Small arms and Light Weapons

[FalconSlayers]

No one expected green tips, but they are here.
No one had ever imagined in there wildest dreams that they'll have AP pistols, but they are here.

Wait and you'll see Chinese plates too.

They have been here for long, not new.
Like this for example, even before American fuckup in Afghanistan.

 

[Aditya Ballal]

CRPF Doctor with an East German MPi KM-72 7.62x39 mm Assault Rifle equipped with Trijicon ACOG Scope.

 

[MisraZ]

SKS w/ a drum mag . I'm waiting for a day when Iraqis mount a drum mag on a bolt action rifle.

 

[The Shrike]

Army awards $2.7B fire control systems contract for its Next Generation Squad Weapons - Breaking Defense

The Next Generation Squad Weapons program is one of the Army's 35 modernization priorities.

breakingdefense.com

Upto $2.7B for 250k optics i.e. each optic/FCS is ~$10k .

 

[FalconSlayers]

Army awards $2.7B fire control systems contract for its Next Generation Squad Weapons - Breaking Defense

The Next Generation Squad Weapons program is one of the Army's 35 modernization priorities.

breakingdefense.com

Upto $2.7B for 250k optics i.e. each optic/FCS is ~$10k .

For them its dirt cheap coz their budget is 780 billion dollars and these systems will serve for decades in US Army.

 

[The Shrike]

For them its dirt cheap coz their budget is 780 billion dollars and these systems will serve for decades in US Army.

Don't worry mate, when we reach 10 trillion USD economy...

Spoiler

we would have killed enough paki tangos with last season's gucci optics to equip out tier 1/2 forces at least. Problem solved!

 

[The Shrike]

BTW in the recent chinese galwan propaganda video - some of the PLA soldiers appear to be carrying AKs (or is that actually their new service rifle not AK) instead of the regular QBZ, is that normal or a recent change?

 

[Johny_Baba]

BTW in the recent chinese galwan propaganda video - some of the PLA soldiers appear to be carrying AKs (or is that actually their new service rifle not AK) instead of the regular QBZ, is that normal or a recent change?

That's their reserves rifle QBZ-03, technically a short stroke gas piston AK in two piece sectioned receiver design, needless to say also chambered in 5.8x42mm

 

[SGOperative]

BTW in the recent chinese galwan propaganda video - some of the PLA soldiers appear to be carrying AKs (or is that actually their new service rifle not AK) instead of the regular QBZ, is that normal or a recent change?

Their Reserve rifle, interesting thing is instead of getting glimpse of their newer rifle we are getting reserve gun.

 

[Whitecollar]

 

[Lonewarrior]

Their Reserve rifle, interesting thing is instead of getting glimpse of their newer rifle we are getting reserve gun.

For China we are still their near-peer adversary; so it makes sense.

Moreover if you look closely, you'll find an interesting pattern. Most of the Chinese weapons never enter full production.
Each year n number of new weapon platforms; from rifles to air defence systems are showcased at different expos. But after a few years no one buys them in significant numbers. Not even their own forces.

 

[Johny_Baba]

probably trigger group issue, like default 7.62 NATO one's strike from hammer is perhaps a bit too powerful for primers of 6.5 Creedmoor, that firing pin penetrates through and blows up primers instead of making dimple-igniting it from inside etc,
and when SCAR design has retracting firing pin design it easily gets lodged inside those parts etc...

probably some tuning of tension on hammer spring and/or adjustments in hammer (increasing its mass etc) would solve the issue, me thinks.

 

[Lonewarrior]

probably trigger group issue, like default 7.62 NATO one's strike from hammer is perhaps a bit too powerful for primers of 6.5 Creedmoor, that firing pin penetrates through and blows up primers instead of making dimple-igniting it from inside etc,
and when SCAR design has retracting firing pin design it easily gets lodged inside those parts etc...

probably some tuning of tension on hammer spring and/or adjustments in hammer (increasing its mass etc) would solve the issue, me thinks.

That's one way of approaching the problem.

The other one is using "military" grade primer.

 

[Johny_Baba]

That's one way of approaching the problem.

The other one is using "military" grade primer.

of course yes, could be an ammo issue too,
but Mac here did mention at end of vdo that he tested various available 6.5mm Creedmoor on it and almost all of them shown this issue, frequency of issue occuring was more in some and vice versa etc, so i believe there is some mismatch between strike of hammer and minimum metallic strength of those primers etc

 

[Lonewarrior]

Army awards $2.7B fire control systems contract for its Next Generation Squad Weapons - Breaking Defense

The Next Generation Squad Weapons program is one of the Army's 35 modernization priorities.

breakingdefense.com

Upto $2.7B for 250k optics i.e. each optic/FCS is ~$10k .

There are two factors working here.

First and foremost; as others have clearly mentioned, budget.
For them this $10K sight is of almost same value as a $7xx EoTech would be for us; if we see the cost as percentage of budget.

Second and the bit surprising one; a fire control system for $10K is comparatively cheaper.
What we actually see as a Vortex or L3Harris sight is actually two seperate systems working together; one is an "active reticle" and other is a LPVO.

1. If we look at all the available "active reticle" sights or those smart scopes that constantly changes the zero to compensate for different parameters, we can get an estimate.

- FN FCU; no data about cost but only a handful of systems have been spotted in wild. This can give a good idea about the cost.
- FN Elity; as of now no data on sales.
- Smash 2000; closest rival to NGSW-FC. Each sight costs $13.5K
- TrackingPoint; $6K. But worth noting is that it's exponentially large compared to NGSW-FC and also a hunting sight; not military specs.

2. As for the 1-8x 30mm LPVO part, it's very straightforward to get the price. It'll be in the ballpark of $0.5K.

Combining both you get a range of $6.5-14K.

But there is massive flaw in this assumption. There are two things which NGSW-FC brings on the table for the very first time.
- displaying an active reticle on top of a 1-8x LPVO. Be it Smash or Elity or BORS; no one does this.
- higher efficiency in term of SWaP.

Hope this would make things bit more clear.

 

[shiphone]

QBZ03 used to be a parallel project or backup for QBZ95 coz the bullpup design seemed to be a little Radical at that time. the so called 'QBZ-95A' project code means everything.

when QBZ-95 got the official approval, this type 03 also passed the national tests. the position of this rifle seemed a little awkward and then it was decided that the The secondary forces would equip it including the border forces and Armed Police，

the Disassembly status and so called 'short stroke gas piston' and ‘two-piece sectioned receiver design'...

BTW..here's the virtual immediate relative :Type 87A --the improved varient of 1st gen 5.8mm Type87 rifle.

For China we are still their near-peer adversary; so it makes sense.

Moreover if you look closely, you'll find an interesting pattern. Most of the Chinese weapons never enter full production.
Each year n number of new weapon platforms; from rifles to air defence systems are showcased at different expos. But after a few years no one buys them in significant numbers. Not even their own forces.

very funny statement and a strange logic behind it, or just blind here?

'near-peer adversary'........hoho... it might be more comforting that saying 'PLA will operate with the same standard on any Directions of border defense'-- border force ahead and field force behind.

PLA approved projects must enter the full production. the loser in bidding or export projects will try hard to find the other way to succeed.. lol

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

 

[NotASussyBoi]

bye bye insas lmg,hello almost no recoil negev

 

[FalconSlayers]

 

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