Wuhan Coronavirus Thread

Is coronavirus a biological warfare agent released by China?

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IndianYonko

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I tried to analyze the performance of the states in covid handling base on numbers available. For sake of comparison, I used a metric of % contribution in death and cases vs % contribution in population.

Data for the number of cases and deaths have been used from covid19india.org: API
Data for Population has been taken from Wiki. Data used till date 30-04-2021


  • Top 5 contributors in population are : UP, MH, Bihar, WB and MP contributing 16.5%, 9.28%, 8.59%, 7.54%, 5.99% respectively.
  • Top 5 cases contributor are : MH, KL, KA, UP, TN contributing 24.02%, 8.20%, 7.95%, 6.53%, 6.09% respectively
    • Delhi is 6th in case contribution with 6% cases while having only 1.38% population.
  • Top 5 death contributors are : MH, Delhi, KA, TN, UP contributing 32.48%, 7.62%, 7.32%, 6.63%, 5.93% respectively.
    • All the above states have a population greater than 1cr; So we shall look into states below 1cr separately.

To Normalize these values with population to get bigger pictures we will use a metric of the percentage of case contribution vs percentage of population contribution along with a similar metric for deaths.

  • For the states with a population greater than 1cr.
    • Worst performing states in case perc. to pop. perc. ratio; are Delhi, KL, MH, CH, KA with the ratio of 4.33, 2.98, 2.59, 1.80, 1.58 respectively.
    • Best performing states in case perc. to pop. perc. ratio are Bihar, UP, JH, MP, Assam with the ratio of 0.29, 0.40, 0.45, 0.50, 0.51 respectively.
    • Worst performing states in death perc. to pop. perc. ratio; are Delhi, MH, CH, Punjab, Uttarakhand with a ratio of 5.50, 3.50, 1.92, 1.86, 1.49 respectively.
    • Best performing states in case perc. to pop. perc. the ratio are Bihar, Assam, Odisha, RJ, UP with ratio of 0.14, 0.24, 0.29, 0.35, 0.36
  • For the states with a population less than 1cr.
    • Worst performing states in case perc. to pop. perc. ratio; are Goa, Ladakh, Puducherry, Lakshadweep, Chandigarh with the ratio of 3.95, 3.12, 2.97, 2.71, 2.55 respectively.
    • Best performing states in case perc. to pop. perc. the ratio are Mizoram, Meghalaya, Nagaland, Tripura, Manipur with the ratio of 0.35, 0.36, 0.45, 0.61, 0.78 respectively.
    • Worst performing states in death perc. to pop. perc. ratio; are Goa, Puducherry, Ladakh, Chandigarh, Sikkim with a ratio of 4.58, 3.67, 2.92, 2.59, 1.34 respectively.
    • Best performing states in case perc. to pop. perc. the ratio are D&D, Mizoram, Arunachal Pradesh, Nagaland, Meghalaya with the ratio of 0.04, 0.07, 0.24, 0.3, 0.31
 

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This bioweapon do not need more triggers. It has built in triggers which comes as mutations, which then create waves. There are more that 600-700 variants world wide and growing as we speak.

No preparation, no hospitals with oxygen can save people other than lockdown, early isolation, border checks and vaccination.

Please try to understand from a doctor’s perspective. Just having a community acquired pneumonia case in ICU we rush to get high risk consent from the relatives of the patient. The rate of prognosis is slashed 50% straightaway sighting first X-ray.

It is the time that an Intensivist tries to buy for the patient. With good resources and hands on approach Patient can be saved. But this do not happen all the time. I am only factoring in treatment part dispensed by the Hospital assuming Patient's immunity is fighting well and there are other intrinsic factors protecting him. And when the system gets overwhelmed and doctors and resources get over stretched the probability of coming out healthy becomes bleak.

This is biological war we are fighting, having more hospitals, more ventilators, more doctors, more nurses is ideal but the outcomes are not assured.

During my tenure I concluded and always wanted that if any organ I can create in a lab for quick transplant it will be the lungs. Most of our battles we lost in good old times where due to this particular organ.

