China Economy: News & Discussion

[SexyChineseLady]

Shenzhen subway, the Mate 60 pro with 1.4G speed... pretty scaring.

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And in Shanghai:
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WOW!

One, China has the best 5G coverage in the world -- basically like with HSR, the vast majority of 5G base stations are in China.

Two, amazing power for locally made chips in Huawei's phone. This is the beginning of the world's only fully integrated semicon industry where every level has a Chinese supplier.

The domestic EUV could be out very soon! Actually, there are at least TWO teams working on EUV How many countries can do this if banned from ASML? Really just two -- China and Japan. Netherlands itself cannot produce EUV without suppliers from around the world including China.

 

[SexyChineseLady]

If you want to see where China is going, there are so many drivers -- EVs and autos, C919 and airliners, Semicon, Solar, High Speed Rail, Nuclear Power, etc.

But shipbuilding is one of the original Chinese economic drivers that began in the 1980s!

It is a long road that put China on top with half of the world's orders in 2023:


But there is no time to be complacent. The next wave in Chinese shipbuilding is already being driven by Cruise Liners, Very Large LNG Carriers and Aircraft Carriers!

 

[Hari Sud]

Sometimes, ur vision is limited by ur purchase power. If u can't afford $2000+ gizmo, u don't know there is a little flying object, gaining 80% of market, and they would be little expensive to u.

‘Who owns this tower…… is it the bankrupt Chinese real estate company? If loans are not paid then it is likely to be vacated by them and auctioned.

 

[brational]

China is living on the mercy of western economies. CCP has done a tremendous blunder by Challenging their western masters. All semiconductors, Cheap Commercial Aircrafts, Cheap Sealiners and Firebox EVs and all utility less stolen tech will bite the Chinks back within a very short period of time. West has already started the decoupling process with CCP. 2024-25 will be an interesting period. CCP will try something sinister. Shortcuts to progress didn't do good to anyone. All arrogance, opression, bullying etc come with an expiry date.

Middle east and Africa will see bigger termoils. CCP is playing their filthy game in Saudi Arabia, poking Amrika's backyard, poking West in Africa.
Very scary times ahead.

Thanks to 11 Jingping, he is running the CCP destruction project secretly for India.

 

[rockdog]

‘Who owns this tower…… is it the bankrupt Chinese real estate company? If loans are not paid then it is likely to be vacated by them and auctioned.

Didn't you see the twitter? the DJI owns those towers, a little company has 80% share on civil drone market.

Of course, some hidden share is not counted:

A Chinese drone for hobbyists plays a crucial role in the Russia-Ukraine war


Inside the Mission: How DJI Drones Redefine Modern Warfare in Ukraine

Inside The Mission: DJI Drones Redefine Warfare In Ukraine

A recent video chronicles a clandestine Ukrainian drone mission aimed at decimating Russian military assets with the help of civilian DJI drones.

dronexl.co

I don't think they need to worry about loan of office monthly...

 

[SexyChineseLady]

China is living on the mercy of western economies. CCP has done a tremendous blunder by Challenging their western masters. All semiconductors, Cheap Commercial Aircrafts, Cheap Sealiners and Firebox EVs and all utility less stolen tech will bite the Chinks back within a very short period of time. West has already started the decoupling process with CCP. 2024-25 will be an interesting period. CCP will try something sinister. Shortcuts to progress didn't do good to anyone. All arrogance, opression, bullying etc come with an expiry date.

Middle east and Africa will see bigger termoils. CCP is playing their filthy game in Saudi Arabia, poking Amrika's backyard, poking West in Africa.
Very scary times ahead.

Thanks to 11 Jingping, he is running the CCP destruction project secretly for India.

Very strange post! Indians are saying that you are a good country only if you kiss the West's arse? How is trading with Saudi Arabia, South America and Africa "poking" the US?

You people are no longer colonized. The West is no longer anyone's master -- unless you want them to be.

BYD U9, C919, Adora Magic City Cruiseliner, Huawei Mate 60 Pro, SMIC 5/7NM chips, etc. are new economic drivers set up for coming decades. What is your plan besides hoping the West gives you things like F414 engines?

 

[SexyChineseLady]

Can't wait for when the Adora Magic City begins accepting passengers for its initial cruise next year! It will be such a massive event!

 

[brational]

Very strange post! Indians are saying that you are a good country only if you kiss the West's arse?

We don't kiss anyone. Kissing, licking and sniffing of arse fall under CCP's domain. Whenever CCP faces trouble first thing they do is Kissing and Licking.

How is trading with Saudi Arabia, South America and Africa "poking" the US?

CCP is trying to replicate NoKo game in Saudia.

You people are no longer colonized. The West is no longer anyone's master -- unless you want them to be

West, East, North, South no one was our master. You are saying that Japan was your master? CCP is your master indeed. You chinks are living as slaves of CCP. China is a CCP colony. But you guys never acknowledge that. It is called the Stockholm syndrome.

