Civil war in Ukraine

[apple]

Let me send you to Wikipedia to close gaps in your education:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kievan_Rus'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rurik_dynasty

Thanks for the links.

Although, I'm not here to learn Russian History. Too many know it all bigmouths (I'm not talking about about you)

Do not let me die of laughter.:biggrin2::biggrin2::biggrin2::biggrin2::biggrin2:

The funniest part is he has no idea about what he thinks he supports. To him, Engel's is the name of a Russian airforce base

 

[Akim]

Then you should read the UN Manifest to learn what is referendum, how can it be held and what recognition it should receive (no recognition required). Crimeans vote against nazistic Ukraine and wanted to to go home to Russia. There is nothing to discuss.

Do not repeat the nonsense of Russian propaganda, because you cease to be respected. Where have you seen the Nazis in Kharkov? Two dozen pravosekov.

 

[gadeshi]

Do not repeat the nonsense of Russian propaganda, because you cease to be respected. Where have you seen the Nazis in Kharkov? Two dozen pravosekov.

A main nazi leader Andrey Beletskiy is from Kharkov, as Gerashenko as well.
I'd seen nazis torch marches on Sumskaya st. and WW2 veterans beat sessions and many other scumm.
But nazism is not criminals cosplaying Hitler.
Nazism is internal and extetnal politics moves and strategy our government holds.

About referendums: noone respect your ignorance and hubris. But everyone respect UN main documents. Your words are just blah, but UN docs have rock-steady meanings and legal power.

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[Cadian]

A main nazi leader Andrey Beletskiy is from Kharkov, as Gerashenko as well.
I'd seen nazis torch marches on Sumskaya st. and WW2 veterans beat sessions and many other scumm.
But nazism is not criminals cosplaying Hitler.
Nazism is internal and extetnal politics moves and strategy our government holds.

About referendums: noone respect your ignorance and hubris. But everyone respect UN main documents. Your words are just blah, but UN docs have rock-steady meanings and legal power.

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I'm agreed in general, but I think we should use some other terms instead of Nazism and Fascism in case of Ukraine, because they are insufficient to describe this bloody hateful circus.

But the problem is - I don't know such words.

 

[Akim]

A main nazi leader Andrey Beletskiy is from Kharkov, as Gerashenko as well.
I'd seen nazis torch marches on Sumskaya st. and WW2 veterans beat sessions and many other scumm.
But nazism is not criminals cosplaying Hitler.
Nazism is internal and extetnal politics moves and strategy our government holds.

About referendums: noone respect your ignorance and hubris. But everyone respect UN main documents. Your words are just blah, but UN docs have rock-steady meanings and legal power.

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Gerashchenko Nazi? Can anti-Communist? What is its National Socialism? You do not like nationalists. I do not like them too. However, do not confuse nationalism with the Nazis.
About pseudo-referendum in the Crimea, I do not want to discuss.

 

[gadeshi]

Another humor about Gerashenko:

 

[gadeshi]

Putins charge paintings exgibition:

 

[gadeshi]

This time on Kiev streets and squares:

 

[gadeshi]

Another one piece of humor:

and a serious thoughts about:
http://cont.ws/post/129587?_utl_t=fb
http://cont.ws/post/130846?utm_camp...tesen&utm_medium=news&from=mirtesen&_utl_t=fb

 

[jouni]

Some news from Ukrainian rolling madhouse:

Top Ukraine official backs idea 'to help ISIS take revenge on Russian soldiers in Syria’
Published time: 7 Oct, 2015 08:46 Edited time: 7 Oct, 2015 09:08

Anton Gerashchenko, adviser to Ukraine's Interior Minister © Alexandr Maksimenko / RIA Novosti
said he received a message on Facebook which said that “Russian propaganda channels” and Russian army in almost every report “show off” their military personnel in Syria.

The post, as well as Gerashchenko’s Facebook page, are currently unavailable. An image of the post can be viewed, however, thanks to a screenshot.

© Anton Gerashchenko / Facebook

“I think that their faces [on TV] will be enough, so that Islamic State militants and their supporters in Russia, the majority of whom are in the Caucasus region, could then find them and take revenge [on them] under Sharia law,” the Facebook user wrote to Gerashchenko.

