AMCA - Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (HAL)

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Awesome . I can see may design similarities between AMCA Ans YF 23.




YF 23

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The design is getting more and more refined. I think we are going to phase a big problem in engine area once again because the proposed 110 to 120 KN thrust victor engine exist nowhere. Better we start working in this area as early as possible. We can think on Russian offer of derated AL31 engine to suite AMCA requirement. Best option shall be GE 414 uprated 116 KN engine with TW. However GE 414 has no TWC. I call need to be taken very soon. The most practical approach I can see is Russian derated engine. By the time that engine comes in, we may use GE 414 116KN variant without TWC.
 

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The design is getting more and more refined. I think we are going to phase a big problem in engine area once again because the proposed 110 to 120 KN thrust victor engine exist nowhere. Better we start working in this area as early as possible. We can think on Russian offer of derated AL31 engine to suite AMCA requirement. Best option shall be GE 414 uprated 116 KN engine with TW. However GE 414 has no TWC. I call need to be taken very soon. The most practical approach I can see is Russian derated engine. By the time that engine comes in, we may use GE 414 116KN variant without TWC.
 

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More Names:
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HAL Prahari (Guard)
HAL Mayavi (Illusion Creator)
HAL Kapotari (Eagle/Hawk)
HAL Dhumketu (Comet)
HAL Karna (Kunti's Elder Son)
HAL Kartari (Knife)
HAL Katyayiny (Knife)
HAL Kalantak (God of Death/Death Ripper)
HAL Kalki (Lord Vishnu's Final Incarnation)
HAL Keshari (Lion/King)
HAL Kohinoor (India's Famous Diamond)

And One of my own...
HAL Vayubali (Powerful in Wind)
HAL Vayuraj (King of Wind)
 

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@HariPrasad-1 , we need exact size of blade and engine radius to fit in AMCA. Size and blades of Al-37 is too big for AMCA! High melting point heat alloys, system with more blades and knowhow to decrease fuel consumption while in afterburner - if these things are not achieved, then K10 is just a dream. GE 414 EPE is suitable with 116 kN wet thrust.
 

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@HariPrasad-1 , we need exact size of blade and engine radius to fit in AMCA. Size and blades of Al-37 is too big for AMCA! High melting point heat alloys, system with more blades and knowhow to decrease fuel consumption while in afterburner - if these things are not achieved, then K10 is just a dream. GE 414 EPE is suitable with 116 kN wet thrust.
I do not say the same engine should be fitted. Russia has offered a down sized engine. We can work it out within few years. I agree that F414 is an ideal choice but It does not have TW. Now if US develop TW specially for us than it will be very costly and time consuming. So we have to make a choice. I think we should consider russian engine. Though they are not very reliable as GE series, but we may do a bit of compromise for bringing AMCA faster. GE is ofcourse good but has no TW.
 

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More Names:
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HAL Prahari (Guard)
HAL Mayavi (Illusion Creator)
HAL Kapotari (Eagle/Hawk)
HAL Dhumketu (Comet)
HAL Karna (Kunti's Elder Son)
HAL Kartari (Knife)
HAL Katyayiny (Knife)
HAL Kalantak (God of Death/Death Ripper)
HAL Kalki (Lord Vishnu's Final Incarnation)
HAL Keshari (Lion/King)
HAL Kohinoor (India's Famous Diamond)

And One of my own...
HAL Vayubali (Powerful in Wind)
HAL Vayuraj (King of Wind)
The problem with aircraft is that we dont create a lot of them, else we could have a series naming like ships
We have City class destroyers, Delhi, Koch, Bombay etc,
or the hill range class, like Sahayadri, Satapura etc
 

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The problem with aircraft is that we dont create a lot of them, else we could have a series naming like ships
We have City class destroyers, Delhi, Koch, Bombay etc,
or the hill range class, like Sahayadri, Satapura etc
Huh!! I didn't get what you said........................
 

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More Names:
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HAL Prahari (Guard)
HAL Mayavi (Illusion Creator)
HAL Kapotari (Eagle/Hawk)
HAL Dhumketu (Comet)
HAL Karna (Kunti's Elder Son)
HAL Kartari (Knife)
HAL Katyayiny (Knife)
HAL Kalantak (God of Death/Death Ripper)
HAL Kalki (Lord Vishnu's Final Incarnation)
HAL Keshari (Lion/King)
HAL Kohinoor (India's Famous Diamond)

And One of my own...
HAL Vayubali (Powerful in Wind)
HAL Vayuraj (King of Wind)
I think it won't be named before first prototype.
What about a new series of names
Names after months
HAL Shrawan/Sawan
HAL Ashwin
HAL Kartik(Commander of chief)
HAL Falgun(Reddish)
HAL Magh(writer of 'Shishupalvadh')

Name after seasons
HAL Vasant
HAL Grishma
HAL Varsha
HAL Sharad
HAL Hemant
HAL Shishir

or after great persons as per our tradition
HAL Nehru
HAL Indira
HAL Sanjay
HAL Rajiv
HAL Sonia
HAL Rahul
HAL Priyanka
we can put Gandhi after these names if needed.
 

