Civil war in Ukraine

[Akim]

I was seeing in the Syria thread how the ISIS were operating Ack-Ack guns.

So, the NovoRossiyan militia also have some heavy weapons, and nobody denies that some of that came from Russia. However, Kiev regime supporters continue to peddle the myth of a Russian invasion. What do they think about Syria? Do they think there is an American, just because ISIS has some heavy weapons?

I understand that you do not want to believe. Are you a fan of the USSR and Russia.
Want me tell you about the army ?. On the territory of Donbass, before the war, there no was a large army units. Even now, the rest of the Ukraine, there is a "lack of personnel" officers small and middle link. Zakharchenko and Givi, can afford to hang straps colonel and major, but to become an officer, (even a second lieutenant). should be study theory at least a year. You can not be called a scientist, when screwed on to the bank of Coca-Cola, the wheels Therefore, all command carried Russian officers. Even America's colonial army could not defeat the British 240 years ago, yet they have helped the professional military of France. Now - even more so. 2/3 militants from Russia. Some of them are fighting for the idea of someone for money. If Donbass remains part of Ukraine - what idea? Mercenaries will leave for Syria. Military equipment taken away back to Russia. Putin - acts of fascist tactics - blitzkrieg. Crimea, Donbass, Syria. If blitzkrieg failed, he did not pull a protracted military campaign.

 

[pmaitra]

I understand that you do not want to believe. Are you a fan of the USSR and Russia. Want me tell you about the army ?. On the territory of Donbass, before the war, there no was a large army units. Even now, the rest of the Ukraine, there is a "lack of personnel" officers small and middle link. Zakharchenko and Givi, can afford to hang straps colonel and major, but to become an officer, (even a second lieutenant)
should be study theory at least a year. You can not be called a scientist, when screwed on to the bank of Coca-Cola, the wheels Therefore, all command carried Russian officers. Even America's colonial army could not defeat the British 240 years ago, yet they have helped the professional military of France. Now - even more so. 2/3 militants from Russia. Some of them are fighting for the idea of someone for money. If Donbass remains part of Ukraine - what idea? Mercenaries will leave for Syria. Military equipment taken away back to Russia. Putin - acts of fascist tactics - blitzkrieg. Crimea, Donbass, Syria. If blitzkrieg failed, he did not pull a protracted military campaign.

Ok, so you are saying that the ISIS is or has actually US soldiers, assuming you are applying the same logic you used here for the NovoRossiyans?

 

[Akim]

Ok, so you are saying that the ISIS is or has actually US soldiers, assuming you are applying the same logic you used here for the NovoRossiyans?

In Syria - religious wars. What are the fundamental differences between Russia and Ukraine?

 

[pmaitra]

In Syria - religious wars. What are the fundamental differences between Russia and Ukraine?

(Nazis-Fascism + NATO + oligopoly) versus (Russkyi Mir + Socialism + Orthodoxy)

Anyway, check PM.

 

[Akim]

(Nazis-Fascism + NATO + oligopoly) versus (Russkyi Mir + Socialism + Orthodoxy)

Anyway, check PM.

I'm tired of you. What is socialism in Russia?

 

[pmaitra]

I'm tired of you. What is socialism in Russia?

Not Russia. I was talking about NovoRossiayns. Russia is a capitalist state.

Many of the NovoRosisyans believe in Socialism. Some of them fly the Soviet flag. There is one commander whose call sign is Communist.

 

[Akim]

Not Russia. I was talking about NovoRossiayns. Russia is a capitalist state.

Many of the NovoRosisyans believe in Socialism. Some of them fly the Soviet flag. There is one commander whose call sign is Communist.

Do not let me die of laughter.:biggrin2::biggrin2::biggrin2::biggrin2::biggrin2:

 

[pmaitra]

Do not let me die of laughter.:biggrin2::biggrin2::biggrin2::biggrin2::biggrin2:

Laugh, but please don't die laughing.

 

[Akim]

Laugh, but please don't die laughing.

House Zakharchenko before and after

Himself built? No, he captured it. Like several Infiniti and Lexus.

 

[pmaitra]

House Zakharchenko before and after

Any report on the bank balance of Chocolatashenko and "Nuland's Boy" Yatz before and after the putsch?

 

[Akim]

Any report on the bank balance of Chocolatashenko and "Nuland's Boy" Yatz before and after the putsch?

Rabbit professed socialism? Are you trying to justify the creation, the actions of other creatures.

 

[gadeshi]

Dreams Putin))) Here, no one has lost or won. Only Donbass suffered and many people died. Putin, however, lost to Ukraine, as a people who trust Russia. Now Russia - the enemy. The new military doctrine is indicated. If Russia will not support the militants financially, that their army will not.
Control of the region, would return to the country of Ephremov, and Akhmetov.
Naturally, it will not be TOMORROW.

