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In the event of a war a far interior would MKI be able to go inside Sichuan?
Maybe yes, maybe no. It depends on what the MKIs are expected to do because the entire war will be a border war. I guess IAF will be most interested in hitting ground forces and supply lines while PLAAF will be most interested in preventing that from happening.

The PLA have their rocket corps which is more dangerous than their air force. That's like the Chinese SFC.
 

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Maybe yes, maybe no. It depends on what the MKIs are expected to do because the entire war will be a border war. I guess IAF will be most interested in hitting ground forces and supply lines while PLAAF will be most interested in preventing that from happening.

The PLA have their rocket corps which is more dangerous than their air force. That's like the Chinese SFC.
Actually I wanted to know How far interior can it go when you said Chengdu is within range. Chengdu can be within range only using MKi launched Brahmos.
 

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Russia reportedly leased us 4 Tupolevs TU-22M. Why wouldn't they be interested in financing PAK-DA?
India never received Tu-22M and it never will. The type is being retired except for 30 which will run from cannabalised airframes.
 

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India never received Tu-22M and it never will. The type is being retired except for 30 which will run from cannabalised airframes.
Pigs Forever? [F-111 Supercruise]

Australians reporting India's TU-22's are in Andaman Islands??

Recent reports indicate that India will soon deploy the Tu-22M-3 Backfire, armed with the potent Mach 2+ 200 NMI range Kh-22M/AS-4 Kitchen cruise missile, while it is completing a major upgrade to the Port Blair runway in the Andamans
. China has to date not responded publicly, but given its recent disagreement with the US over the EP-3C Aries collision and subsequent US arms sale to Taiwan, the odds of a Chinese Backfire buy look increasingly stronger with time. The superb combat radius of the Backfire allows its users to project force from forward bases such as Port Blair or Hainan-Dao directly in to Australian airspace. The speed and persistence of a Backfire armed with supersonic cruise missiles dictate early interception, a task for which the small F/A-18A is not well suited. An F-111 with a phased array and AIM-120 AMRAAM would plug this capability gap until the F/A-18A replacement is deployed post 2012
 
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India never received Tu-22M and it never will. The type is being retired except for 30 which will run from cannabalised airframes.
It was offered for lease just like the nuclear sub, some say the Navy took 4 but there was no news after that.

Moreover what are you doing here in Su-30MKI thread when your supposed to be answering in Rafael thread?

Get your ass back in there byatch! :whip:
 
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Tu-95 BEAR (TUPOLEV)



Russia, Ukraine and India (Bear F) use the Bear.


When the START-1 treaty was signed in 1991, 147 bombers and missile carriers still served in the Russian forces: 84 TU-MS and 63 TU-95K-22, TU-95K and TU-95M. An additional 11 TU-95U were used for training.

After the dissolution of the Soviet Union, one unit of Bear aircraft remained in Ukraine, with twenty three TU-95MS, one TU-95K and one TU-95M aircraft. These aircraft were passed to Ukraine, and were subject to decommissioning under the provisions of the START-1 treaty. A total of 11 strategic bombers and 600 air-launched missiles exchanged by Ukraine to Russia in payment for the gas debt were transferred in mid-February 2000. Two Tu-160 bombers flew from Priluki in the Ukrainian Chernigov region for the Russian air base in Engels. The missiles were sent to Russia by railroad. Three Tu-95MS bombers and six Tu-160 airplanes had already arrived at Engels since October 1999 in fulfillment of the intergovernmental agreements. Before being moved to Russia, 19 Tu-160 airplanes were stationed at the Priluki airfield and 21 Tu-95MS were located in Uzin.

At the time of the breakup of the Soviet Union, thirteen TU-95MS-16 and twenty seven TU- 95MS-6 were based in Kazakhstan. Subsequently, all Bear aircraft located in Kazakhstan were transferred to Russia.

Russian Tu-95 and TU-95MS aircraft are now deployed at two air bases. A total of nineteen TU-95MS16 and two TU-MS6, operating in the 121st heavy bomber air regiment, which forms part of the 22nd Air Division that is headquarteed in Engels Air Base in the Moscow region. At the Ukrainka airbase (73th Heavy Bomber Air Division) at Svobodny, there are 16 TU-95MS16 and 26 TU-95MS6 bombers that were redeployed from the Dolon airbase at Semipalatinsk in Kazakhstan. The TU-95K-22 bombers are subject to decommissioning. In early 1997 five TU-95K-22 were decommissioned and re-equipped in Zngyelse, and five at the Ryazan training center. Eight TU-95 are located at the flight-test institute in at Zhukovskiy [Ramenskoye], and one TU-95K aircraft serves as a static display in Ryazan.

The TU-95MS, constructed in the middle and early 1990s, will be operational until 2010 and 2015. Russia is currently working on a new air-to-surface missile to replace the existing Kh-55.