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its about naming of planes
since there are lot of ships, we name them as per system
Carriers are with V
Destroyers as per citty names
Oh, then what should be the class for fighter? Name of birds? Whatever, I shall keep posting different names.
 

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I think it won't be named before first prototype.
What about a new series of names
Names after months
HAL Shrawan/Sawan
HAL Ashwin
HAL Kartik(Commander of chief)
HAL Falgun(Reddish)
HAL Magh(writer of 'Shishupalvadh')

Name after seasons
HAL Vasant
HAL Grishma
HAL Varsha
HAL Sharad
HAL Hemant
HAL Shishir

or after great persons as per our tradition
HAL Nehru
HAL Indira
HAL Sanjay
HAL Rajiv
HAL Sonia
HAL Rahul
HAL Priyanka
we can put Gandhi after these names if needed.
Nice try, but after naming HF-24 as Marut and LCA as Tejas, do you really think they will name it aftet months and seasons!!? No, that's not cool. Mythological names can be given like I had written HAL KARNA or HAL Jatayu; not like HAL GANDHI, HAL RAHUL, HAL MODI, HAL KEJRI....
 

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Abey yaar, AMCA ka naam Yumdoot rakh do.

Kala masand bhootiya Yumdoot.

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Kya farak padta hai?
Are haan....yehi to hai! Jhakaas word hai; mera dimaag mein ye ghusa kyun nahin!! Yes, enemies of India, piss in your pants, HAL Yamdoot is approaching towards your position to send you direct to Narak. Amen....
 
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Abey yaar, AMCA ka naam Yumdoot rakh do.

Kala masand bhootiya Yumdoot.

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Kya farak padta hai?
Are haan....yehi to hai! Jhakaas word hai; mera dimaag mein ye ghusa kyun nahin!! Yes, enemies of India, piss in your pants, HAL Yamdoot is approaching towards your position to send you direct to Narak. Amen....
 
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Nice try, but after naming HF-24 as Marut and LCA as Tejas, do you really think they will name it aftet months and seasons!!? No, that's not cool. Mythological names can be given like I had written HAL KARNA or HAL Jatayu; not like HAL GANDHI, HAL RAHUL, HAL MODI, HAL KEJRI....
I was thinking about counterpart of thunder, Lightening...
Should we follow these Vidhyut, Vajra, Vajrapat, Garjan, Tadit...
So, why shouldn't we use peaceful word... So came in mind name of season from them months...
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I wasn't thinking about proposing name, I just thought about our tradition which we had to follow & we are get rid of that... Naming everything after one family, just thought about stadiums for ISL & I came to know that out of eight, three are named after one person who didn't permit team when we had opportunity to play in FIFA while FIFA offered to bear whole expenses, that was Nehru & another named after Indira.
 

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Are haan....yehi to hai! Jhakaas word hai; mera dimaag mein ye ghusa kyun nahin!! Yes, enemies of India, piss in your pants, HAL Yamdoot is approaching towards your position to send you direct to Narak. Amen....
That came in my mind, Rajdoot, Agnidoot, Pawandoot, Jaldoot, Rashtradoot....
 

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That came in my mind, Rajdoot, Agnidoot, Pawandoot, Jaldoot, Rashtradoot....
I have posted some names in previous pages. Although I shall keep posting different type of names time to time, I think fighter name should be given based on air, light or any element, quality like 'Tejas'. My favourites are my own creation - HAL Vayuraj and HAL Vayubali.
 

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First, HAL Marut(Spirit of the Tempest)
Second, HAL Tejas(Radiant)
So, third must have have legacy of name like two, shouldn't have a limited meaning.

My choices aren't perfect but can give idea.
Name after birds/animals
HAL Mayur/Mor/Sarang(National bird)
HAL Chinkara(Blackbuck)
HAL Mrig/Swarnmrig(Antelope/Golden Antelope)
HAL Ulook(Owl)
HAL Saras(Crane
HAL Krauncha(Like Crane)
HAL Ajgar(Python)
HAL Rajhans(Royal swan)
HAL Paramhams(Ultimate swan)
HAL Pawanhans(Air swan)
HAL Takshak(King of nagas, used by navy for torpedo)
HAL Ashwasen(Son of Takshak)
HAL Jatayu
HAL Rishabha(Name of a bull)
HAL Sampati(elder brother of Jatayu)
HAL Vasuki(King of Nagas)
HAL Varaha


