Turkish defense industry news updates

[Satish Sharma]

Indigenous my ass. Kopin Corporation of USA is supplying the high quality AMLCD microdisplay and the HUD software package for this helmet, which itself looks like a downgraded fork of the F-35's helmet. R&D work subcontracted to Collins Aerospace. Package put together by BAE it looks like, since the finished product looks similar to BAE's past bids.
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We can expose them alot we just need to do some serious research..anyways it is a proven fact this guys hide reality. For fame.
Even china doesn't rename.foreign systems until it is 2/3rd indigenised...
Anyways it is commendable of they don't have they get it any way possible.they were Using Canadian EO systems on bayrakhtar for so long they even exported it to ajeris.

 

[Smoothbore125mm]

Indigenous my ass. Kopin Corporation of USA is supplying the high quality AMLCD microdisplay and the HUD software package for this helmet, which itself looks like a downgraded fork of the F-35's helmet. R&D work subcontracted to Collins Aerospace. Package put together by BAE it looks like, since the finished product looks similar to BAE's past bids.
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let me assume now he would come saying your statements are baseless or with no source type of shit lmao

 

[Smoothbore125mm]

We can expose them alot we just need to do some serious research..anyways it is a proven fact this guys hide reality. For fame.
Even china doesn't rename.foreign systems until it is 2/3rd indigenised...
Anyways it is commendable of they don't have they get it any way possible.they were Using Canadian EO systems on bayrakhtar for so long they even exported it to ajeris.

Foreign Import of Locally-Built Bayraktar TB-2 Turkish Drone Parts

Foreign Import of Locally-Built Bayraktar TB-2 Turkish Drone Parts

www.1lurer.am

 

[gslv markIII]

Another copefest. you really know nothing. whatever.

you poor souls need to know one thing. these products you say "of foreign origin" can be produced, further developed and exported to whomever the fuck we want(including its technologies). that should be your concern.

Further on, I will not be replying to any disingenuous, malintent posts. I'll be just sharing the news and move on.

Ouch, did that hurt? Never knew facts can do such damage.

Nothing can be as disingenuous as describing a foreign product license produced in Turkey as "local".

 

[tfxkaanf23]

It seems Indians can do shit and when others achieve something they just put dirt on that. The things you can not do is your being low!!
Try to find excuses or try to say foreign this foreign that, even in our first prototype of TFX, we have everything domestic except engines and seat.

 

[tfxkaanf23]

Well, In another context, I never commented in this thread, so I wanna ask you about your countries Airforce fleet philosophy. Iam not asking about weapons whether your country genuinely r&d'ed them or not but iam asking about overall planning. Why did your country jump directly to twin-engine 5th gen fighter jet, when even if they are locally procured they can be expensive. Even if they cost only 10M$ hypothetically, they will cost a lot for maintenance. TAF fleet mainly consists of F-16 as of now. Any AirForce generally has a Workhorse+Flagship. In USAF case that is F-16+F-15 in previous generation and F-35+F-22/6th-GEN in present generation but an all F-35 fleet like USAF is unaffordable for many countries. So like China is still producing J-10 which is its main workhorse while J-20 is its main flagship, India is also planning same Tejas as workhorse and AMCA as Flagship. TAF would also like that i presume unless you guys gonna replace all Single-Engine F-16 workhorses with KAAN which is expensive to maintain. Or are you guys planning on using drones or loyal Kizilelma or HurJet as Workhorse? .Iam not understanding your AF philosophy. Had they invested in a cheap KF-21 esque single engine plane to replace F-16 ironically on which you guys were swindled 20B$, you guys would have replaced every F-16 with domestic equivalent plane(Iam not contesting about your capability to develop) and then proceed to twin engine flagship. Tldr-Why did your country go directly to a twin engine flagship rather not a workhorse to replace the liability F-16 which Americunts are holding you by balls. This is a genuine question not trolling.

Turkish airforce was aiming to have 100 f-35a to replace f-4s and increase the number of aircraft.
TFX was planned in 2011 to replace f-16s gradually. So from start air force was looking to have 250 TFX and 100 f-35 around 2035-2040.
TFX was planned as a competitor to raptor from start(for air superiority roles in mind).
When we get kicked out of f-35 , air force wanted to have TFX fastly ,in a smaller time frame than planned.
By this time, UAVs and ucavs and royal wingman concept arisen.
Our air force is looking now to have 350-400 manned fighters 250 -300 TFX and 100-150 f-16)
To keep f-16 more in service, we are applying life extension to them and we are modernizing them to viper levels.mor ever,to compensate air craft deficiency due f-4s being obsolete, we are buying 40 f-16s and planning to buy 40 eurofighter typhoon.
Additionally, we will have around 300-400 UAVs,acavs and loyal wingmans.
Additionally, air force may want to have light fighter version of hurjet.
Basically, our air force wanted to have twin engine air superiority fighter from the beginning.

 

[tfxkaanf23]

They were aiming for an F-35 and TFX mix for their airforce and then khalifa Erdogan screwed everything up with ordering S400. So with US playing the hard ball in supplying F16s and greeks getting F35s turks have no other option than to rely on Khan.

We will have f-35 as well,you will see. But after TFX first flight and modernizing f-16s, f-35 number can not exceed 30-40.
Maybe navy may want to have 20-30 f-35b model.