BYD U9, C919, Adora Magic City Cruiseliner, Huawei Mate 60 Pro, SMIC 5/7NM chips, etc. are new economic drivers set up for coming decades. What is your plan besides hoping the West gives you things like F414 engines?

We don't hope, we try to achieve everything with the highest standard with ethics and integrity. We value human beings and believe in Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam. We dont claim to be the owner of the world. See the difference!
Had we followed the CCP model, we would have been making better products than Byd, U9, C919, Cruiseliner, Hawahawai, Semicon Chips etc with stolen tech.

Listen chink, you need to understand that whatever you achieve in life, you will always be tagged as as a thief, bully, scammer and violator of human rights. No one respect you and nobody trusts you. This is what you have achieved as a country. A rogue nation.
Congratulations! You need to find Paklandi, Noko, Bangludeshi or Myanmarese forums to brag about your achievements based on stolen formula.

 

[FalconSlayers]

Behind all the feel-good propaganda by chinks onboard

 

[NutCracker]

Chinese wumao spammer maggots are selling 4G phone as 5G.

Their so called Huawei mate60 pro 5G sells for whopping 950$. It gives you 778g (300$) equivalent Geekbench score. While It's speed test never crosses 280mbps .

 

[SexyChineseLady]

We don't kiss anyone. Kissing, licking and sniffing of arse fall under CCP's domain. Whenever CCP faces trouble first thing they do is Kissing and Licking.


CCP is trying to replicate NoKo game in Saudia.


West, East, North, South no one was our master. You are saying that Japan was your master? CCP is your master indeed. You chinks are living as slaves of CCP. China is a CCP colony. But you guys never acknowledge that. It is called the Stockholm syndrome.


We don't hope, we try to achieve everything with the highest standard with ethics and integrity. We value human beings and believe in Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam. We dont claim to be the owner of the world. See the difference!
Had we followed the CCP model, we would have been making better products than Byd, U9, C919, Cruiseliner, Hawahawai, Semicon Chips etc with stolen tech.

Listen chink, you need to understand that whatever you achieve in life, you will always be tagged as as a thief, bully, scammer and violator of human rights. No one respect you and nobody trusts you. This is what you have achieved as a country. A rogue nation.
Congratulations! You need to find Paklandi, Noko, Bangludeshi or Myanmarese forums to brag about your achievements based on stolen formula.

One, you can only afford one engine program (Kaveri) while China has dozens. WS-10 is critical to national defense because it powers frontline fighters. You have only dependency on the good graces of foreigners. This would not be the case if you had a productive economy. No country will leave themselves this exposed if they could afford it. You could not.

Two, you have no new drivers in your economy other than hoping for China Plus One transplants -- most of whom are going to Vietnam, Mexico and ASEAN with Chinese suppliers.

EVs and even ICE cars are establishing themselves around the world and making China the world's top exporter of vehicles, C919 and ARJ-21 are worth over $1T in economic activities, the semiconductor ecosystem in China will soon be complete and will service the world's largest chips market. Add to those -- automation and robotics (where China is installing half of the world's robots), AI, nuclear, solar and wind energy, plus batteries and energy storage and you have China on the commanding heights of EVERY driver of the new economy

You have nothing but sour grapes and envy

 

[SexyChineseLady]

Behind all the feel-good propaganda by chinks onboard

China's PMI is actually on par with most of the industrialized world's and actually better than most.

There is a global recession and truth be told China always does better during global downturns. Most countries are only now clawing back what they lost in 2020-2021 -- except for China who grew even during the pandemic years when the US and India lost a quarter to a third of their economies

 

[RoaringTigerHiddenDragon]

Didn't you see the twitter? the DJI owns those towers, a little company has 80% share on civil drone market.

Of course, some hidden share is not counted:

A Chinese drone for hobbyists plays a crucial role in the Russia-Ukraine war


Inside the Mission: How DJI Drones Redefine Modern Warfare in Ukraine

Inside The Mission: DJI Drones Redefine Warfare In Ukraine

A recent video chronicles a clandestine Ukrainian drone mission aimed at decimating Russian military assets with the help of civilian DJI drones.

dronexl.co

I don't think they need to worry about loan of office monthly...

DJI does not have 80% share because of its technology or something unique. It is just that other companies don’t think much profit can be made from producing these for the retail market. There are 50,000 dollar industrial drones in the market already where the money is. DJI is just cheap with pretty ok battery power for retail markets - hardly a sign of advanced technology.
‘Also, stop posting photos - these can be faked. CCP and it’s companies like Huawei fake anything. If you truly want the outside world to believe your technology strengths, stop hiding behind the great firewall and open up.

