Small arms and Light Weapons

[NoobWannaLearn]

POC hai bro.

It's true that it looks hideous, as if someone stole an aluminium book rack and hammered it to a rifle, but its operating mechanism is unique for a weapon designed in India, Gas delayed blowback.

Yea that's good to know innovations lead to success I am sure alot of changes are coming in near future to it's design

 

[kaboom]

 

[Johny_Baba]

you've seen Alofs reloading mechanism for break-open single-fire shotguns
now feast your eyes, modern day reproduction of same mechanism and shotgun combo is available from a Turk manufacturer Sulun Arms, named
Sulun ST-601
product link - https://sulunarms.com/st-601/

 

[karn]

Are there any examples of liquid/gas propellant firearms /auto cannons .

 

[FalconSlayers]

 

[Johny_Baba]

some prototype 'two triggers' INSAS carbine with faux-bullpup fire fireature when stock folded

I know it looks ridiculous and was a ridiculous idea to start with...

...

...but look what i found on internet

MEET AK-74MB

BEFORE YOU THINK IT'S SOME FREAKING GIZMO THAT A VODKA GUZZLING GOPNIK MADE IN HIS BABUSHKAS BACKYARD, I KID YOU NOT, THIS WAS ACTUAL MILITARY PROTOTYPE OF A COST-EFFECTIVE SPECIAL PURPOSE RIFLE KIT FOR THOSE KIND OF UNITS!

YOU CAN SAY, A CHEAPER OTS-14 "GROZA"

MEET ITS DESIGNER WHO IS EQUALLY WACKO LOOKING, NAMED VITALY BOYARKIN

"B" IN AK-74MB STANDS FOR "BOYARKINA" IN CREDIT OF THE DESIGNER

AND THIS HAS ACTUALLY BEEN PATENTED DESIGN IN RUSSIA, FOR SAYING IT OUT LOUD

Автоматическое оружие с комбинированной схемой применения (варианты)

findpatent.ru

AANNDD, EVEN FOR SOME JUGAADU BAKCHODI, THIS MAY VERY WELL HAVE BEEN TRIALED BY THE MILITARY THERE BECAUSE BOTH PICS AND VIDEOS EXIST OF THIS ON FIRING RANGE, ACTUALLY MANY

(MORE IN NEXT POST BECAUSE MEDIA LIMIT)

 

[Johny_Baba]

some prototype 'two triggers' INSAS carbine with faux-bullpup fire fireature when stock folded
View attachment 228066
I know it looks ridiculous and was a ridiculous idea to start with...

...

...but look what i found on internet

MEET AK-74MB
View attachment 228074


BEFORE YOU THINK IT'S SOME FREAKING GIZMO THAT A VODKA GUZZLING GOPNIK MADE IN HIS BABUSHKAS BACKYARD, I KID YOU NOT, THIS WAS ACTUAL MILITARY PROTOTYPE OF A COST-EFFECTIVE SPECIAL PURPOSE RIFLE KIT FOR THOSE KIND OF UNITS!

YOU CAN SAY, A CHEAPER OTS-14 "GROZA"

MEET ITS DESIGNER WHO IS EQUALLY WACKO LOOKING, NAMED VITALY BOYARKIN
View attachment 228073
View attachment 228070
"B" IN AK-74MB STANDS FOR "BOYARKINA" IN CREDIT OF THE DESIGNER

AND THIS HAS ACTUALLY BEEN PATENTED DESIGN IN RUSSIA, FOR SAYING IT OUT LOUD

Автоматическое оружие с комбинированной схемой применения (варианты)

findpatent.ru

AANNDD, EVEN FOR SOME JUGAADU BAKCHODI, THIS MAY VERY WELL HAVE BEEN TRIALED BY THE MILITARY THERE BECAUSE BOTH PICS AND VIDEOS EXIST OF THIS ON FIRING RANGE, ACTUALLY MANY
View attachment 228071
View attachment 228072


(MORE IN NEXT POST BECAUSE MEDIA LIMIT)