In late June 1999, two TU-95 Bear bombers flew within striking distance of the United States as part of Moscow's largest military exercise since the end of the Cold War. The bombers were intercepted by four US F-15 fighters and a P-3 patrol plane near Iceland and escorted in a clockwise flight around the island. The Bears, and two Blackjacks, were from the Donbass Red Banner 22nd heavy bomber division based at Engels Air Base east of Moscow. They initially flew across the central Norwegian Sea. When they got about halfway across, the Blackjacks split off from the Bears and flew along the Norwegian coastline.

On 16 September 1999, a pair of Russian Tu-95 Bear bombers were detected by the US Air Force headed toward the Alaska coast. U.S. fighter jets were sent to intercept the aircraft which had been caught on radar. Air Force officials said both bombers turned before crossing into US airspace and about 90 miles from the approaching fighters. The Soviet Union regularly tested U.S. air defenses by flying toward Alaska during the Cold War, but this was the first time the Air Force had documented such a test as happening since March 1993.

Ten Tu-142s entered Indian service in April 1988 for long-range surface surveillance and anti-submarine warfare. According to the 'Times of India,' on 5 Feb 2006, India held negotiations with Russia and Israel to procure 6 to 8 more Tu-142 aircraft. However these negotiations were called off in 2003. It was likely that the aircraft that would have been procured, would have been refurbished ex-VVS storage stocks. India is making substantial purchases of the Novator 3M-54 Alfa missile to equip Kilo class submarines and its new frigates. It is believed that an air-launched variant will be purchased to arm the Tu-142s currently in service and the six to eight additional aircraft being sought by the Navy. If an air-launched version of the Alfa is procured, it is anticipated that India's Tu-22M3s will eventually be equipped to fire them.
 

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^^^It is public knowledge that we have TU 142.

Tu 22 M is unclear.

Like someone earlier said it is too big to hide.
 

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^^^It is public knowledge that we have TU 142.

Tu 22 M is unclear.

Like someone earlier said it is too big to hide.
read the last line of the article above and the post before that.This article is also
fairly recent from 2010.
 
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In 10 Years Russia’s Military and Technical Cooperation with Foreign Countries Will

ROY'S RUSSIAN AIRCRAFT RESOURCE

8. India: Delivery of three Tu-22M3 bombers and 15 Su-30MKI production kits ((TEKHNOLOGICHESKIE KOMPLEKTY)) according to a 7-year contract for the licensed production of 140 such airplanes took place. Two upgraded Il-38SD antisubmarine airplanes were handed over, 3 ZS14Eh vertical launchers for the "Club-N" ((in English)) anti-shipping complexes to be installed on project 17 frigates were delivered, a "Shtil'-1" anti-aircraft complex for project 17 frigates was delivered, and fulfillment of a contract for the delivery of air defense "Tunguska" anti-aircraft missile and gun complexes began.
 

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Actually I wanted to know How far interior can it go when you said Chengdu is within range. Chengdu can be within range only using MKi launched Brahmos.
I don't have figures, but an MKI can fly that far and back with fuel to spare.
 

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cant we have different thread for TU-22 ??? admin guys please remove the pics from this thread.
 

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Russia increased exports of military helicopters and airplanes


Deliveries of Russian military aviation technology abroad in 2011 increased by over 50% compared to 2010, and exceeded 4.8 billion dollars, announced on Friday, the Center for Strategy and Technology.

According to the data center, exported 36 destroyers "Su" for the sum of 1.69 billion. India remained the main importer who received 16 aircraft Su-30 MKI. Total deliveries of helicopters in 2011 totaled 1.73 billion (500 million dollars in 2010). Such an increase is due to start execution of large contracts for the supply of transport helicopters Mi-17B-5 to Afghanistan and India.

Rosja zwiększyła eksport wojennych helikopterów i samolotów: Głos Rosji
 

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They only exported $500 million of helicopters and $500 million of Su-30s... that doesn't sound right.
 

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They only exported $500 million of helicopters and $500 million of Su-30s... that doesn't sound right.
36 Su-30s were imported for 1.69Billion, not 500million. 1.69 over 36 aircraft comes up to $46.6 million per aircraft.

Helicopter deliveries totaled 1.79Billion in 2011 compared to 500million in 2010.

So, that's $3.5Billion in exports last year with just MKIs and Helis. It's quite right because Russia sold around $2Billion to India alone.
 

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They did the conversion from the zloty so those numbers are in Polish currency.
 

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According to the data center, exported 36 destroyers "Su" for the sum of 1.69 billion.
36 Su at $1.69 Billion would be equal to $46.9Million/aircraft.

36 Su at 1.69 Billion Zloty would be equal to $14.6Million/aircraft.

Come on man, there is such a thing as common sense.

The first paragraph specifically mentions $4.8 Billion and not Zloty. The sum for Helicopters is also mentioned in $, not Zloty.

Russia exported nearly $5Billion in 2011. Again, let's give credit where it is due.
 

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It's good to watch a pro-French Frenchman and a Pro-Russian Indian duking it out ...

keep at it guys ..
 
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