ADA Tejas Mark-II/Medium Weight Fighter

[IndianHawk]

Components for initial batch of mwf will already be tested.
Uttam aesa is being tested on lca lsp. Elta 2052 will be tested and integrated on mk1a and also already tested on jaguar.
Same for ew suite which will be properly tested on mk1a. Weapons integration with Uttam or elta 2052 will also be ready before 2025 as part of mk1a and jaguar Darin Iii upgrade program.

So mwf will inherit a lot of already ready and tested equipment with minimal tweaks. That is the benefit of having a testing infrastructure already in place. That way program can benefit from parallel testing of different components.

The only thing that can delay mwf is over ambition to bring amca tech into it. That is why they must freeze specifications of intial batch of 50 mwf in cold stone today and not change a word of it untill 50 mwf are orded and manufactured.

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[Kchontha]

Has the initial powerplant for mwf arrived?

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[patriots]

Has the initial powerplant for mwf arrived?

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We have already some gef414............
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[Prashant12]

Tejas Mk 2

To Replace IAF’s Upgraded Mirage 2000 Fighters!!

Still in the designing stages Tejas Mk 2 – a vastly improved version of the LCA Mk 1/1A – is being touted by HAL as an ultimate replacement to the Indian Air Force’s (IAF’s) Mirage 2000s being upgraded to -5 standards.

In the process, the Mark 2 variant of HAL’s Tejas LCA will see a transition into the Medium Weight category, from being an LCA as planned initially, with increased take off capability and more hard points to carry sophisticated weapons.

Notably, IAF not only readily accepted HAL’s MK 1A offer with some improvements over the Mk 1 version albeit with the same somewhat underpowered but has also supported its Mk 2 programme which was essentially meant for the Navy but rejected by it citing its unsuitability for meaningful carrier operations.

With the Mark 1 and Mark 1A earmarked to replace the perennially ageing, light weight MiG-21s and slightly heavier MiG-27s, the IAF is now rightfully demanding futuristic enhancements and diversification of Tejas into various stages through its Mark 2 variant.

Tejas Mk II project which was sanctioned in 2009 has continued to evolve with design parameters undergoing major changes in reviews carried out in 2014, 2017 and 2018, respectively. Powered by the 100 kN-class GE414 turbojet, the Mk II is envisaged to be 1350 mm longer, 300 mm wider, with internal fuel capacity of 3,300 kg and a payload of 6,500 kg on 11 hard points. In fact, with an AUW (All Up Weight) of 17,500 kg Tejas Mk II would have to shed its LCA (Light Combat Aircraft) nomenclature and move into the category of MWF (Medium Weight Fighter). The aircraft will also have state-of-the-art sensors/weapons/equipment mix such as, AESA radar, IRST, new cockpit, upgraded avionics, OBOGS, UEWS, MAWS and the latest strike weapons such as SCALP, Crystal Maze, Spice 2000 and of course, AAMs.

But more than anything else – as would have been noticeable to the observers visiting the HAL pavilion during AeroIndia – Tejas Mk II would also be sporting ‘Canards’.

Canards would not only result in all round improvement in aircraft’s performance and agility, it would lift the Tejas into the category of contemporary non-stealth Gen 4++ multi-role fighters with the likes of Gripen, Rafale, Eurofighter and Su-30/35, etc – a real game-changer for India.

Interestingly, canards were considered for the initial LCA design, but given up due to lack of confidence, especially after sanctions were imposed post India’s ‘Shakti’ nuclear tests in 1998. However, with the indigenously designed and perfected FBW (Fly-by-wire) system, ADA (Aeronautical Development Agency) feels it has the capability now to integrate the canards into the control system of the Mk II version of Tejas.

Be that as it may, it should be clear that designing and developing the Tejas in its new MK II canard avatar wouldn’t be a cake-walk and that it would call for single- minded determination, dedication and devotion to the cause to make it happen in the acceptable timeframes, lest the entire exercise fade into irrelevance due obsolescence setting in even before the project fructifies.

Needless to say, the fully developed and operationally produced Mk 2 version of the Tejas should become available to the IAF before it starts retiring its Mirage 2000s in the early 2030s.

https://www.indiastrategic.in/2019/...9BT1xwyOwQjnk-ArbzVf3oYh0v8x6t9chiXgJIKcOzSIs

 

[Kchontha]

Ex Naval chief opines on Tejas..

https://theprint.in/opinion/heres-w...ksha-mantri-to-personally-guide-tejas/241105/

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[cyclops]

I still think it's an uphill task & that Malaysia won't buy the Tejas simply because it has Israeli subsystems, but even if it does(which will be a righteous kick in the face of pakis) the deal won't be closed in 2019.