Once virus makes artificial trained to acclimatize to human body jumps and mutuations are easier. I was angry that people are taking of advantage of our dire situation. After taking deep breather, more important to take care of this situation first.
 

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Once virus makes artificial trained to acclimatize to human body jumps and mutuations are easier. I was angry that people are taking of advantage of our dire situation. After taking deep breather, more important to take care of this situation first.
Well, this is no different than Italy or UK or US or initial Wuhan panic....it will flatten out and then other countries will have their nice peak curves. Starting to think media is becoming less and less of use for human development already...
 

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I don't know if this has been noticed or not, but the death toll in the US last few days:
600 and counting today (a few more hours left), 900, 986, 854...

No noise. But it's far from over.
It's not just that; look at Brazil; Mexico; Poland; Iran; even Russia; They have a higher daily death/population ratio right now. This is the bigotry of media.
 

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I tried to analyze the performance of the states in covid handling base on numbers available. For sake of comparison, I used a metric of % contribution in death and cases vs % contribution in population.

Data for the number of cases and deaths have been used from covid19india.org: API
Data for Population has been taken from Wiki. Data used till date 30-04-2021


  • Top 5 contributors in population are : UP, MH, Bihar, WB and MP contributing 16.5%, 9.28%, 8.59%, 7.54%, 5.99% respectively.
  • Top 5 cases contributor are : MH, KL, KA, UP, TN contributing 24.02%, 8.20%, 7.95%, 6.53%, 6.09% respectively
    • Delhi is 6th in case contribution with 6% cases while having only 1.38% population.
  • Top 5 death contributors are : MH, Delhi, KA, TN, UP contributing 32.48%, 7.62%, 7.32%, 6.63%, 5.93% respectively.
    • All the above states have a population greater than 1cr; So we shall look into states below 1cr separately.

To Normalize these values with population to get bigger pictures we will use a metric of the percentage of case contribution vs percentage of population contribution along with a similar metric for deaths.

  • For the states with a population greater than 1cr.
    • Worst performing states in case perc. to pop. perc. ratio; are Delhi, KL, MH, CH, KA with the ratio of 4.33, 2.98, 2.59, 1.80, 1.58 respectively.
    • Best performing states in case perc. to pop. perc. ratio are Bihar, UP, JH, MP, Assam with the ratio of 0.29, 0.40, 0.45, 0.50, 0.51 respectively.
    • Worst performing states in death perc. to pop. perc. ratio; are Delhi, MH, CH, Punjab, Uttarakhand with a ratio of 5.50, 3.50, 1.92, 1.86, 1.49 respectively.
    • Best performing states in case perc. to pop. perc. the ratio are Bihar, Assam, Odisha, RJ, UP with ratio of 0.14, 0.24, 0.29, 0.35, 0.36
  • For the states with a population less than 1cr.
    • Worst performing states in case perc. to pop. perc. ratio; are Goa, Ladakh, Puducherry, Lakshadweep, Chandigarh with the ratio of 3.95, 3.12, 2.97, 2.71, 2.55 respectively.
    • Best performing states in case perc. to pop. perc. the ratio are Mizoram, Meghalaya, Nagaland, Tripura, Manipur with the ratio of 0.35, 0.36, 0.45, 0.61, 0.78 respectively.
    • Worst performing states in death perc. to pop. perc. ratio; are Goa, Puducherry, Ladakh, Chandigarh, Sikkim with a ratio of 4.58, 3.67, 2.92, 2.59, 1.34 respectively.
    • Best performing states in case perc. to pop. perc. the ratio are D&D, Mizoram, Arunachal Pradesh, Nagaland, Meghalaya with the ratio of 0.04, 0.07, 0.24, 0.3, 0.31
For states above 1cr population

Considering confirmed cases.

top 5 worst performing states casewise: ['Delhi', 'Kerala', 'Maharashtra', 'Chhattisgarh', 'Karnataka']
These states contribute 49.98 % cases
These states contribute 20.59 % population

top 5 best performing states casewise: ['Bihar', 'Uttar Pradesh', 'Jharkhand', 'Madhya Pradesh', 'Assam']
These states contribute 14.47 % cases
These states contribute 36.41 % population