 

[brational]

You have nothing but sour grapes and envy

Not exactly, we have everything to be proud of. Our nation has a great character, great culture and contributed greatly for humanity.
On the contrary Chinks are a bunch of thieves. Your sarcasm, jibes and emojis wont help you to get rid of your deeds i.e. theft, robbery and fakery.

Truth hurts and you will be called out. Go brag about CCP's fake achievements somewhere else.

 

[omaebakabaka]

They can't be scared when they are embargoed anyways just like with drones. Chinese mil drones like CH-3/4/5 and Wing Loong began their ascendency through US bans on drones to Middle East.

That's why I said major markets not mom and pop countries. Not even Singapore will step out of line....Only India and Russia are somewhat soverign and big in size as a market plus Iran to some degree if China can barter nuts/oil for chips.

 

[Azaad]

One, you can only afford one engine program (Kaveri) while China has dozens.

In glad you think it's all about affordability & not other factors. How many such programs did China have when it had a GDP of around 4 billion USD ?

WS-10 is critical to national defense because it powers frontline fighters.

If it's anything on the lines of AL-31 , which it is , it's junk grade. Can't tell you how happy India & the rest of the world is to find out that all your TFs are derived from this TF.

You have only dependency on the good graces of foreigners.

As long as China's around we needn't worry about being the bad books of foreigners. A big thank you to CCP & their slaves.

This would not be the case if you had a productive economy. No country will leave themselves this exposed if they could afford it. You could not.

So how did you survive the period when you didn't have an indigenous TF back in the day when your GDP was 4 billion USD . That's precisely how we'd see through this period.

Two, you have no new drivers in your economy other than hoping for China Plus One transplants -- most of whom are going to Vietnam, Mexico and ASEAN with Chinese suppliers.

The new drivers are again thanks to you . The more your relationships with the west deteriorates , the more we benefit along with the rest of the world. Which is why we're looking forward to the Chinese invasion of Taiwan.

EVs and even ICE cars are establishing themselves around the world and making China the world's top exporter of vehicles,

That's what we want. We want Zhongguo to capture as much of the western markets as you can. When gwailou companies start failing , gwailou will start boycotting you . Keep grabbing as much of their market share as you can . We're completely with you on this one .

C919 and ARJ-21 are worth over $1T in economic activities,

Wake us up when you start competing with Airbus & Boeing or even little Embraer in international markets , leave aside bagging orders against them .

the semiconductor ecosystem in China will soon be complete and will service the world's largest chips market.

*Yawn *

Add to those -- automation and robotics (where China is installing half of the world's robots),

With your TFR , you desperately need to . Perhaps those robots can also function as efficient consumers & citizens too , now that you've proved to quite useless in this regard.

AI, nuclear, solar and wind energy, plus batteries and energy storage and you have China on the commanding heights of EVERY driver of the new economy

Yes. We want you to keep expanding your markets especially in the west. Nothing infuriates gwailou more than someone putting their hands in his pocket especially if yellow man doing so . Japan in the 1990s is a good example of it .

You have nothing but sour grapes and envy

Au contraire Madame Butterfly , you've the watch . We've the time .

 

[Azaad]

China's PMI is actually on par with most of the industrialized world's and actually better than most.
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There is a global recession and truth be told China always does better during global downturns. Most countries are only now clawing back what they lost in 2020-2021 -- except for China who grew even during the pandemic years when the US and India lost a quarter to a third of their economies
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Sure. We trust all those figures put out by CCP including all those publications that blindly copy & paste their figures here. After all the Chinese are such a trustworthy race.

 

[KurtisBrian]

You have nothing but sour grapes and envy

Maybe they have nothing much and no powerful weapons to take revenge upon all those who took from them but someboy must.
Notice, many of the supposed "rich" in the US are fleeing to Florida and Texas, as far south as they can go yet remain in the USA.

Global warming? The supposed "rich" must not think so.

hundreds of reactors planned by the Chinese. for air con and factories or is it actually a hope of having heat?

 

[sameer3694]

She Rose From Poverty as China Prospered. Then It Made Her Poor Again.

Sun Junli is one of many small-business owners, the backbone of China’s economy, who lost everything to a change in government policy.

www.nytimes.com

Dayum, just because she unable to pay her loans due to losses, she cannot board a flight, book a hotel or even get on a train. Truly 1984 level Dystopian. I guess the next steps would be not allowing her to walk outside the house.

 

[Azaad]

Maybe they have nothing much and no powerful weapons to take revenge upon all those who took from them but someboy must.
Notice, many of the supposed "rich" in the US are fleeing to Florida and Texas, as far south as they can go yet remain in the USA.

Global warming? The supposed "rich" must not think so.

hundreds of reactors planned by the Chinese. for air con and factories or is it actually a hope of having heat?

What explains your presence in Canada then instead of glorious rising zhongguo?