Malaysia More Inclined Towards Indian HAL Tejas Over Pakistani JF-17 Thunder – Reports
By EurAsian Times -May 29, 2019

Will Malaysia eventually purchase the Indian HAL Tejas over other competitors including Pakistani/Chinese JF-17 Thunder? According to the key sources, the Malaysian Government is quite keen on evaluating the HAL Tejas and is making a lot of enquiries which are being promptly answered.

India will get a strong foothold in South East Asia, in case Malaysia decided to buy the Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) ‘Tejas’ manufactured by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL).

Speaking to Financial Express on condition of anonymity, a top official has said that “There are various dimensions to the export of the LCA Tejas to Malaysia. In fact, the whole LCA programme will receive the much-needed boost, and HAL will get international recognition for its design capability and validation for its product.”

The product in itself would stand out from the competition as a technically superior product, said the source cited above. According to the source, the Malaysian export order will open up an array of opportunities for other platforms such as SU-30 and Advanced Jet Trainer (AJT) `Hawk’ which are being operated by other Southeast Asian countries.

Also, the helicopter market in these countries too is largely untapped. If LCA gets foreign recognition other HAL made products too will attract the attention sending positive signals in defence manufacturing in India, he adds.

Earlier this year, HAL had sent in two fighters to participate in the Langkawi International Maritime and Aerospace Exhibition (LIMA) 2019 in Malaysia for the first time. These were ferried with the help of the Indian Air Force (IAF) and had participated in the flight displays along with Indonesia’s Jupiter Aerobatic Team and the Royal Malaysian Air Force.

The South Asian country is in the process of assessing fighter aircraft from various vendors as it is planning to buy 36 light combat aircraft (LCA) in an effort to add on to its existing fleets in its air force.

Sources indicated the government of Malaysia is keen on the Indian LCA, and during the LIMA, the HAL stand had received several queries from the government of that country.

Besides India, Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF) which is looking for a low-cost light fighter jet has invited proposals from competitors including M-346FA Fighter Attack aircraft variant developed by Leonardo, Yak-130 combat trainer aircraft developed by United Aircraft Corporation of Russia and FA-50 light attack aircraft developed by Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI).

The first time `Tejas’ had an international exposure was during the Bahrain International Air Show in 2016. The LCA which is considered to be the world’s lightest supersonic fighter has already joined the IAF and has received the Final Operational Clearance on Feb 20, this year.

The IAF has inducted the Tejas into its Number 45 Squadron — Flying Daggers in July 2016. This squadron is flying the MiG-21 Bison fighters, one of which shot down a much-advanced F-16 of the Pakistani Air Force on Feb 27, 2019.

The Made in India LCA with the first advance Fly-by-wire (FBW) fighter designed, developed and manufactured by the Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) and HAL will replace the MiG-21s in the IAF fleet. This aircraft has a glass cockpit with Satellite aided Inertial Navigation System and is a 4 + generation fighter. This aircraft has a capability to fire Beyond Visual Range (BVR) missiles, bombs and precision-guided munitions.

It can also be refuelled mid-air which will increase its combat radius. The IAF is already keenly waiting for the newer version of the aircraft Tejas MK 2, the Medium Weight Fighter (MWF), currently under development.

https://eurasiantimes.com/malaysia-...ndian-hal-tejas-over-pakistani-jf-17-thunder-

 

[Indx TechStyle]

By EurAsian Times -

Well, it's a tabloid.
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[Suryavanshi]

I still think it's an uphill task & that Malaysia won't buy the Tejas simply because it has Israeli subsystems, but even if it does(which will be a righteous kick in the face of pakis) the deal won't be closed in 2019.

Malaysia More Inclined Towards Indian HAL Tejas Over Pakistani JF-17 Thunder – Reports
By EurAsian Times -May 29, 2019

Will Malaysia eventually purchase the Indian HAL Tejas over other competitors including Pakistani/Chinese JF-17 Thunder? According to the key sources, the Malaysian Government is quite keen on evaluating the HAL Tejas and is making a lot of enquiries which are being promptly answered.

India will get a strong foothold in South East Asia, in case Malaysia decided to buy the Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) ‘Tejas’ manufactured by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL).

Speaking to Financial Express on condition of anonymity, a top official has said that “There are various dimensions to the export of the LCA Tejas to Malaysia. In fact, the whole LCA programme will receive the much-needed boost, and HAL will get international recognition for its design capability and validation for its product.”

The product in itself would stand out from the competition as a technically superior product, said the source cited above. According to the source, the Malaysian export order will open up an array of opportunities for other platforms such as SU-30 and Advanced Jet Trainer (AJT) `Hawk’ which are being operated by other Southeast Asian countries.

Also, the helicopter market in these countries too is largely untapped. If LCA gets foreign recognition other HAL made products too will attract the attention sending positive signals in defence manufacturing in India, he adds.

