Why cant we even try and release the RAW agents rotting in Pakistani jails for the past 50yrs going insane, while we talk of USA which threatened to attack if they did not release their agent who apparently shot someone point blank couple of months back. Thats the difference, i think its a good measure of an states political will to take care of its Soldiers first.We are discussing about Saeed. For Dawood you need to wait in the mosques he visit. Atleast on the day of Eids. Once a gang member of Chhota Rajan tried to kill Dawood outside a Karachi Mosque. But failed due to mis-timing....
You're right ,For all our economic might and our country's size we have suffered so much because of ISI . I can just imagine the deep Sh*t that failed state will be if RAW did half the things ISI did to us.Why can't India do a US to the likes of Dawood, Saeed?
Just let R&AW loose. I bet it would take a maximum of 5 years for Pakistan to disintegrate.
There are many ISI agents loitering freely in our cities, IB should take care of those guys and communicate any vital information recovered by the IB from them and communicate with RAW so as the enhance over HUMINT and other intelligence gathering in Pakistan which was drastically weakened during the PM Gujral was in centre. India seriously needs to buck up on intelligence gathering and Analysis front especially Pakistan and China./\/\/\ IB is for intelligence gathering inside India(sometimes, rarely in foreign lands), unlike R&AW.
Of course, we are free to delude ourselves to assure ourselves that India must be doing something or the other to hurt those trying to hurt India. But, so far, there has been no evidence. There has not even been a smoke let alone a spark except, of course, the usual pakistani lies and deceit blaming everything on India from floods to earthquakes...If anybody thinks the RAW is all saintly or impotent and is doing NOTHING inside Pak especially after the 26/11 they are mistaken.
Just see the amount of mayhem that has happened in Pak after 26/11.
I am not saying that RAW was directly responsible for all this - but an invisible hand of RAW cannot be ruled out.
We don't want to see mayhem in Pakistan, we want to see the culprits of 26/11 either dead or in Indian jail. But I believe its like asking for too much, after what we witnessed in Afzal Guru case. Our government was so afraid of a defeat that we could not muster the courage to cross the LOC during Kargil War.If anybody thinks the RAW is all saintly or impotent and is doing NOTHING inside Pak especially after the 26/11 they are mistaken.
Just see the amount of mayhem that has happened in Pak after 26/11.
I am not saying that RAW was directly responsible for all this - but an invisible hand of RAW cannot be ruled out.
Seeing the culprits of 26/11 in Indian jails is not going to happen. Who were the people behind 26/11? was it just a bunch of non state actors? We all know without the involvement of ISI and the Pakistani establishment an attack of that magnitude does not happen. That means the Pak authorities are also responsible.We cannot expect them to be put behind bars in India.We don't want to see mayhem in Pakistan, we want to see the culprits of 26/11 either dead or in Indian jail. But I believe its like asking for too much, after what we witnessed in Afzal Guru case. Our government was so afraid of a defeat that we could not muster the courage to cross the LOC during Kargil War.
As I said, there is no proof of RAW's involvement in Pakistan, but it cannot be ruled out either.Of course, we are free to delude ourselves to assure ourselves that India must be doing something or the other to hurt those trying to hurt India. But, so far, there has been no evidence. There has not even been a smoke let alone a spark except, of course, the usual pakistani lies and deceit blaming everything on India from floods to earthquakes...
Agreed --- more on the impotent Govt part than on the impotent security establishment part. As of now we dont know if the Sec agencies are impotent or not because they have not been given a chance to prove their virility by the Govt. And as for the impotent Govt part why blame them when the people (sheeple) voted them in for two consecutive terms ? If you are genuinely interested please go and vote the next time and avoid the "Haath".The sad truth is, we have an impotent Govt or we have an impotent security establishment or both. Therefore, we are just at the mercy of other developments that are not in India's hands. Even after so many days, likes of Kasab or Afzal Guru who are already captured are not dead. When those who are captured have not been punished, what hope is there that we will do something to Dawood, Masood, Saeed, Lakhvi or Kiyani?
I dont agree with this part - it was a political master stroke not to cross the LoC during the Kargil War. We imprinted the boots of the Jawan on the back of the jihadis and simultaneoulsy won the diplomatic offensive worldwide by NOT crossing the LoC.We don't want to see mayhem in Pakistan, we want to see the culprits of 26/11 either dead or in Indian jail. But I believe its like asking for too much, after what we witnessed in Afzal Guru case. Our government was so afraid of a defeat that we could not muster the courage to cross the LOC during Kargil War.
As I said, we can assure ourselves by fairytales...As I said, there is no proof of RAW's involvement in Pakistan, but it cannot be ruled out either.
Agreed --- more on the impotent Govt part than on the impotent security establishment part. As of now we dont know if the Sec agencies are impotent or not because they have not been given a chance to prove their virility by the Govt. And as for the impotent Govt part why blame them when the people (sheeple) voted them in for two consecutive terms ? If you are genuinely interested please go and vote the next time and avoid the "Haath".
There is an equal chance that they are not 'just' fairytales.As I said, we can assure ourselves by fairytales...
Select the less evil. I'm sure that you can do. We need people like Modi, Nitish at the helm.But, what options do sheeple have? One politician is as corrupt as the other. One is inefficient, the other belongs to Haath, another wants to harvest souls, and yet another wants to handover India to china...
You are spot on.Most educated Indians who keep complaining and ask for rule 49(o) ie, no vote, do not realise that it will do no good. Most of those who chose this rule are from the educated urban middle or upper class. Those people are wasting their votes. It will only be a waste of the entire election process.Select the less evil. I'm sure that you can do. We need people like Modi, Nitish at the helm.
Next time some one campaigns against Modi saying he is not 'secular' give him you pinky and vote for him.
Most of you guys think crumbling of Pakistan is good for India - NO.We can't wait for Pakistan to get crumbled on its own, one day the fall of Pakistan is for sure, but which day, is to be known.
We have to play an active role in crumbling of Pakistan, and we must prepare for worst, even nuclear exchange and trying to capture their crown jewels or a strategy to neutralize them.
US and Israel already has such strategy in place, for them its only matter of time.