SO HOW DOES THIS THANG WORKS ?
> BUTTSTOCK IS MAIN MEME MAGIC HERE, WHICH HAS GOT THIS ADDITIONAL TRIGGER-LINK HOUSED INSIDE THAT, WHEN FOLDED FORWARD, CAN BE USED AS 'FRONT TRIGGER' THAT SHIFTS THE PULL THROUGH IT TO ACTUAL TRIGGER; MAGAZINE DOUBLES AS 'PISTOL GRIP' ON BULLPUP FIRE MODE;
OTHERWISE WHEN STOCK IS FOLDED, IT ACTS JUST LIKE A REGULAR AK
> WHEN BUTTSTOCK GETS FOLDED, AN ADDITIONAL RUBBER-PAD LIKE PIECE COVERS UP THAT OPENED UP REAR OF THE AK NICELY FOR SOMEWHAT-SORT OF COMFORTABLE GRIP ON SHOULDER
> ADDITIONAL FLIP-UP STYLE BACKUP IRON SIGHTS ATTACHED TO MAIN SIGHTS FOR THOSE PURPOSES, ALTERNATIVELY THEY CAN BE FOLDED DOWN AND FURTHER PICATINY RAILS AND SUCH ATTACHMENTS CAN BE PROVIDED ON TOP OF GAS TUBE SIDE FOR OPTICS
> WHAT ABOUT CHEEK REST ? HEH, JUST A PIECE OF RUBBERY COVER WRAPPED ON DUST COVER
> A PIECE OF SOMETHING ATTACHED TO ITS FIRE SELECTOR FOR BETTER GRIP OVER IT ON BULLPUP FIRE MODE
> SOME PROTOTYPES ALSO SHOWN A MODIFIED EXTENDED MAGAZINE LOCK-RELEASE FOR MAYBE FACILITATING BETTER OPERATION OF REMOVAL ON BULLPUP FIRE MODE

SO YEAH, A QUITE JUGAADU THANG
BUT JUDGING FROM VIDEOS IT DID SEEM TO WORK...SOMEWHAT

NEEDLESS TO SAY, GOT SOME ATTENTION AMONG WACKO PEOPLE AT ONE EXTREME CORNER OF THE EARTH

COMING BACK,
DO YOU GUYS THINK THIS IS PROBABLY CASE OF...
...
ARDE BEING AHEAD OF ITS TIME
I MEAN WE CRITICISED THEM EVERYTIME THIS INSAS BULLPUP THANG WAS MENTIONED BUT IDEA DOES SEEM TO WORK SOMEWHAT IF USED WITH ENOUGH INDUCED AUTISM

AFTER SEEING THIS AND THINKING OVER IT, ARDE OR ANYONE THAT WORKED ON INSAS BULLPUP WITH TWO TRIGGERS LEAST DESERVE SOME APOLOGY FROM US, BECAUSE AS PER INTERNET AK-74MB WAS A 2013-14 ERA THING WHILE ARDE TRIED TO PULL SIMILAR THING AROUND '90S WHEN INSAS WAS BEING DESIGNED AND SO

NOW, LET'S GO FULL RETARD FOR A MOMENT AND SAY...

> INSAS BULLPUP THANG WAS AGAIN DONE BY ARDE/DRDO/OFB WHATEVER FOLKS IN PAST LIKE THIS

ERR YUCK SORRY FOR THIS ABSOLUTE KENSUR PROTOTYPE OF '90S ERA
I MEANT LIKE THIS

AND IN 2020S, LIKE THIS

(CROPING OUT UNWANTED BUDHA-BUDHIYA FROM THE PICS )

ALSO,
> OUR BOYS DO FIRE THEIR AKS WITH BUTTSTOCKS FOLDED, COUNTLESS PICS AND VIDS FROM JAMMU-KASHMIR AND ALL, SOME EVEN REMOVED BUTTSTOCKS OFF INSAS FOR THAT
> NOW WE ARE GOING TO INDUCT INDO-RUUSI FAKETORY MADE AK-203 HERE EN MASSE

SO, SO,

KEEPING ALL OF THAT IN MIND,
SAY,
WHAT IF WE MAKE OUR OWN AK-203B HERE, WITH SIMILAR FAUX-BULLPUP BUTTSTOCK HOUSING TRIGGER-LINK AND ALL ?
KNOWING THE GIGA JUGADU NATURE OF THE INDIAN ARMY, THIS WILL BE THE CHEAPEST, QUICKEST, JUGADUEST WAY TO GET OUR GUYS A NOT SO BEST BUT SOMEWHAT WORKABLE BULLPUP-ISED AK RIFLE AND IT WILL WORK JUST AS A REGULAR AK WHEN BUTTSTOCK IS EXTENDED
ALA A JUGAADU, 2-IN-1, AK-203B

IF NOT ALL (OF COURSE NOT GONNA HAPPEN) THEN AT LEAST SOME OF SUCH AK-203B HERE?

WHATTYA SAY OF JOHNY_BABA'S IDEA, FOLKS ?