 

[karn]

I dunno why folks here are so hyper about turkish developments . If they made a product with 3rd party help so what ? If there is a cheaper alternate available it is better to take it while a local replacement can be developed .
Can we reserve trolling for when this equipment is actually used in combat ?
Also don't forget that Al gutter funds military dev in turkey along with funding from military controlled businesses. They also have a tradition of funding military development with donations from the public as well.
With all this turkey is going to punch above its weight in military dev.

 

[MysticBuzz]

ANKA-3 made its third flight. It stayed in the air for two ours, reached 160knots speed and 10k feet altitude.

 

[MysticBuzz]

We will have f-35 as well,you will see. But after TFX first flight and modernizing f-16s, f-35 number can not exceed 30-40.
Maybe navy may want to have 20-30 f-35b model.

don't bother. let them smell their own farts like they used to.

 

[jai jaganath]

I dunno why folks here are so hyper about turkish developments . If they made a product with 3rd party help so what ? If there is a cheaper alternate available it is better to take it while a local replacement can be developed .
Can we reserve trolling for when this equipment is actually used in combat ?
Also don't forget that Al gutter funds military dev in turkey along with funding from military controlled businesses. They also have a tradition of funding military development with donations from the public as well.
With all this turkey is going to punch above its weight in military dev.

Yeah there is no issue taking 3rd party assistance if u own ipr of maximum LRUs
Point is to get things fast then make incremental changes to get indigenous LRUs into the system
This will mature ur supply chain and logistics and also provide u time to develop systems and run ur rnd
Turkey has set the objective and moving towards it with full force utilizing every Inch of benefits they have
That's what India should learn that's how I build numbers and logistics

 

[tfxkaanf23]

That's what we are saying you guys keep is so secret.
However that looks exact copy of black shark.
You guys cannot make it in so less time..that's fact nobody can.

Less time?? Roketsan is working on it since 2009-2010!!
You may believe whatever shit you want, everything in that torpedo is local.
Roketsan started Atmaca and akya projects in 2009. It took more than 10-12 years for them to be taken into inventory. For akya , acceptance tests with live warhead has been made in 2023.
And as far as I know ,we do t have black shark in our inventory too. We purchased German and american torpedoes lastly(more than 10 years ago)

Roketsan - AKYA Next-Generation Heavy-Class Torpedo

www.roketsan.com.tr

 

[gslv markIII]

It seems Indians can do shit and when others achieve something they just put dirt on that.

"iNDiaNs cANt dO sHiT"...

even in our first prototype of TFX

Your first prototype is nothing but a static test airframe modified for being flight capable for political reasons.

It doesn't even have retractable landing gear.

 

[Satish Sharma]

It seems Indians can do shit and when others achieve something they just put dirt on that. The things you can not do is your being low!!
Try to find excuses or try to say foreign this foreign that, even in our first prototype of TFX, we have everything domestic except engines and seat.

Indians can't do shit

Torpedo delivery by missile..

Ballistic missile defence (interceptor)

 

[Satish Sharma]

 

[Blood+]

Aselsan Unveils DÜFAS Variable Depth Sonar System


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DÜFAS is a variable depth sonar (VDS) system, that integrates active and passive sonar capabilities. Its primary mission is to detect elusive underwater threats, particularly stealthy submarines, from staggering distances, thereby fortifying the defensive capabilities of surface platforms. The system also provides high-accuracy detection in large areas by using continuous active sonar capability.

In passive sonar mode, the system is used to detect threats such as torpedoes by listening to ambient noise. Unlike its counterparts, HIZIR Torpedo Countermeasure components can also be integrated into DÜFAS. The system recommends the most appropriate countermeasure tactics and evasive maneuvers to the user to eliminate torpedoes fired from enemy platforms. In this way, the system becomes a torpedo countermeasure system that incorporates the features of the HIZIR System in addition to its active sonar capability and can offer a complete solution. When a torpedo is detected, the system activates the countermeasure equipment, eliminating the threat and allowing safe escape.



https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2024/03/aselsan-unveils-dufas-variable-depth-sonar-system/

DUFAS??!! Really??!! Your naming convention sucks even harder than ours and that's saying something.

 

[Marliii]

It seems Indians can do shit and when others achieve something they just put dirt on that. The things you can not do is your being low!!
Try to find excuses or try to say foreign this foreign that, even in our first prototype of TFX, we have everything domestic except engines and seat.

Buddy first have a capacity to take an apple to space before jumping on your own bandwagon.Even indian start ups will do it in a few years talk about being low!!.You cant make a slew of things that indian MIC has been doing for some time.flying a fifth gen prototype is a big thing amd your ahead of us by some years but if we do that comparison on other things your county would get humiliated badly.

 

[Satish Sharma]

DUFAS??!! Really??!! Your naming convention sucks even harder than ours and that's saying something.

They can make good movie of weapons that's it ..

 

[Blood+]

They can make good movie of weapons that's it ..

Well, they CAN make quite a few impressive piece of hardware, no doubt about it, even if they make heavy use of COTS subsystems in them. The question is, can they actually afford to induct those in any meaningful quantities considering their current economic situation.

 

[Smoothbore125mm]

Try to find excuses or try to say foreign this foreign that, even in our first prototype of TFX, we have everything domestic except engines and seat.

Cause the prototype only had engine and seat (the metal maybe yours)