Small arms and Light Weapons

[Kalashnikov Operator1]

 

[MisraZ]

Wtf...

 

[SGOperative]

Wtf...

These guys are equipped better than your other groups, they might take the top spot from JeM.

 

[Lonewarrior]

Wtf...

Ammo kharidne me bund fatt jaayegi...

But on a serious note, now they are really focusing on armour penetration. First it was green tip, now this

 

[MisraZ]

These guys are equipped better than your other groups, they might take the top spot from JeM.

It's a JeM offshoot only. Rebatched with a stupid name to avoid sanctions.

 

[Marliii]

And people were questioning why SOG needed 7.62x51 rifles.these lunatics are armed highly from afghan small arms so there PC protection is just military grade this ruger 57 was introduced only in 2019 and still it made it to here LOL

 

[MisraZ]

Ammo kharidne me bund fatt jaayegi...

But on a serious note, now they are really focusing on armour penetration. First it was green tip, now this

These fuckers are now focusing on compact weapons w/ AP rounds.

 

[Vayuputra]

Ammo kharidne me bund fatt jaayegi...

But on a serious note, now they are really focusing on armour penetration. First it was green tip, now this

ammo hve to be imported, will cost bomb , anyhve, it will aoon endup with RRs,

 

[MisraZ]

ammo hve to be imported, will cost bomb , anyhve, it will aoon endup with RRs,

Porki SSG has p90s so I guess they'll supply them the ammo

 

[Johny_Baba]

Wtf...

Time our forces adopt to 5.56x30mm Pistol,
as JVPC already is making ingress in units and a potential contender for Sterling 'carbine' replacement

 

[Aditya Ballal]

Time our forces adopt to 5.56x30mm Pistol,
as JVPC already is making ingress in units and a potential contender for Sterling 'carbine' replacement

What changes would you like to see in the existing JVPC? IMO they should adopt an ASMI like Aluminium Handguard and get rid of the fixed sights and use BUIS like ASMI. Also change the grip as I’ve heard from others that users find it uncomfortable.

 

[Lonewarrior]

What changes would you like to see in the existing JVPC? IMO they should adopt an ASMI like Aluminium Handguard and get rid of the fixed sights and use BUIS like ASMI. Also change the grip as I’ve heard from others that users find it uncomfortable.

And make it bit compact.

Compared to MP7; which's exactly same as JVPC in terms of operation, it looks too big.

 

[SGOperative]

And make it bit compact.

Compared to MP7; which's exactly same as JVPC in terms of operation, it looks too big.

P90s is big too i dont think form factor is a issue here

 

[SGOperative]

It's a JeM offshoot only. Rebatched with a stupid name to avoid sanctions.

I dont really believe that, To me it looks like a new group with new way of doing stuff which we saw in Afghanistan and western border of Afghanistan.

 

[Johny_Baba]

What changes would you like to see in the existing JVPC? IMO they should adopt an ASMI like Aluminium Handguard and get rid of the fixed sights and use BUIS like ASMI. Also change the grip as I’ve heard from others that users find it uncomfortable.

Buttstock, first and foremost,

my TG fren, first hand user of current JVPC, also a DFIan, complained about it being finicky and so,

rest what you mentioned...

 

[Lonewarrior]

P90s is big too i dont think form factor is a issue here

P90 is big for its own reasons.
- Among all the PDWs, it's most comfortable to shoot. But to achieve that, it's has a really big and wide buttstock.
- It has a 50 round magazine; again the biggest among all PDW.
- And lastly, rounds are not arranged parallel to the barrel. They are perpendicular. So that also increases the width.

Definitely not an issue, but will be a pro

 

[Kuldeepm952]

7.62x51=devils pill, 7.62x39=survivable. I want the drugs this dude is doing.

Oh Bhai, mujhe maaf karo, aur in cave logic walo ko dhoond ke ped se baandho. Matlab kuch bhi.
Ye ammo Wale logic bande k drugs cheeno b isse, jyada hi solution soongh liya h is bande n.
Ye upar wale logic ko padh k eyes m phenyl daalna pda.

 

[Kuldeepm952]

And make it bit compact.

Compared to MP7; which's exactly same as JVPC in terms of operation, it looks too big.

JVPC was made for carbine roles and never was intended as a pdw. It has 12 inch barrel compared to 7 inch mp7 barrel, pretty big difference.
IMO, a new cleanshit design would be needed for a minsas round based pdw. But we won't see it coz forces won't ask for it rather import such weapons and hence no one would make it.

 

[Aditya Ballal]

Indian Coast Guard Personnel armed with OFB Amogh 5.56x30 mm MINSAS Carbine/PDW.
Each time I see the Coast Guard guys with Amoghs and JVPCs, I feel bad for the Navy VBSS guys.

 

[Lonewarrior]

JVPC was made for carbine roles and never was intended as a pdw. It has 12 inch barrel compared to 7 inch mp7 barrel, pretty big difference.

Well that's how quantum leap works in Indian defence industry; it goes backwards.

- It's 2021, we still don't have a short stroke piston gun.
- As of now we haven't designed a single belt-fed gun.
- ...A pistol...