@Aditya Ballal @Marliii @Twinblade @Kunal Biswas @shuvo@y2k10 @FalconSlayers @NoobWannaLearn @kaboom @ALBY @BlackViking @vampyrbladez @MisraZ @Corvus Splendens @Lonewarrior @Lonewolf @SKC @Spindrift @Haldilal @Love Charger @Arjun Mk1A and all

p.s. one design flow that immediately became apparent from just first glance on pics
> design, even though jugadu and so, is not that left-hand shooter friendly, because that flange of buttstock at its end is big enough to obstruct free movement of firing hand from that side, but i did see a video of some ruusi shooter firing it left-handed, probably awkward grip maybe a bit uncomfortable, but if that protrusion is trimmed out from buttstock (that is already getting modified for this jugaad) then it can be resolved)

 

[Love Charger]

SO HOW DOES THIS THANG WORKS ?
> BUTTSTOCK IS MAIN MEME MAGIC HERE, WHICH HAS GOT THIS ADDITIONAL TRIGGER-LINK HOUSED INSIDE THAT, WHEN FOLDED FORWARD, CAN BE USED AS 'FRONT TRIGGER' THAT SHIFTS THE PULL THROUGH IT TO ACTUAL TRIGGER; MAGAZINE DOUBLES AS 'PISTOL GRIP' ON BULLPUP FIRE MODE;
OTHERWISE WHEN STOCK IS FOLDED, IT ACTS JUST LIKE A REGULAR AK
> WHEN BUTTSTOCK GETS FOLDED, AN ADDITIONAL RUBBER-PAD LIKE PIECE COVERS UP THAT OPENED UP REAR OF THE AK NICELY FOR SOMEWHAT-SORT OF COMFORTABLE GRIP ON SHOULDER
> ADDITIONAL FLIP-UP STYLE BACKUP IRON SIGHTS ATTACHED TO MAIN SIGHTS FOR THOSE PURPOSES, ALTERNATIVELY THEY CAN BE FOLDED DOWN AND FURTHER PICATINY RAILS AND SUCH ATTACHMENTS CAN BE PROVIDED ON TOP OF GAS TUBE SIDE FOR OPTICS
> WHAT ABOUT CHEEK REST ? HEH, JUST A PIECE OF RUBBERY COVER WRAPPED ON DUST COVER
> A PIECE OF SOMETHING ATTACHED TO ITS FIRE SELECTOR FOR BETTER GRIP OVER IT ON BULLPUP FIRE MODE
> SOME PROTOTYPES ALSO SHOWN A MODIFIED EXTENDED MAGAZINE LOCK-RELEASE FOR MAYBE FACILITATING BETTER OPERATION OF REMOVAL ON BULLPUP FIRE MODE

SO YEAH, A QUITE JUGAADU THANG
BUT JUDGING FROM VIDEOS IT DID SEEM TO WORK...SOMEWHAT

NEEDLESS TO SAY, GOT SOME ATTENTION AMONG WACKO PEOPLE AT ONE EXTREME CORNER OF THE EARTH
View attachment 228075
View attachment 228076

COMING BACK,
DO YOU GUYS THINK THIS IS PROBABLY CASE OF...
...
ARDE BEING AHEAD OF ITS TIME
I MEAN WE CRITICISED THEM EVERYTIME THIS INSAS BULLPUP THANG WAS MENTIONED BUT IDEA DOES SEEM TO WORK SOMEWHAT IF USED WITH ENOUGH INDUCED AUTISM

AFTER SEEING THIS AND THINKING OVER IT, ARDE OR ANYONE THAT WORKED ON INSAS BULLPUP WITH TWO TRIGGERS LEAST DESERVE SOME APOLOGY FROM US, BECAUSE AS PER INTERNET AK-74MB WAS A 2013-14 ERA THING WHILE ARDE TRIED TO PULL SIMILAR THING AROUND '90S WHEN INSAS WAS BEING DESIGNED AND SO

NOW, LET'S GO FULL RETARD FOR A MOMENT AND SAY...

> INSAS BULLPUP THANG WAS AGAIN DONE BY ARDE/DRDO/OFB WHATEVER FOLKS IN PAST LIKE THIS
View attachment 228077
ERR YUCK SORRY FOR THIS ABSOLUTE KENSUR PROTOTYPE OF '90S ERA
I MEANT LIKE THIS
View attachment 228080
AND IN 2020S, LIKE THIS
View attachment 228081
(CROPING OUT UNWANTED BUDHA-BUDHIYA FROM THE PICS )

ALSO,
> OUR BOYS DO FIRE THEIR AKS WITH BUTTSTOCKS FOLDED, COUNTLESS PICS AND VIDS FROM JAMMU-KASHMIR AND ALL, SOME EVEN REMOVED BUTTSTOCKS OFF INSAS FOR THAT
> NOW WE ARE GOING TO INDUCT INDO-RUUSI FAKETORY MADE AK-203 HERE EN MASSE

