Small arms and Light Weapons

[Kuldeepm952]

Well that's how quantum leap works in Indian defence industry; it goes backwards.

- It's 2021, we still don't have a short stroke piston gun.
- As of now we haven't designed a single belt-fed gun.
- ...A pistol...

I have already given up on Indian procurement and forces dumb QRs after ak 103 deal and the apparent zoo we will be having. I mean people defending ak non telescopic buttstock in today's day and age, please keep your Gyan to yourself to such people.

 

[Aditya Ballal]

Well that's how quantum leap works in Indian defence industry; it goes backwards.

- It's 2021, we still don't have a short stroke piston gun.
- As of now we haven't designed a single belt-fed gun.
- ...A pistol...

What system did the MCIWS use?

 

[Lonewarrior]

What system did the MCIWS use?

Ummm......Black Magic

 

[Johny_Baba]

What system did the MCIWS use?

AK pattern Long stroke gas piston system initally,

*said to be* short stroke one later on but i am doubtful, looks like they added a gas regulator on it from previous unregulated one etc...

 

[Tactical Doge]

Kek why wine about armour pircing and 5.56x30/5.7x28mm shit, when you can get off the shelf rifles (read bund blasting devices) chambered in 458 SOCOM to beat the shit out of Pakroaches?

Damn

Spoiler

 

[Lonewarrior]

AK pattern Long stroke gas piston system initally,

*said to be* short stroke one later on but i am doubtful, looks like they added a gas regulator on it from previous unregulated one etc...

Arre Bhai, it's most probably still long stroke

 

[Johny_Baba]

Arre Bhai, it's most probably still long strokeView attachment 130506

That's what i said naa, they say it's short stroke gas piston one in current avataar but i am doubtful etc...

 

[ManhattanProject]

Oh Bhai, mujhe maaf karo, aur in cave logic walo ko dhoond ke ped se baandho. Matlab kuch bhi.
Ye ammo Wale logic bande k drugs cheeno b isse, jyada hi solution soongh liya h is bande n.
Ye upar wale logic ko padh k eyes m phenyl daalna pda.

kya bolu inko? people get stuck on bullet diameter and forget every other thing. They act like 22 bullet equals to nothing, 7.62 is death. The whole thing is very debatable and nuanced, they have to do their own research.

 

[ManhattanProject]

Arre Bhai, it's most probably still long strokeView attachment 130506

Its feels like short stroke to me, we are all guessing though.

 

[Whitecollar]

kya bolu inko? people get stuck on bullet diameter and forget every other thing. They act like 22 bullet equals to nothing, 7.62 is death. The whole thing is very debatable and nuanced, they have to do their own research.

Kya bolna hai mujhe?? To fir ye btao bhaiya ke jab ghar pe TAR and Ghatak padi hui thi to padosi se double price pe 716 kharidne ki kya zarurat padi wo v Kashmir Police jaisi units ko??

Aatmanirbhar ko da-nirbhar bana k rakhe hue and no allignment to Centre's initiative regarding procurement.

 

[Lonewarrior]

NSG is more or less a SWAT type force.
Rescuing hostages and neutralizing terrorist.

Why did they needed M249s?
Ok leave it, a year ago there was a RFI for 7.62x51mm machine gun.

Indigenisation doesn't mean you'll shove whatever you want to just because it's Made in India. It means making things of such quality that even foreign forces are forced to induct them.

 

[SGOperative]

Kya bolna hai mujhe?? To fir ye btao bhaiya ke jab ghar pe TAR and Ghatak padi hui thi to padosi se double price pe 716 kharidne ki kya zarurat padi wo v Kashmir Police jaisi units ko??

Aatmanirbhar ko da-nirbhar bana k rakhe hue and no allignment to Centre's initiative regarding procurement.

716 is NATO 7.62 round which is the India Alternative? And Kashmir Jaisi Police unit ka kya matlab hai?

 

[SGOperative]

NSG is more or less a SWAT type force.
Rescuing hostages and neutralizing terrorist.

Why did they needed M249s?
Ok leave it, a year ago there was a RFI for 7.62x51mm machine gun.

Indigenisation doesn't mean you'll shove whatever you want to just because it's Made in India. It means making things of such quality that even foreign forces are forced to induct them.

NSG is a CT Force for god sake. No one knows where they can be pressed its better to have it and not need rather need it and not have it.

 

[Aditya Ballal]

This is however an older version with the crude blue button system and his since been replaced with an EOTECH like button system.

Experts what do y’all think about the reticle and glass?

 

[Lonewarrior]

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This is however an older version with the crude blue button system and his since been replaced with an EOTECH like button system.
View attachment 130633
Experts what do y’all think about the reticle and glass?

It's good, considering the level of expertise we had.
But still we have a long way to go.

 

[Lonewarrior]

NSG is a CT Force for god sake. No one knows where they can be pressed its better to have it and not need rather need it and not have it.

Eggsactly, people miss the point that same applies to J&K SOG.

A 2,500 strong force got a batch of 500 rifles and "...hungama hai kyon barpa!?"

 

[SGOperative]

Eggsactly, people miss the point that same applies to J&K SOG.

A 2,500 strong force got a of batch 500 rifles and "...hungama hai kyon barpa!?"

I dint get your SOG Part? And what ever you said hope you factored in that JKP along with CRPF is taking over armys tasking in the Urban areas more now.

 

[Lonewarrior]

I dint get your SOG Part? And what ever you said hope you factored in that JKP along with CRPF is taking over armys tasking in the Urban areas more now.

No one expected green tips, but they are here.
No one had ever imagined in there wildest dreams that they'll have AP pistols, but they are here.

Wait and you'll see Chinese plates too.

 

[FalconSlayers]

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This is however an older version with the crude blue button system and his since been replaced with an EOTECH like button system.
View attachment 130633
Experts what do y’all think about the reticle and glass?

Typical 0.5 MOA reticle. Brilliant!

 

[FalconSlayers]

Eggsactly, people miss the point that same applies to J&K SOG.

A 2,500 strong force got a batch of 500 rifles and "...hungama hai kyon barpa!?"

They need it for DMRs, why? Because they now want to knock them off from a distance or kill those insurgents in close quarters with their MPX during hit op instead of doing CASOs where shit tonnes of armoured vehicles and soldiers get involved to kill just 1-2 guys with AK-47s.