So you should read Minsk-2 treaty text carefully respecting the paragraphs order

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[Akim]

So you should read Minsk-2 treaty text carefully respecting the paragraphs order

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The pro-Russian views were only three categories:
1. SOVOK (nostalgic for the USSR)
2. Losers
3.Te who receives Russian money.
You belong to which category?

 

[jackprince]

The pro-Russian views were only three categories:
1. SOVOK (nostalgic for the USSR)
2. Losers
3.Te who receives Russian money.
You belong to which category?

Watching Ukraine getting closer and closer to the state of being a failed state, I would like to ask who are the losers? Also, how much do you actually get paid and in how many international forum do you roam?

 

[gadeshi]

The pro-Russian views were only three categories:
1. SOVOK (nostalgic for the USSR)
2. Losers
3.Te who receives Russian money.
You belong to which category?

Yeah, yeah, a shout of misery...
You and your companions are pathetic.

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[Akim]

Watching Ukraine getting closer and closer to the state of being a failed state, I would like to ask who are the losers? Also, how much do you actually get paid and in how many international forum do you roam?

I do not get a penny for visiting this forum. Look at the date of my registration. Losers - those,, who achieved nothing for years of independence .. My father - sovok. For all the time in the Soviet Union, he had used two cars. During the years of independence - three new 1999 - ZAZ Tavria, 2004 - ZAZ Sens 2010 - Geely MK. .In Any country there is a category of people that longs for the youth and called -In our time was better.

 

[gadeshi]

I am successfull Senior software engineer, who earns enough money to be happy. You will never earn even 1/10 of this. I've been in 13 countries in Europe, some in Asia, including India.
So, I've seen enough "european values" to be pro-Russian.
Only the stupid losers like you can believe in "european paradise" and american democracy. But only shisophrenics can believe in ukrainian nationalistic ideas and artifically ctreated Ukraine itself.

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[Akim]

I am successfull Senior software engineer, who earns enough money to be happy. You will never earn even 1/10 of this. I've been in 13 countries in Europe, some in Asia, including India.
So, I've seen enough "european values" to be pro-Russian.
Only the stupid losers like you can believe in "european paradise" and american democracy. But only shisophrenics can believe in ukrainian nationalistic ideas and artifically ctreated Ukraine itself.

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I lacked the money earned. I did not mean to Europe and did not want to Russia. I was all arranged, as long as Russia invaded Crimea.

 

[Cadian]

Some news from Ukrainian rolling madhouse:

Top Ukraine official backs idea 'to help ISIS take revenge on Russian soldiers in Syria’
Published time: 7 Oct, 2015 08:46 Edited time: 7 Oct, 2015 09:08

Anton Gerashchenko, adviser to Ukraine's Interior Minister © Alexandr Maksimenko / RIA Novosti
said he received a message on Facebook which said that “Russian propaganda channels” and Russian army in almost every report “show off” their military personnel in Syria.

The post, as well as Gerashchenko’s Facebook page, are currently unavailable. An image of the post can be viewed, however, thanks to a screenshot.

© Anton Gerashchenko / Facebook

“I think that their faces [on TV] will be enough, so that Islamic State militants and their supporters in Russia, the majority of whom are in the Caucasus region, could then find them and take revenge [on them] under Sharia law,” the Facebook user wrote to Gerashchenko.

Gerashchenko, who also attached an RT video showing Russian military jets in Syria in his post, seemed to be inspired by the idea. He urged everyone who has any information about Russian servicemen fighting ISIS in Syria to report the data on the volunteer-made Mirotvorec (Peacekeeper) website. For such information, there would be a special section, entitled “Putin’s crimes in Syria and Middle East.”

The majority of Gerashchenko’s Facebook friends supported the idea, calling it “brilliant” and “effective.” However, not everyone got motivated by such a call.

“Anton [Gerashchenko] is already supporting Islamic State?” “Has Ukraine already solved its own problems” “Anton Gerashchenko, are you nuts?” asked users in the comments under the post.

The Mirotvorec (Peacekeeper) website, which is supported by Gerashchenko, posts very thorough data on anyone who oppose the current Kiev authorities – journalists, activists, MPs and, of course, self-defense forces fighting against the government in eastern Ukraine. They are all labeled “terrorists” or “supporters of federalization.”

The personal information include their addresses, social media account links, a substantial biography and any mentions in the Ukrainian press. It has its own social media account, which frequently tweets cryptic messages of “successful missions.”

Several of those mentioned on the website, with the most high-profile ones like opposition politician Oleg Kalashnikov and opposition journalist Oles Buzina, were killed shortly after their personal details turned up on the website.

https://www.rt.com/news/317849-ukrainian-russia-isis-revenge/

I would really enjoy to hear democratic explanations from @jouni

 

[gadeshi]

I lacked the money earned. I did not mean to Europe and did not want to Russia. I was all arranged, as long as Russia invaded Crimea.

Then you should read the UN Manifest to learn what is referendum, how can it be held and what recognition it should receive (no recognition required). Crimeans vote against nazistic Ukraine and wanted to to go home to Russia. There is nothing to discuss.