Earlier this year, HAL had sent in two fighters to participate in the Langkawi International Maritime and Aerospace Exhibition (LIMA) 2019 in Malaysia for the first time. These were ferried with the help of the Indian Air Force (IAF) and had participated in the flight displays along with Indonesia’s Jupiter Aerobatic Team and the Royal Malaysian Air Force.

The South Asian country is in the process of assessing fighter aircraft from various vendors as it is planning to buy 36 light combat aircraft (LCA) in an effort to add on to its existing fleets in its air force.

Sources indicated the government of Malaysia is keen on the Indian LCA, and during the LIMA, the HAL stand had received several queries from the government of that country.

Besides India, Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF) which is looking for a low-cost light fighter jet has invited proposals from competitors including M-346FA Fighter Attack aircraft variant developed by Leonardo, Yak-130 combat trainer aircraft developed by United Aircraft Corporation of Russia and FA-50 light attack aircraft developed by Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI).

The first time `Tejas’ had an international exposure was during the Bahrain International Air Show in 2016. The LCA which is considered to be the world’s lightest supersonic fighter has already joined the IAF and has received the Final Operational Clearance on Feb 20, this year.

The IAF has inducted the Tejas into its Number 45 Squadron — Flying Daggers in July 2016. This squadron is flying the MiG-21 Bison fighters, one of which shot down a much-advanced F-16 of the Pakistani Air Force on Feb 27, 2019.

The Made in India LCA with the first advance Fly-by-wire (FBW) fighter designed, developed and manufactured by the Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) and HAL will replace the MiG-21s in the IAF fleet. This aircraft has a glass cockpit with Satellite aided Inertial Navigation System and is a 4 + generation fighter. This aircraft has a capability to fire Beyond Visual Range (BVR) missiles, bombs and precision-guided munitions.

It can also be refuelled mid-air which will increase its combat radius. The IAF is already keenly waiting for the newer version of the aircraft Tejas MK 2, the Medium Weight Fighter (MWF), currently under development.

https://eurasiantimes.com/malaysia-...ndian-hal-tejas-over-pakistani-jf-17-thunder-

Tejas for export?
A pipe dream tbh.

We can't meet our own demands how do we expect to meet demand of a foreign country.
Tejas is good but simply too many forces are trying to stall it.
Our babus and bureaucrats prefer foreign maal over our desi gal.

Followings are the requirement of a good aircraft.
Good production line- U should be able to churn out planes on time, it's not for local consumption that we can delay it however much we want. A late response will cause Dissatisfaction among customers and probably won't warrant another follow up order.

Serviceabilty- A comapny must provided routine service for its equipment, i.e, imagine if tomorrow we buy Gripen with some of its key parts from US we have to depend upon them for spare parts.
Our Tejas still ha its engine from GE, if uncle sam tomorrow sees Tejas as a rival they may try to stall the production.

Configurations- we have mated Russian System with Israeli avionics which is probably the biggest advantage of Rusisan systems. They are open to configurations. This is useful when mating different system gives a wider functionality to a product.



Only way for us to become Aeronautics exporter is to sustain our own market.

 

[vampyrbladez]

The MWF canopy is shaped likea bubble canopy like the latest one from Tejas Mark 1... The canards are placed in a piston where the won't hinder side-rear visibility, unless bent.View attachment 34650 View attachment 34651
Compared to that, Naval Tejas Mark 2...View attachment 34654

So essentially we made the Tejas Mk 2 into a Gripen E/F then...........

#accidentalgenius

 

[iamkuntal]

Will unveil full CGI of MWF next month [emoji41]

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[Hari Sud]

Tejas for export?
A pipe dream tbh.

We can't meet our own demands how do we expect to meet demand of a foreign country.
Tejas is good but simply too many forces are trying to stall it.
Our babus and bureaucrats prefer foreign maal over our desi gal.

Followings are the requirement of a good aircraft.
Good production line- U should be able to churn out planes on time, it's not for local consumption that we can delay it however much we want. A late response will cause Dissatisfaction among customers and probably won't warrant another follow up order.

Serviceabilty- A comapny must provided routine service for its equipment, i.e, imagine if tomorrow we buy Gripen with some of its key parts from US we have to depend upon them for spare parts.
Our Tejas still ha its engine from GE, if uncle sam tomorrow sees Tejas as a rival they may try to stall the production.

Configurations- we have mated Russian System with Israeli avionics which is probably the biggest advantage of Rusisan systems. They are open to configurations. This is useful when mating different system gives a wider functionality to a product.



Only way for us to become Aeronautics exporter is to sustain our own market.

Exports always and in all countries first.

 

[iamkuntal]

MWF [emoji41][emoji41][emoji1128][emoji1128]

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[Suryavanshi]

MWF [emoji41][emoji41][emoji1128][emoji1128]

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Cannards.
How many hard points on this one?

