The Syrian Crisis

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Maybe so... but they hire foreign journalists who won't ruin their careers by making up false stories. Spin is one thing... fabrication is another.
 

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Maybe so... but they hire foreign journalists who won't ruin their careers by making up false stories. Spin is one thing... fabrication is another.
Anybody not towing the line of Saudi-Qatari Wahhabi financiers of these news channels risk ruining their careers. They don't have much alternative, because even BBC, CNN, etc., have to toe the government line. Only The Guardian, and to a small extent Telegraph, have shown some degree of autonomy, IMV.
 

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This is from nightwatch intelligence assessment (american based).


Syria: Comment. Feedback directed NightWatch to a recent interview by retired US Major General Vallely with a senior leader of the Free Syrian Army (FSA). The interview produced a number of interesting comments by the Syrian opposition leader.


The FSA controls only 60% of the fighters. Al Qaida fighters represent less than 1% of the fighters. The others are Salafists and various extremists and some moderates. A US TV news reporter from the Pentagon this week said the Defense Department has identified nine different Sunni opposition groups.


The FSA leader said his force numbers 100,000 fighters but lacks arms. He said most weapons enter Syria from Turkey and lots are lost. The opposition requires arms. He said the FSA knows how to control al Qaida and expected the Muslim Brotherhood would become the political leader of a post-Asad government because of it is so well organized.



The FSA leader said the Syrian government forces, essentially the Alawite defense forces, number 100,000 fighters.


Comment: The numbers are important because force ratios, firepower and logistics determine the winner. The side with the most and best guns always wins in a violent internal security problem.


The force ratios the FSA leader stated signify that the FSA cannot win, as those ratios now stand, even without taking into account Syrian government firepower. On the other hand, with only 100,000 soldiers, assuming the figure is roughly accurate, the Syrian government cannot cleanse every major town of Sunni fighters.


Thus the security situation is chronic, but not terminal for either side. For the government, the edge in Syrian government capabilities hinges on Russia. For the opposition, the supply line depends on Turkey. (The FSA leader probably should not have been so candid, assuming he was telling the truth.)


The FSA leader estimated that 50,000 Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) soldiers are assisting the Syrian forces, without providing evidence.


Comment: It is credible that a significant number of IRGC are in Syria, just as it is certain that American special forces are assisting the Syrian opposition, but in smaller numbers. The number of IRGC soldiers is significant because the Syrian opposition cannot win if Iran has committed 50,000 IRGC troops to Syria. That would represent a large well-trained force.


Breaking apart the statements of the FSA leader, the FSA emerges as the most vocal of the opposition groups. It might be the largest, as it claims, but it is not the best armed. The numbers it claims to have mean that it stands no chance of overthrowing the Syrian government, as long as the Russians provide the supplies and Iran reinforces the Alawites. A one-to-one force ratio always favors the government, for obvious reasons.

The FSA leader was upbeat, but he failed to appreciate that his numbers undermined his optimism. No numbers are confirmed independently, of course. The only reason to credit some of his numbers is that the professional core of the Syrian Army was 140,000 two years ago, which included Sunni officers and soldiers. Considering defections by the Sunnis, a figure of 100,000 mainly Alawite and Baathist soldiers is credible. It also reinforces that the Alawite core remains loyal and responsive to central command and control.


There is no independent evidence that 50,000 IRGC are in Syria, but that number is well within Iranian capabilities, if the Tehran government has decided to defend Syria.


At the same time, the level of fighting in Syria in no way indicates there are 100,000 armed opposition fighters or that so many are under any chain of command or disciipline.


To put in perspective the significance of 100,000 fighters, in Iraq at the height of the insurgency, the Sunni fighters in Anbar Province had 100,000 fighters -- according to US reports about the number of monthly bribes paid to get them to stop fighting. They mounted and sustained 300 firefights and attacks a day against the 150,000 or so US armed forces almost indefinitely, until the money was paid.


The Syrian fighting is not close to that NightWatch benchmark, indicating there are far fewer opposition fighters than the FSA leader claimed.

NightWatch 20120807 - KGS
 

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These Western journalists are not worried about getting fired from Aljazeera. They switch channels all the time. Making up fabricated stories will get them blacklisted and tarnished out of the industry. You are talking about SANA and Press TV, now they get fired and have no credibility in journalism to begin with.
 

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Sorry, nobody is neutral in this conflict. Every major power has some stake in it, with the possible exception of Germany's newspapers. As far as this conflict goes, credibility of Press TV is just about the same as BBC and CNN.
 

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Sorry, spin is one thing and expected, lies are another and that is all Syria knows how to report. You will see tomorrow they are still there and this conversation will be moot.
 

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I think we will start believing which side is right once the stories from both sides start converging at some point in the near future. Till then alleged propaganda will continue from both sides.
 

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Syrian rebels withstand Aleppo assault

State media claimed the Syrian army had taken the pivotal rebel-held western district of Salaheddin, their only gateway into the city, and to have killed large numbers of "terrorists" there.

Inside the city, however, streets in rebel-held areas were calm, though fewer people were braving shelling coming from tanks, helicopters and MiG jets.