Names after great persons(meaning in bracket)
HAL Eklavya
HAL Abhimanyu
HAL Lakshman
HAL Shrughan(Destroyer of enemies)
HAL Nachiketa
HAL Kartikeya, Skanda, Murugan
HAL Hrishikesh
HAL Pradyumna
HAL Ashwapati(King of horses)
HAL Aniruddha
HAL Indrajit(Who defeated Indra)
HAL Govind
HAL Narasiṃha
HAL Satyajit
HAL Satyavan(one who speaks truth)
HAL Mitra(Friend)
HAL Satyaki
HAL Sugriva
HAL Uttanka
HAL Suman(Flower)
HAL Devavrat
HAL Uttar(North, Answer)
HAL Viswaroop
HAL Natraj
HAL Ashok
HAL Chanakya
HAL Chandra/gupta
HAL Rajendra(King of kings)
HAL Pratap(glory or splendour or dignity)
HAL Subhash
HAL Vallabh
HAL Chandrashekhar(who keeps moon on his head)/HAL Azad(Free)
Some fancy names
HAL Balwant(Strong)
HAL Abhinav(Innovation)
HAL Gaurav(Pride)
HAL Navyug(New Age)
HAL Vikram(Brave)
HAL Pallava(Not equivalent in English might be sprig, A dynasty of kings)
HAL Ranjeet(Winner of wars)
HAL Karamvir(one who completes all his work/duty)
HAL Utkarsh(Progress)
Name after precious stones/metals/items
HAL Kundan(Gold)
HAL Kanchan(Gold, used by navy)
HAL Kaustubha
HAL Panchajany
HAL Ananta-Vijaya(Shankha of Yudhithir, meaning infinite victory)
HAL Devadatta(Shankha of Arjun)
HAL Sughosh(Shankha of Nakula)
HAL Manipushpak(Shankha of Sahdev)
HAL Kohinoor
One who can disappear
HAL Vaital(May be Vampire)
HAL Yaksha(Kuber, god of money is king of Yaksha)
HAL Mayavi
HAL Indrajal(Indra's net, related to magic)
HAL Shaktiman(Truck came before serial)
HAL Aryaman(A character ca in Vedas & you know)
HAL Marich(Used by navy)
Suggested by other members but I liked
HAL Ananta अनन्त Unbounded one
HAL Vivasvat विवस्वत् The one who shines forth.
HAL Akshaya (Eternal)
HAL Antak (Destroyer)
HAL Arun (The saffron dawn of sun, Charioteer of god of sun, Uranus a planet)
HAL Apoorva ( Divine)
HAL Dhumketu (Comet)

I don't consider female names for fighter aircrafts(look like name of missile but there also we aren't using) except Prithvi, Sagarika.
HAL Ulka(meteor)
HAL Niharika(Nebula)
HAL Jwala(flame) many more..



All sugested till now
Ujjaval उज्ज्वल The Blazing One
Aditya आदित्य
Achyuta अच्युत Imperishable, The Steady One
Asmanabala असमानबलाय (The One of Unequalled Strength.)
Ananta अनन्त Unbounded one
Vishvarupa विश्वरूप The One with an All-Pervading Form (sounds like MRCA)
Ijya इज्य The One to be Revered
Vivasvat विवस्वत् The one who shines forth.
Eshvaryada ऐश्वर्यद The Bestower of Power
Alakshya
Alakh
Ajeya
Adrishya
Pavan
Pavanhans
Akrant(who can't be crossed)
Akhyat (Unhurt)
Akshaya (Eternal)
Agraj (Elder brother)
Aghor (Lord Shiva)
Achyut (Who can't be destroyed)
Adamya (Who can't be won)
Adrishya (Invisible)
Meghanaad (Ravan son could become invisible)
Adwait (No-one similar to him)
Adhiraj (Emperor)
Balram (Lord Krishna's brother)
Vasuki (King of snakes)
Antak (Destroyer)
Avatar (Incarnation)
Rakshak (Protector)
Avimanyu (Arjun's son)
Bhootnath (Ghostking)
Avrant (Error-less)
Amartya (Heavenly)
Arindam (Destroyer of Enemies)
Damini (Electric Surge)
Ashoka (Mourya Emperor)
Ayudh (Weapon)
Arun (The saffron dawn of sun)
Marich (Destroyer of the disease, a name of sun)
Arkya (The radiant, name of sun)
Savita ( the purifier)
Krishna Vikirana( Black Radiation)
Preta Garud (Haunted Eagle)
Krishna Mayura( Dark Peacock)
Apoorva Khag( Divine Bird)
Indrayudh (Vajra/Lightening)
Udayan (Risen)
Vinashak (Destroyer)
Indrari (Demon)
Ugrabij (Very Powerful)
Ulka (Astroid)
Rushav (Bull)
Prahari (Guard)
Mayavi (Illusion Creator)
Kapotari (Eagle/Hawk)
Dhumketu (Comet)
Karna (Kunti's Elder Son)
Kartari (Knife)
Katyayiny (Knife)
Kalantak (God of Death/Death Ripper)
Kalki (Lord Vishnu's Final Incarnation)
Keshari (Lion/King)
Kohinoor (India's Famous Diamond)
Vayubali (Powerful in Wind)
Vayuraj (King of Wind)
I have posted some names in previous pages. Although I shall keep posting different type of names time to time, I think fighter name should be given based on air, light or any element, quality like 'Tejas'. My favourites are my own creation - HAL Vayuraj and HAL Vayubali.
 

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or after great persons as per our tradition
HAL Nehru
HAL Indira
HAL Sanjay
HAL Rajiv
HAL Sonia
HAL Rahul
HAL Priyanka
we can put Gandhi after these names if needed.
i hope you are being sarcastic.
 

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