Considering deaths.

top 5 worst performing states deathwise: ['Delhi', 'Maharashtra', 'Chhattisgarh', 'Punjab', 'Uttarakhand']
These states contribute 49.66 % deaths
These states contribute 15.90 % population

top 5 best performing states deathwise: ['Bihar', 'Assam', 'Odisha', 'Rajasthan', 'Uttar Pradesh']
These states contribute 10.75 % deaths
These states contribute 36.81 % population


For states below 1cr population

Considering confirmed cases.

top 5 worst performing states casewise: ['Goa', 'Ladakh', 'Puducherry', 'Lakshadweep', 'Chandigarh']
These states contribute 1.09 % cases
These states contribute 0.34 % population

top 5 best performing states casewise: ['Mizoram', 'Meghalaya', 'Nagaland', 'Tripura', 'Manipur']
These states contribute 0.54 % cases
These states contribute 1.01 % population


Considering deaths.

top 5 worst performing states deathwise: ['Goa', 'Puducherry', 'Ladakh', 'Chandigarh', 'Sikkim']
These states contribute 1.29 % deaths
These states contribute 0.38 % population

top 5 best performing states deathwise: ['Dadra and Nagar Haveli and Daman and Diu', 'Mizoram', 'Arunachal Pradesh', 'Nagaland', 'Meghalaya']
These states contribute 0.17 % deaths
These states contribute 0.66 % population
 

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According to a factsheet issued by the White House, the Joe Biden administration is shipping 1,100 cylinders, 1,700 oxygen concentrators, 15 million N95 masks, 1 million testing kits , 20,000 treatment courses of remdesivir and 20 million doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine to India .

 
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According to a factsheet issued by the White House, the Joe Biden administration is shipping 1,100 cylinders, 1,700 oxygen concentrators, 15 million N95 masks, 1 million testing kits , 20,000 treatment courses of remdesivir and 20 million doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine to India .

AstraZeneca isnt that one was ban from using in US and EU is suing them. guess Biden dont want to send in the pifzer/moderna.
 

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AstraZeneca isnt that one was ban from using in US and EU is suing them. guess Biden dont want to send in the pifzer/moderna.
we are giving astrazeneca in india . thats our workhorse . getting that much for free is a big deal given there is shortage right now ... EU suing them because they cld not provide number of doses as per legal agreement and US has not approved it yet but still got 60 million doses in storage .
 

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we are giving astrazeneca in india . thats our workhorse . getting that much for free is a big deal given there is shortage right now ... EU suing them because they cld not provide number of doses as per legal agreement and US has not approved it yet but still got 60 million doses in storage .
The FDA has not approved the AZ vaccine for use in the United States.AZ vaccine will not be used in the United States
 

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US deaths in 2020 were 16 percent more than 2019..
As compared to Spanish flu epidemic, when US deaths in 1918 were only 12 percent more than 1917.. The official US death toll is approaching 600000, the real toll is more than that, and is suspected to have alreadt surpassed the probable toll of 675000 dead of Spanish flu..
Anybody can make up any number. Post your source or don't talk.
 

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If this virus was tailor-made to target Indians, it will very likely affect all South Asians, including Afghans.
I believe Bret Weinstein is right, it is acclimatized to humans artificially and mutates fast.
EU /US were also badly hit so it may not be tailor made specifically for India.
 

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compare India with Brazil and Mexico (more white hat Catholic nations being crushed). In the Media, did you hear/read any pleas for help, anger at the US for not giving them lots of stuff, lots of foreign nations rushing to send assistance or provide vaccines?

Just read that Brazil has had oxygen shortages for months. google Brazil oxygen shortages. I never heard boo about it in the Media.
look at that same with Mexico. hospitals full, no oxygen, people left to die on streets.

reminds me of Scrooge but Scrooge left tiny Tim to die.
 

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