Rebel positions near a football stadium in neighbouring government-held Hamdaniyeh seemed to be holding, despite constant bombardment from the tanks massed behind regime lines.
Source: Syrian rebels withstand Aleppo assault - Telegraph
 

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Rebels or revolutionaries? The Russian media's coverage of Syria's uprising is a distorted reflection of our own

By David Blair @ Telegraph, UK

I have a confession to make. I write about other countries all the time, but I speak no languages other than my mother tongue. Fortunately, we have an intern on the foreign desk, Nargiza Ryskulova, who is fluent in Russian.

Over the last couple of days, Nargiza has been looking at how the Russian media are covering the crisis in Syria. Here is what she has found:

By Nargiza Ryskulova

Russia's stance on external intervention in Syria's conflict is very clear. It is a definite 'no'. Just as Western media headlines are filled with criticism of Russia's position, so the Russian media takes a very different view of what is happening on the ground.

1) The Syrian prime minister: was he sacked or did he defect?

Riad Hijab, the former Syrian prime minister doesn't look like a hero in the Russian media. His departure is portrayed simply as a consequence of him being sacked.

Russia Today, a government-funded satellite channel, quotes Syrian state TV to report that Hijab had been dismissed and fled the country shortly afterwards.

RIA Novosti, a Russian news agency, reports that Hijab ran away to Jordan. It highlights that he was sacked from his post before fleeing the country. Hijab's stated reasons for leaving are not reported.

2) Is Damascus under control?

Russian state TV has a clear answer to this question. "Damascus is under full control of Syrian government forces," reported their correspondent live from Damacus on August 5. The reporter interviewed local people in Tadamun, the last district of the capital to be recaptured from opposition forces.

The report concentrates on civilians killed by the rebels, quoting a local woman, who said: "I saw it myself, how people were taken to the edge of the pit, shot and dumped. Probably they have quarrelled with the Free Syrian Army."

But the channel also mentions that she was "the only one to directly accuse the opposition forces". Other people were more cautious, it says. They claim that "civilians were shot every day, almost for two weeks and only when the district was released from the opposition forces, the killings finally stopped".

The correspondent quotes a Syrian general saying: "We cleared all parts of Damascus from the rebels. Tadamun was the last one. Rebels were outnumbered, however don't be surprised if tomorrow they will declare that we didn't beat them."

3) Rebels or revolutionaries?

Overall, the Western and Russian media list the same facts and refer to the same news agencies. However they use very different terminology.

While the Western media refers to "opposition forces" and sometimes "revolutionaries" fighting Bashar-al-Assad's regime, the Russian media persistently uses the term "povstansy". This has a negative connotation and refers to armed groups trying to overthrow a lawful government.

The Russian media describes the events unfolding in Syria as an internal crisis. Western intervention is interpreted as taking the side of opposition forces, ultimately resolving the conflict in their favour.

The Russian position is described as an attempt at peaceful conflict resolution, justified by respect for Syria's sovereignty.

In short, the facts are all the same, but a completely different image appears as you read through Russian coverage of Syria, as if you are looking into a mirror, but the reflection is bent beyond recognition.

Source: Rebels or revolutionaries? The Russian media's coverage of Syria's uprising is a distorted reflection of our own – Telegraph Blogs

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Interesting comment:
yesterdaytodayforever
18 hours ago

"Rebels or revolutionaries? The Russian media's coverage of Syria's uprising is a distorted reflection of our own"

Hope no one minds if i point out that this headline, and the ensuing sub-heading "Rebels or revolutionaries", is subtly manipulative, though i'll give you the benefit of the doubt Mr Blair and surmise that this was not intentional. Both words 'rebel' and 'revolutionary' in fact have positive connotations in English, and both are used in the western media to describe the opposition in Syria. The word generally used by Russian media, 'povtansy', equates more or less to the English word 'insurgents'. So a coherent headline would read:

"Rebels or *insurgents*? The Russian media's coverage etc..."

Having said this, i see the word "insurgent" being used by the Telegraph today. Is it any co-incidence that when the opposition is in retreat, they are described in less flattering terms?
 

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Syria crisis: Rebels lose key district of Aleppo

Syrian rebel commanders say they have lost control of the strategic Salah al-Din district in the northern city of Aleppo after a government offensive.

The city has come under fresh bombardment, as the government attempts to recapture areas seized by rebel fighters.

The fighting comes as Iran is hosting its own international meeting on the Syrian crisis.

A new PM has been appointed to replace Riad Hijab who defected on Sunday.

The Free Syrian Army (FSA) has confirmed it has retreated from Salah al-Din, a densely packed area of narrow streets on the south-west side of Aleppo, where rebel fighters had been heavily dug in.
Source: BBC News - Syria crisis: Rebels lose key district of Aleppo
 

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Syrian army launches ground operation in Aleppo


  • Syrian army has started a ground operation and entered several key districts in Aleppo province.
  • Hundreds of armed insurgents have been killed and their hideouts have also been knocked out.
  • The army is facing great challenges in Salahuddien due to the intense presence of snipers.

Source: Syrian army launches ground operation in Aleppo - Xinhua | English.news.cn
 

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