AMCA - Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (HAL)

[patriots]

India’s Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft Programme Gathers Steam With New Developments | Delhi Defence Review

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[porky_kicker]

That's a poor excuse , no space left . Who designed the aircraft . And was it not their responsibility to find a design ( which too more than a decade ) which offered more internal volume for weapons carriage. ADA was always retrogressive in their work . Less of scientists more of bureaucrats.

 

[fire starter]

That's a poor excuse , no space left . Who designed the aircraft . And was it not their responsibility to find a design ( which too more than a decade ) which offered more internal volume for weapons carriage. ADA was always retrogressive in their work .

Just look at FC 31 it also doesn't have side bays and AMCA is similar to it.

 

[patriots]

Just look at FC 31 it also doesn't have side bays and AMCA is similar to it.

If iaf is happy with that, we should not complain

 

[fire starter]

If iaf is happy with that, we should not complain

Any update about technologies that are being developed for AMCA.

 

[Okabe Rintarou]

Compared to previous designs the wings are swept back in my opinion.

The engine nozzle seems normal without any visible IR mitigation measures.

A prominent stinger now visible

Large stabilators , could mean a naval AMCA is possible later on

Since the pic is a top down , tail is not visible or have they omitted the tail ( tailless design - a study was funded for a tailless design ) , most probably it has a tail unless proven otherwise.

A single weapons bay reflects poorly on the designers , considering they had a decade to work on the design

Nozzle might still have a large volume of bypass air to cool temperatures, like Tejas. It won't lower IR signature to the extent that an like F-22 nozzle would, but such nozzles would limit 3D thrust vectoring to only 2D and would require a stronger engine (our weakness).

The larger stabilators and the swept back wings suggest that makes me think that the entire exercise was also done from the point of lowering wing loading. This is another enabler for carrier landings and take-offs. Also improves payload carrying capability when taking off from high-altitude airfields of Thoise, Leh and maybe even Nyoma (in the future).
But @FGFAPilot1 is right. The larger stabilators will provide some limited advantage in IR shielding of the engine, providing increase in side-aspect stealth. Same design feature in F-35, J-20 and Su-57.

On the contrary, I think side weapon bays exist. The Blue boxes next to the main wing's root at leading edge. But the length does seem a bit too short. Either way, I think its there.

 

[patriots]

Any update about technologies that are being developed for AMCA.

Now cad modelling of various aircraft parts are going.....on

 

[porky_kicker]

IAF did not complain when LCA was in the design phase , and after that we all know what happened.

Why stop with the Chinese , what about the Americans and others

 

[Karthi]

The picture from the presentation is of low quality , can anyone help me for finding the actual presentation .

From the picture they tried to make it more stealthy , the overall lifting surface is good , internal Weapons bay can carry three or four Missile's.

Moreover stealth is only required in the first one or two weeks , for supression and destruction of enemy radars stations , and then we need superior firepower to overwhelm the enemy , for that we need more Rafale and ORCA , we need to concentrate more on netcentric, stealth, EW capabilities and controlling a swarm of Drones through sensor networks of AMCA , super Sukhoi , Rafale and ORCA can act as Missile Trucks for AMCA.

 

[Suryavanshi]

IAF did not complain when LCA was in the design phase , and after that we all know what happened.

Why stop with the Chinese , what about the Americans and others

They are probably going for side bays in Mk 2 of AMCA. It's weight is still less than F 22 so it makes sense for now.

 

[Dessert Storm]

Any update about technologies that are being developed for AMCA.

Distributed Aperture System

AMCA Stealth Tech Expectations

 

[porky_kicker]

Amca mk2 as per reports will have engine replaced and change in avionics and possibly change in structural and fuselage materials . Very low chance of design change.

 

[patriots]

IAF did not complain when LCA was in the design phase , and after that we all know what happened.

Why stop with the Chinese , what about the Americans and others

Sir what I know that Iaf and Ada discuss regularly on amca....
Again sir having more weapons is an advantage
But I believe stealth means surprise
And once you fired a weapon that surprise factor is gone.......the enemy will know...then 4.5 gen fighter s with heavy load will do the rest of task
And sir you are knowledgeable ,so I can't argue with you
Bdw amca 1:1 model in making....we will know clearly...in aero india 2021

 

[Synergy]

But when you talk about 2050, you’re talking about a China whose economy is 2-times or, maybe even 3-times bigger than the US economy;

ott :

after this Wuhan virus episode and incoming recession, that shouldn't (won't) happen.

and we have a chance to cross Chinese economy around 2050/60.

 

[Suryavanshi]

The video is 1 year old but they have also shown only underbelly wepaon bay.
4× BVRAAM or 2 x bombs and 2 x BVRAAM.

 

[fire starter]

I am more concerned about payload and sub systems bcz rest other countries took much time to develop them. And what about f35 style EOTS is there any plan to develop it.

 

[porky_kicker]

Typo in my post in previous page

I meant to write tails ( not tail ) , same mistake multiple times in the post .

And the possibility of the stabilators as ruddervators when I mentioned tailless design

Was justst musing no need to take it seriously

 

[Suryavanshi]

Internal bay configuration was pretty much solidified long time ago.

 

[A chauhan]

Compared to previous designs the wings are swept back in my opinion.

The engine nozzle seems normal without any visible IR mitigation measures.

A prominent stinger now visible

Large stabilators , could mean a naval AMCA is possible later on

Since the pic is a top down , vertical tail is not visible or have they omitted the tail ( tailless design - a study was funded for a tailless design ) , most probably it has a tail unless proven otherwise.

A single weapons bay reflects poorly on the designers , considering they had a decade to work on the design

I also noticed the same aggressive wing swept. I wonder if they modify it further as they did with LCA for vortex. For single weapon bay, I don't think it has that much space as it is smaller than F-22 and J-20.

Where are the air intakes,and engines are kept direct behind the cockpit and weapons bay....

It has Serpentine DSI intakes.

 

[porky_kicker]

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