Gerashchenko, who also attached an RT video showing Russian military jets in Syria in his post, seemed to be inspired by the idea. He urged everyone who has any information about Russian servicemen fighting ISIS in Syria to report the data on the volunteer-made Mirotvorec (Peacekeeper) website. For such information, there would be a special section, entitled “Putin’s crimes in Syria and Middle East.”

The majority of Gerashchenko’s Facebook friends supported the idea, calling it “brilliant” and “effective.” However, not everyone got motivated by such a call.

“Anton [Gerashchenko] is already supporting Islamic State?” “Has Ukraine already solved its own problems” “Anton Gerashchenko, are you nuts?” asked users in the comments under the post.

The Mirotvorec (Peacekeeper) website, which is supported by Gerashchenko, posts very thorough data on anyone who oppose the current Kiev authorities – journalists, activists, MPs and, of course, self-defense forces fighting against the government in eastern Ukraine. They are all labeled “terrorists” or “supporters of federalization.”

The personal information include their addresses, social media account links, a substantial biography and any mentions in the Ukrainian press. It has its own social media account, which frequently tweets cryptic messages of “successful missions.”

Several of those mentioned on the website, with the most high-profile ones like opposition politician Oleg Kalashnikov and opposition journalist Oles Buzina, were killed shortly after their personal details turned up on the website.

https://www.rt.com/news/317849-ukrainian-russia-isis-revenge/

I would really enjoy to hear democratic explanations from @jouni

It is called freedom of speech. You also had it brief time in the nineties. Try to dig your memory

 

[Cadian]

It is called freedom of speech. You also had it brief time in the nineties. Try to dig your memory

Very well my Finnish friend, good job justifying the young Ukrainian democracy!

I have only one petit commentaire - mr. Gerashchenko's personal page was banned by the Facebook administration in an hour after publishing this post. For supporting the terrorist organisation ISIS and public incitements to commit terrorist acts.

And I have a personal question to you - Do you really freaking lost a common sense or what?

 

[jouni]

Very well my Finnish friend, good job justifying the young Ukrainian democracy!

I have only one petit commentaire - mr. Gerashchenko's personal page was banned by the Facebook administration in an hour after publishing this post. For supporting the terrorist organisation ISIS and public incitements to commit terrorist acts.

And I have a personal question to you - Do you really freaking lost a common sense or what?

I am glad FB reacted. We also have our share of idiots. That is part of democracy. Road is long for Ukraine and missteps will happen. Like I said before :slowly democracy moves eastward.

 

[pmaitra]

Rabbit professed socialism? Are you trying to justify the creation, the actions of other creatures.

Quote me where I said that, or else have fun talking to yourself.

 

[pmaitra]

I do not get a penny for visiting this forum. Look at the date of my registration. Losers - those,, who achieved nothing for years of independence .. My father - sovok. For all the time in the Soviet Union, he had used two cars. During the years of independence - three new 1999 - ZAZ Tavria, 2004 - ZAZ Sens 2010 - Geely MK. .In Any country there is a category of people that longs for the youth and called -In our time was better.

Looks like you are too enamoured with the glitz and glitter of the west. Apparently, you people were sold a lot of fake dreams and "European Values."

 

[gadeshi]

This time in Ukraine - railway workers strike in Kiyev:

 

[Akim]

Looks like you are too enamoured with the glitz and glitter of the west. Apparently, you people were sold a lot of fake dreams and "European Values."

I'm in love with my country, but not in Russia or the West.

 

[Akim]

Quote me where I said that, or else have fun talking to yourself.

Short memory?

Any report on the bank balance of Chocolatashenko and "Nuland's Boy" Yatz before and after the putsch?

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[gadeshi]

I'm in love with my country, but not in Russia or the West.

You are fanatic idiot, that cannot and doesn't want to hear the voice of sanity.
And yeah, Ukraine is not a country. It is an artifically created territory with an artifically created ethnos and fake history. And it is now under external (American) control. It's not a country at all.

 

[gadeshi]

Another political humor from Ukraine:

 

[Akim]

You are fanatic idiot, that cannot and doesn't want to hear the voice of sanity.
And yeah, Ukraine is not a country. It is an artifically created territory with an artifically created ethnos and fake history. And it is now under external (American) control. It's not a country at all.

Suitcase - Station - Russia!
I am Russian by nationality and naturally speak Russian, but this is my country, and in all collaborators do not see it as part of Russia!