SO, SO,

KEEPING ALL OF THAT IN MIND,
SAY,
WHAT IF WE MAKE OUR OWN AK-203B HERE, WITH SIMILAR FAUX-BULLPUP BUTTSTOCK HOUSING TRIGGER-LINK AND ALL ?
KNOWING THE GIGA JUGADU NATURE OF THE INDIAN ARMY, THIS WILL BE THE CHEAPEST, QUICKEST, JUGADUEST WAY TO GET OUR GUYS A NOT SO BEST BUT SOMEWHAT WORKABLE BULLPUP-ISED AK RIFLE AND IT WILL WORK JUST AS A REGULAR AK WHEN BUTTSTOCK IS EXTENDED
ALA A JUGAADU, 2-IN-1, AK-203B

IF NOT ALL (OF COURSE NOT GONNA HAPPEN) THEN AT LEAST SOME OF SUCH AK-203B HERE?

WHATTYA SAY OF JOHNY_BABA'S IDEA, FOLKS ?

@Aditya Ballal @Marliii @Twinblade @Kunal Biswas @shuvo@y2k10 @FalconSlayers @NoobWannaLearn @kaboom @ALBY @BlackViking @vampyrbladez @MisraZ @Corvus Splendens @Lonewarrior @Lonewolf @SKC @Spindrift @Haldilal @Love Charger @Arjun Mk1A and all

p.s. one design flow that immediately became apparent from just first glance on pics
> design, even though jugadu and so, is not that left-hand shooter friendly, because that flange of buttstock at its end is big enough to obstruct free movement of firing hand from that side, but i did see a video of some ruusi shooter firing it left-handed, probably awkward grip maybe a bit uncomfortable, but if that protrusion is trimmed out from buttstock (that is already getting modified for this jugaad) then it can be resolved)

Why even need a bullpup ak , dont we have tavors ? Baba ji is wise , he probably is aware that
Unnecessary jugad often leads to doom ?

 

[SKC]

Why even need a bullpup ak , dont we have tavors ? Baba ji is wise , he probably is aware that
Unnecessary jugad often leads to doom ?

Whether the result is beneficial or not, R&D keeps on going.

I love only 1 bullpup the legendary Steyr AUG:

 

[kaboom]

Yall bullpup lovers

 

[Twinblade]

Whether the result is beneficial or not, R&D keeps on going.

I love only 1 bullpup the legendary Steyr AUG:
View attachment 228119

De bullpup a Steyr

STM-556-RS-556 Assault Rifle - Modern Firearms

The STM-556 Assault Rifle was first introduced in 2012 by Steyr-Mannlicher. It is based on the M4 Carbine, but with other features based on the Steyr Aug.

modernfirearms.net

 

[FireStar]

dont know if this has been posted before.

 

[Hari Sud]

Curious to know how has the Ak203 rifle factory in Amethi succeeded in its manufacture of rifles.

1. How many manufactured in this year and how many delivered to the Army?

2. How has the Army reacted to this replacement?

3. What much is the Indian content in these rifles?

4. What is the quality of 7.62X39 ammunition for this rifle?

 

[Love Charger]

Curious to know how has the Ak203 rifle factory in Amethi succeeded in its manufacture of rifles.

1. How many manufactured in this year and how many delivered to the Army?

2. How has the Army reacted to this replacement?

3. What much is the Indian content in these rifles?

4. What is the quality of 7.62X39 ammunition for this rifle?

Ak 203 rifle is an enigma sir ,details about it are so elusive that it seems that the factory and the rifle don't exist !!!!

 

[Arjun Mk1A]

Curious to know how has the Ak203 rifle factory in Amethi succeeded in its manufacture of rifles.

1. How many manufactured in this year and how many delivered to the Army?

2. How has the Army reacted to this replacement?

3. What much is the Indian content in these rifles?

4. What is the quality of 7.62X39 ammunition for this rifle?

Only God knows what is happening there?

 

[Love Charger]

Only God knows what is happening there?

Wrong not even bhagwan knows whis is happening there.
I mean
They might be making theeee , I mean theeee ultimate assault rifle of all times ( which is again not necessarily ak 203 ) , they simply might be making ak 203 , or they might be doing nothing.

 

[Aditya Ballal]

AK-203 with BEL Holographic Sight mounted on it.

 

[FireStar]

View attachment 228408
AK-203 with BEL Holographic Sight mounted on it.

You sure this is indian army? they look decently equipped. maybe its just for photo-op.

 

[Bleh]

No its his personal take i believe

I'm of same opinion.. carbine front head been too silent for too long & frankly if you have 7.62×39 in drive for CQB then no point having 5.56 again.

 

[Corvus Splendens]

Oh lord

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