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Panic in Debaltsevo; National Guard flees; Poroshenko accused of treason

2/1/2015

Rada Deputy Taras Pastukh: The National Guard ran fromDebaltsevo in panic, abandoning the VSU to their fate.
МОЛНИЯ! Депутат ВР Тарас Пастух:Нацгвардия в панике бежала из Дебальцево, бросив ВСУ на произвол судьбы

Об этом только что сообщил народный депутат ВР (фракция «Самопомощь») и непосредственный участник событий Тарас Пастух.

«Всем привет из пока что украинского Дебальцево. Только отбили штурм на базовый лагерь. Ранее до него с трудом доставала артиллерия, а сегодня уже пришла вражеская пехота. Нацгвардия город покинула, чем открыла к нам доступ. Во всех блокпостах постоянные обстрелы и танковые атаки. Подкрепление к нам так и не прибыло. Оно зашло в АТО, но туда, где оно нужно, так и не дошло».


«Нас здесь оставляют, в то время, когда другие просто убегают», — добавил он.

Кроме того, он просит руководство страны о поддержке.

«Прошу вашей поддержки — донести, кому сможете, критичность ситуации. Возможно кому-то казалось, что я излишне паникую, поскольку президент заверил, что у него все под контролем. К сожалению, я ошибся лишь во времени, ибо не мог поверить, что на нас попрут с такой силой, а мы и в дальнейшем будем надеяться на соблюдение минских договоренностей и обсуждать, нужно ли вводить военное положение», — отметил нардеп.

По его словам, «это действительно предательство страны всем военным командованием вместе с нашим "žÐ¿Ñ€ÐµÐ·Ð¸Ð´ÐµÐ½Ñ‚ом"».
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LIGHTNING! BP MP Taras Shepherd: National Guard under fled in panic from Debaltseve throwing APU to fend for themselves

This was just informed lawmaker BP (fraction "Self-Help") and a direct participant in the events Taras Shepherd.

"Hello from the Ukrainian Debaltseve yet. Only repulsed the assault on the base camp. Earlier, before it barely got out artillery, and today came the enemy infantry. The National Guard left the city, than to open access to us. All checkpoints constant shelling and tank attacks. Reinforcements to us and did not come. It went down in ATU, but where it is needed, it never came. "


"We are left, then, when others just run away," - he added.

In addition, he asked the country's leaders for support.

"I ask for your support - to convey who can, criticality of the situation. Maybe someone thought I was too panic, because the president has assured that he has everything under control. Unfortunately, I made a mistake just in time, because he could not believe that trample on us with such force, and we will continue to hope for the observance of the Minsk accords and discuss whether to impose martial law, "- said the MP.

According to him, "this is really a betrayal of the country over the military command together with our "president."

Translated from Russian by J.Hawk

This statement was just issued by the Rada Deputy (Samopomoga faction) Taras Pastukh, who is a participant in the fighting.

"Greetings from the still-Ukrainian Debaltsevo. We just repelled an attack on our base camp. Earlier it could barely be reached by artillery, but today enemy infantry had arrived. The National Guard had left the city, thus leaving us open to attack. All blocking positions report constant shelling and tank attacks. We never received any reinforcement. It went to the CTO zone, but never went where it was needed."

"We are being abandoned here, while at the same time others are simply running away," he added.

He also asked the country's leaders for support.

"I ask for your help. Tell everyone you can about the critical situation here. Maybe someone got the idea I was excessively panicked, because the President had said that he had everything under control. Unfortunately, I was only wrong about the time, because I could not believe they would come at us with such force, while we continued to hope to abide by the Minsk Agreement and discuss whether a martial law is needed," noted the deputy.

In his words, "this is genuine betrayal of the country by the entire military command, including our so-called 'president'."

Translator's Note: As a quick reminder, Samopomoga is the party led by Lvov mayor Sadovyy and which includes Donbass battalion commander "Semenchenko" [Grishin] as one of its top members who, incidentally, is officially reported as having suffered a wound in the failed attack to retake Uglekorsk and is now licking his wound somewhere far away from the fighting--which gives him plenty of time for comparing notes with Yarosh. Is Pastukh engaging in empty rhetoric, trying to put pressure on Poroshenko, endorsing an overthrow of the "treasonous" president, or eyeing the possibility of Western Ukraine separating itself from the incorrigibly corrupt and inept Kiev?
 

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"Good Morning, Mr. President"--A Prelude to a Coup?

2/1/2015

Kiev, February 1. Good Morning, Mr. President

By YuraSumy

Translated from Russian by J.Hawk

The recent events in Kiev, specifically the Aidar demonstration, are interesting in that they represent the beginning of the next phase of Poroshenko's overthrow. Kiev will now have the presence of a group of armed militants up to 1000 members in size (plus the Right Sector) which will attempt a coup at the direction of the State Department.

The press leak suggesting that the head of the presidential security detail was complicit in an attempt to assassinate Mr. Parubiy is a link in the same chain. The only individual who can thwart the plan to assassinate Poroshenko is Geletey, therefore he needs to be removed or neutralized before the coup. This is getting serious.

It's nothing unexpected. What we saw today wasn't even a rehearsal. The agenda has been set, and the list of participants determined. Only the events in Zaporozhye give Poroshenko any chance of survival. If the MVD defends the president, the coup may fail. Mr. Poltorak, incidentally, is Poroshenko's creature, and one has to keep in mind that prior to taking over the MOD he was the commander of the National Guard, which is currently being commanded by his former deputy. So there are many variants here. Which means nothing has been decided yet.

