Small arms and Light Weapons

[Johny_Baba]

You know what sirji , during recent military exercises in Russia , Pakistanis used ak 103 only .
The accuracy of insas used by our men to ak 103 at similar distance was not much different
I don't remember the scores though , both were equal i guess
Iam not even a noobda as far as fire arms are concerned , but I don't think the 7.62 39 mm bullet drop should be a concern.

Hhmm could you please post pics in appropriate thread ? (there is a porkshitstan military pics thread somewhere), would like to see them

 

[FalconSlayers]

Hhmm could you please post pics in appropriate thread ? (there is a porkshitstan military pics thread somewhere), would like to see them

Those AKs were provided by Ruskies

 

[Love Charger]

Those AKs were provided by Ruskies

Then why indian army used Insas?

 

[SGOperative]

Then why indian army used Insas?

Aise hi sexy lag raha tha

 

[Love Charger]

Aise hi sexy lag raha tha

Well the Chinese were using their own QBZ 95s .

 

[SGOperative]

Well the Chinese were using their own QBZ 95s .

Paki might have wanted to save their ammo waise hi gareeb hai

 

[Love Charger]

Paki might have wanted to save their ammo waise hi gareeb hai

Except us and the Chinese , almost all other nations used kalashnikovs .
Which ever variant it might be.

 

[Whitecollar]

Except us and the Chinese , almost all other nations used kalashnikovs .
Which ever variant it might be.

Wasn't the QBZ 95 inspired by AK platform??

 

[SGOperative]

Wasn't the QBZ 95 inspired by AK platform??

I thought it was FAMAS

 

[Love Charger]

Wasn't the QBZ 95 inspired by AK platform??

I don't know

 

[Whitecollar]

I don't know

1st image: Type 86s (AK bullpup mod)
2nd image: QBZ 95 (used DPB87)

 

[Aditya Ballal]

This setup would have probably costed less than AK203

Nope, mod kit according to Maj Avinash costs nearly as much as a Modern AK with the same features.

 

[Whitecollar]

Well funny thing is this I want to express my thoughts through a meme what Indian Army must’ve gone through while evluating the 7.62x39mm CZ BREN.
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[Johny_Baba]

I thought it was FAMAS

QBZ-95 program was actually a competition tbh, where many designs (at least 4 i am aware of) competed against each others designed by joint group of experts and some university interns-like fellows etc...one of the variant eerily looked similar to FAMAS, perhaps this is the origin of myth that it is FAMAS based, albeit it is also virtually unknown for us non-chinese people here how exactly those 4 different prototypes worked or their internals etc...one would have to visit their museum and ask around to get some detailed info

requesting our chinese members here @no smoking @shiphone @lixun etc to provide some info if they could about QBZ program, prototypes etc...

anyway final variant that became THE QBZ-95 is a short-stoke gas piston system AK like weapon in bullpup configuration that took basic build and ergonomics ques from FAMAS
in standard issue rifle variant and carbine variant etc the trigger group is of striker fired type, in marksman variant QBU-88 trigger group is of kalashnikov one based hammer fired type.

 

[Love Charger]

1st image: Type 86s (AK bullpup mod)
2nd image: QBZ 95 (used DPB87)

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First one looks cursed

 

[Aditya Ballal]

A little ironic don’t y’all think?

 

[Lonewarrior]

A little ironic don’t y’all think?

And that's the whole reason I hate this guy and his firm.

F-ing Dilip Chhabria, pretending to be Elon Musk.

 

[Johny_Baba]

A little ironic don’t y’all think?

being honest Viv Krishnan is indeed right about one point, you shall see it in this post,
notice the buttstock part...you see there are actually two buttstock adapters here ?

first adapter of course is on rear receiver side of the rifle itself with that round button, and other adapter is there from FAB kit...so this jugaadu arrangement not only uses two adapters for affixing a length adjustable buttstock but also, trichy's adapter folds on right side of the weapon while FAB one folds on left side...so both adapters are actually opposite side folding ones here!

^THIS is why standardisation matters...you can always jugaad out things for upgrades but then such things happen when their aim is only like 'just get it done' instead of 'get it done properly'...

I still have high hopes with Trichy and wish it from bottom of my heart that they just don't blindly kopy paste it but use their own fucking brains to make a true equivalent to what we are getting from russians instead of just experimenting out like this

 

[Aditya Ballal]

being honest Viv Krishnan is indeed right about one point, you shall see it in this post,
notice the buttstock part...you see there are actually two buttstock adapters here ?
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first adapter of course is on rear receiver side of the rifle itself with that round button, and other adapter is there from FAB kit...so this jugaadu arrangement not only uses two adapters for affixing a length adjustable buttstock but also, trichy's adapter folds on right side of the weapon while FAB one folds on left side...so both adapters are actually opposite side folding ones here!

^THIS is why standardisation matters...you can always jugaad out things for upgrades but then such things happen when their aim is only like 'just get it done' instead of 'get it done properly'...

I still have high hopes with Trichy and wish it from bottom of my heart that they just don't blindly kopy paste it but use their own fucking brains to make a true equivalent to what we are getting from russians instead of just experimenting out like this

Why do you think they’ve done this extra jugaad?
Shouldn’t the FAB Defense Buttstock for milled AKs be a direct fit? Or is the stock that of a stamped AK and the extra Trichy adapter to compensate for that?

 

[Lonewarrior]

So everything comes down to Butt

Anyways, the last time OFB used a Fab made stock, it was absolutely flawless.

So they very well know how to use a Fab stock.

The only question is, why they went full retard this time?