 

[iamkuntal]

11 hard points ( but ,notice there is a special hard point , carrying 2 missiles ) Here is the official one . I modelled accordingly .

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[HariPrasad-1]

Cannards.
How many hard points on this one?

11. Read my article on Tejas Mk2.

 

[Suryavanshi]

Realistically we could power a double engine Tejas variant with kaveri.

For that we have to sort out these problem.
-Low Performance on High Altitudes
-Noise when using After burner
-Decresing some excess weight(This is a major problem because it might cost us the performance of engine)

Crystal blade technology is very desirable right now but we need some more time to master that art.

 

[Vijyes]

This will require major redesign or even designing new plane. Or, India can get a ein engine plane TOT and fix Kaveri engine in it. Rafale deal is exactly this. Rafale is the twin engine version of Tejas. The fact that it has twin 75kN engine also makes it perfect for for Kaveri

Realistically we could power a double engine Tejas variant with kaveri.

For that we have to sort out these problem.
-Low Performance on High Altitudes
-Noise when using After burner
-Decresing some excess weight(This is a major problem because it might cost us the performance of engine)

Crystal blade technology is very desirable right now but we need some more time to master that art.

 

[Prashant12]

What is the update on AESA radar?

The AESA radar is integrated with the Light Combat Aircraft. The test and evaluation are going on at the moment. We are confident that AESA radar would be fully proven by the next year and would be ready for induction on Tejas Mk 1A.

What is the progress on Tejas II?

Tejas II is progressing well. The design phase has been completed. As far as the engine is concerned, the user is satisfied with the present one used and so we will go with the same. For the Indian Navy, we are working on a separate programme as the requirements are different. The design phase for Mark II Navy is over and it will certainly meet all their requirements.

Will there be substantial difference between Tejas II and Naval Mark II?

These are different aircrafts based on the different requirements of the users.

http://forceindia.net/interview/sec...development-organisation-dr-g-satheesh-reddy/

 

[Prashant12]

Indigenous light combat aircraft targeted by 2022

Sanctioned by the government in 2009, the Mk II will be equipped with state-of-the-art AESA radar with the indigenously developed air-to-air missile Astra, which has a range of 70km. The beyond visual range missile is currently being tested on the IAF’s Su-30 MKI fighters.

Tejas fighter aircraft performs during Aero India 2019, at Yelahanka Air Force Station in Bengaluru . (ANI photo)
The Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) of the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) will unveil the Tejas Mark II with a heavier stand-off weapon capacity in the 75th year of India’s independence, in 2022, and the long-awaited indigenous fighter, which will be manufactured by the state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL), will go into production by 2025-2026, two senior defence officials said on condition of anonymity.

DRDO’s ADA finalised the design of the 17.5 ton Tejas Mark II (Mk-II) in December 2018, and is expected to lock in the design of the fifth generation twin-engine stealth fighter for Indian Air Force (IAF) by the end of the year. ADA officials said the Mk II will have the same weight as the Mirage, Jaguar and Grippen but with a heavier GE 414 engine. The qualitative requirements were frozen in late 2018, in full consultation and with the approval of the IAF, two years after the project was redesigned. The 4.5 generation fighter will go into production after the Tejas LCA (light combat aircraft) order of 123 aircraft to replace the air force’s ageing MiG-21s is completed.

Sanctioned by the government in 2009, the Mk II will be equipped with state-of-the-art AESA radar with the indigenously developed air-to-air missile Astra, which has a range of 70km. The beyond visual range missile is currently being tested on the IAF’s Su-30 MKI fighters.

ADA and IAF are also moving rapidly on the development of the advanced medium combat aircraft (AMCA). The 25-ton fighter will have all weapons in its belly and be powered by two engines capable of super-cruise speeds. AMCA will have complex S-shaped serpentine intakes. These hide the spinning turbine blades in the engine and are a key stealth feature. The super cruise feature allows the aircraft to accelerate without the use of after burners. Both features ensure minimum radar signatures.

According to top DRDO officials who asked not to be named, the design of AMCA, which was approved as an initial concept in 2014, has been given a go-ahead by IAF late last year. In consultation with the air force, the design of the twin engine fighter will be frozen by the end of the year. This, too, will be made by HAL.

The Tejas will be lightest member of the family; the LCA weighs just around 11 tonnes.

Designed as a fifth-generation stealth fighter using composite material, the AMCA will be unveiled by ADA in 2024. With a weight equivalent to the F-18 fighter, AMCA will be powered with a new engine, the search for which has already started.


https://www.hindustantimes.com/indi...ted-by-2022/story-MGy2MXsapn8H6IDjUNt12H.html

 

[Shekhar Singh]

Latest information about current status of Tejas MK2.