Translator's Note: Parubiy, of course, is a legendary figure among the Maidan-afflicted, therefore any attempt on his life (real or imagined) is tantamount to national treason! Therefore if people close to Poroshenko are traitors...what about Poroshenko himself? Pastukh's accusation that the National Guard had panicked and fled Debaltsevo can also be seen as a link in the same chain, because it is an effort to discredit the National Guard and its Poroshenko-loyal leadership. Yarosh's courting of military and, presumably, MVD, commanders to become part of a "parallel General Staff" are yet another link. The "events in Zaporozhye" are the failed attempt by "activists" in that city to topple the local Lenin monument, which was thwarted by the police. Arguably for the first time since the Maidan.
 

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"We call on all commanders to rise up and start overthrowing the government."

2/1/2015

"The Battalion Brotherhood is Starting a National Tribunal":The "Volunteer Soldier Assembly" in Kiev demands Poroshenko's dismissal.

Translated from Russian by J.Hawk

On Sunday, February 1, a Volunteer Soldier National Assembly was held, with 500 militants who had fought on the Donbass.

"We call on all commanders to rise up and start overthrowing the government. The battalion brotherhood is starting a national tribunal", they chanted.

The militants, who arrived from the combat zone, told the Kievans at the meeting that their units had no financing, and are not supplied with weapons.

They demanded the introduction of martial law and changes to the security services (dismissal of the heads of the Ministry of Defense, Security and Defense Committee, GenStaff chief, and the Prosecutor's office). They also demanded that the MOD be audited, and counter-terror fighters be admitted as members to the OSCE mission and participate in the organization's meetings.

Their demands to the Verkhovna Rada included the impeachment of the President and the removal of legal immunity afforded to Rada members and judges.

The demonstrators announced they will hold a protest action at the walls of the GPU, then will go to the President's Administration and deliver a list of their demands to Poroshenko.

Several days ago another demonstration took place in Kiev. Its participants demanded that Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk be dismissed. The demonstrators were complaining about the rampant corruption and the byzantine tax system. Their slogans were formulated as follows: "Reform, or bullet to the head!" and "Senya, get to work, our patience is running out."

Translator's Note: So, contrary to the prediction by Rodzhers, it does not seem that Turchinov and Yatsenyuk are safe either. Who is safe? Avakov? Parubiy? Do the recent reports of the National Guard (reportedly still loyal to Poroshenko) bugging out of not only Debaltsevo but the still-safe Artemovsk suggest an effort to get to Kiev while Poroshenko is still the president?
 

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So Yanukovich did not toe the NATO line, and he was evicted by an armed coup.

Now Poroshenko is reluctant to toe the NATO line, and it is possible he too will be evicted, in yet another armed coup.

It is quite possible that the State Department and the US Embassy in Kiev are working full time in encouraging the Nazi thugs and criminal gangs to pursue their geopolitical goals.
 

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Russia is unable to finish even the corvettes, frigates. the submarines. They bring them down to the water, but the important elements of the electronics and optics there is not enough. Ukraine does not supply, and the West has imposed an embargo. Who knows, maybe they're from China buy. The sens of message: Russia is not able itself to provide high-tech products.
India and China will supply the electronics and optics. Do not worry. Ukraine thugs are not needed. Russia is already replacing Ukrainian and Western equipment from other sources.
 

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India and China will supply the electronics and optics. Do not worry. Ukraine thugs are not needed. Russia is already replacing Ukrainian and Western equipment from other sources.
Ok.

If India does not have Western technology - sell electronics.
 

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Posted by Graham Phillips. "At Motorola's birthday today! Hero 32 years old. Happy Birthday, Motorola!"

 

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Reporting from Lifenews. "Captured soldiers MAT: Our commanders fled Uglegorsk. Ukrainian security officials said that commanders did not even sent troops to search for the wounded and the dead. Ukrainian soldiers, captured in Uglegorsk, said that their leadership sent adrift on the front line. It has turned out to be the exclusive video LifeNews prisoners security forces. These records our TV stations broadcast militia DNR.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78tC23RFLtQ
 

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Several Russian terrorists killed in clashes with Ukrainian Special forces soldiers near Debaltsevo.

BREAKING NEWS: NYT reporting that US is seriously considering to supply Ukrainian Army with Javelin ATGMs to destroy the armour of Kremlin backed terrorists.
 

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Reporting from Dmitry Steshina and Alexander Kotz. "special correspondent Alexander Kotz and Dmitry Steshin transmitted from Uglegorsk, taking that provide a full entourage of thousands of groups APU. - Guys! My suggestion - put down their weapons and leave. You are fighting with the wrong. You have a chance to save his life. Surrender, and you will live.

 

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News from the best of the company commander RRT "Batman" Plastun. "Soldiers Army LC reinforce newly occupied positions. Accidentally or not, judge for yourself, but according to the local population now militia took exactly the position that during the Great Patriotic War took Red Army and APU appreciated by those that once held the Nazis. Although these positions and stronger guys, it does not mean that the fighting stopped. Constantly heard a strong cannonade and how we understand the words of the guys on other sites not continued attempts to occupy the commanding heights, despite the fact that they were well fortified. This is to ensure that as soon as possible to stop the shelling of civilian towns, particularly Stakhanov and Diamond. "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvdXjNkAbUc
 

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January 30 at the Press Club of the Novosibirsk Union of Journalists held a press conference I.Strelkova. In Novosibirsk Gunmen arrived for the establishment of a regional branch of the All-Russian movement "New Russia" in Siberia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy5DSIIQ5lo
 

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