4%)

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The imports make up around 12% of Russian GDP. This IS LOW DEPENDENCE ON IMPORTS.

 

[sgarg]

Russia Balance of Trade:

Russia Balance of Trade | 1997-2014 | Data | Chart | Calendar | Forecast

The figure for September 2014 is 12953 M USD or almost 13 billion USD positive. This figure proves that Russia IS NOT hurting badly despite sanctions and low prices for commodities.

The problem is elsewhere - in capital account, that is movement of capital outside Russia. But this is one area where Russian government can do a lot (if it wants).

 

[Akim]

What is "in reality" for you.

Russia's Trade Indicators at a Glance (2010)

Current Account Balance: US$181.7 billion or 4.9% of GDP

Trade to GDP Ratio: 43.3%


Total value of exports: US$429.4 billion

Primary exports: oil, natural gas, metals, timber

Primary exports partners: EU (44.8%), United States (6.0%), China (5.8%), Turkey (4.9%), Ukraine (3.7%)


Total value of imports: US$247.7 billion

Primary imports: machinery, transport equipment, plastics, medicines, iron and steel, consumer goods, meat

Primary imports partners: EU (50.2%), China (14.1%), Ukraine (5.3%), Japan (3.8%), Belarus (3.4%)

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The imports make up around 12% of Russian GDP. This IS LOW DEPENDENCE ON IMPORTS.

Then explain why prices for food and consumer goods in Russia are growing? About medications I agree. Ukraine imports a large part of the drug from Russia.
P.S.
If Russia is so good, why is the dollar so much increased?

 

[sgarg]

1. Ukraine ready to repel a full-scale aggression. It has a strong air defense, aviation. In the free Donbass built three lines of defense. To overcome Russia can only use tactical nuclear weapons. Understand, the Ukrainian army can release the Donbass if you go the way of Russia in Chechnya and to erase the citys. This war - war special forces.
2. I don't know. Not my level.

Are you sure your soldiers will not turn back and run away when under strong fire.

The fact is that your army is losing to separatists since August. Your military is abandoning positions.