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Rearmament will start. Ukraine has the pool of trained professional that cannot be denied. Even countries like India and China are slogging to develop an engine manufacturing that Ukraine has.
The only thing will be navigate short term absorb thr shocks and lay foundation for long term. All these will be dependent on good relations with the Bear.
There will be no more good relations with Russia. We are moving further and further away from it.

The best thing for Ukraine is to join the EU.

As to its security Ukraine should work with US, UK, Poland, Baltic states, and ither former Soviet bloc members in NATO. France and Germany are unreliable.
 

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Never is an inexistent word in Politics.
See India Pakistan despite going to war and the latter sponsoring Islamic terrorist, many times we tried to mend fences. Though we know it will never happen, sometimes you have to sit with people you may not like.
I did not say that there would be a complete divorce, but the mental (ментальный) break had already occurred.
 

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The best thing for Ukraine is to join the EU.

As to its security Ukraine should work with US, UK, Poland, Baltic states, and ither former Soviet bloc members in NATO. France and Germany are unreliable.
Actually all eastern state Poland Ukraine baltics should form a single entity to become viable and stand up to Russia. Erstwhile Polish empire
Joining EU is a no go for them, this is a failing alliance. As it is culturally most eastern European cannot digest the diktat of Western Europe.
You see friction Hungary Poland with Brussels each time
 
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Actually all eastern state Poland Ukraine batiks should form a single entity to become viable and stand up to Russia.
Joining EU is a no go for them, this is a failing alliance. As it is culturally most eastern European cannot digest the diktat of Western Europe.
You see friction Hungary Poland with Brussels each time
Joining EU brought a lot of economic windfall to Eastern Eiropean countries from the former Soviet bloc.

Between 1989 and 2020, estimates based on European Central Bank data show, the six ex-communist countries that recently reached advanced status received annual subsidies from the EU amounting, on average, to more than 1 per cent of GDP. A reward of sorts for dumping Soviet communism, EU subsidies have flowed at a similar rate to Poland, Hungary and Romania. Recent projections show that, over the next five years, EU subsidies to these countries will continue at an annual rate of about 1 per cent of GDP.
If the consensus forecast is right, Poland’s per capita income will top $17,000 in 2022, and it’s probably just a matter of time before it is accepted in the advanced club. Regardless of when that moment comes, the ex-communist states of eastern Europe have already established themselves as the greatest concentration of development success stories since the east Asian miracles.
 

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How much do countries benefit from membership in the European Union?

The main finding is that of substantial and positive pay-offs, with approximately 12% gain in per capita GDP.
Despite substantial differences across countries, there are clear indications that the benefits of EU membership have significantly outweighed the costs (except for Greece). An important question is to identify factors that allow countries to better exploit EU entry. Campos et al. (2014) began investigating this issue and their preliminary findings highlight the role of financial development (i.e., more financially developed countries growing significantly faster after EU membership) and, somewhat less surprisingly, trade openness.


 

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Rearmament will start. Ukraine has the pool of trained professional that cannot be denied. Even countries like India and China are slogging to develop an engine manufacturing that Ukraine has.
The only thing will be navigate short term absorb thr shocks and lay foundation for long term. All these will be dependent on good relations with the Bear.
.....That engine and transport aircraft business is a leftover of soviet era, the large initial investments needed to start the work was done in soviet era.
 

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Yes in COD black ops, it was revealed KGB sleepers were used to assassinate him
Wrong. It was a double bluff.

US Nukes in Turkey were obsolete and were stated to be decommissioned. They were moving onto SLBMs but did the entire drama to cover this up.

Kruschev was led to believe he had won a great concession but ended up getting a very moderate payout.
 
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