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Fire a Carl Gustav and obliterate it.

These will the primary targets, US found that soldiers carrying M249 became primary targets.


These wouldn't be any different.

If they are used to carry loads do extra heavy duty work, then that is fine by me. But walking APCs will be primary targets and they would soon turn into liability than an asset. Not to mention the cost of these "walking APCs"
Tesla is making tremendous leaps and bounds in terms of battery powered car. There car can run 200 miles on a single charge and those cars cost 40 to 60 thousands dollars. If they can do commercial technology that can do 200 miles on a single charge then surely they can make a military grade exoskeleton suit that can do much better. They can even minimise the costing by mass production.
For the bold part- Everything has countermeasures and different equipment have different purpose.
If what you said was the case then tanks and choppers would have been obsolete by now.
 

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Pak-sponsored terrorists with Chinese weapons making counter-insurgency in Kashmir bloodier
During US defence secretary Gen (Retd) James Mattis’ visit to India last September 26, the bilateral discussion veered around to terrorism emanating from Afghanistan-Pakistan-Iran region. One of Indian national security experts argued before Mattis that three fundamental ingredients were required for terrorism to flourish in a region. They were ready supply of radicalised cadre, weapons, explosives and ammunition, and funding.

The Indian expert, as an afterthought, said there was a fourth ingredient as well that ensured terrorism is sustained virtually indefinitely. The fourth element was the State. He said if the State starts sponsoring terror then it becomes a never-ending game as it has an infinite capability to provide radicalised cadre, weapons and funds to target its enemies all over the world.

The purport of the expert’s logic was not lost on Mattis as everyone knew that the finger were being pointed at Pakistan even though Iran has also exported terror against Sunni states and Israel. The Pakistani State alone houses 44 domestic and pan-Islamic organisations, which have routinely targeted Afghanistan and India in the name of jihad and Ummah.

The involvement of the Pakistani State, particularly the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) in targeting India, has been well documented but has now reached a new level where Chinese-manufactured war ordnance is being passed to jihadists to kill in Kashmir.



On August 26, eight Indian troopers, including four CRPF jawans, lost their lives in a Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM) suicide attack at a police camp in Pulwama, south Kashmir. The attack on police lines was repelled and three JeM terrorists died in the attack — two AK-47s and one AK-56 assault rifles, eight to 10 Chinese grenades, ammunition and an underbarrel rocket launcher were recovered. Investigation revealed that one of the bullets had pierced the bulletproof shield of a CRPF trooper and fatally hit the defender. Recoveries and forensic examination of the ammunition seized has confirmed that the JeM terrorists had used armour-piercing ammunition to target the Indian troopers.

While it is still being ascertained whether the ammunition was being tipped with explosive or incendiary substance, which explodes after penetrating the target, the mere usage of army-grade top-end ammunition by jihadists reveals the deep linkage between the Pakistani State and the pan-Islamic terrorists.

While human rights activists in Kashmir are harping about the usage of pellet guns against over ground supporters of Pakistan-based groups, the usage armour-piercing ammunition as well as hard steel rounds has dramatically escalated the counter-insurgency battle in Kashmir. Investigations show that armour-piercing ammunition has Chinese origins, which were imported by the Pakistan army in the first place as war stores.

The fact is that the military tactical or strategic capability of both North Korea and Pakistan has Chinese origins with no cost to the mother state. And Pakistan gets full marks in all four elements of terrorism which were discussed with Mattis.


Just as US needs to put pressure on China to drill sense into a rogue State like North Korea, Washington now understands that Pakistan will never allow Afghanistan to stabilise as an independent state till jihadists and their handlers are in power.

:pound:Pakistan’s foreign minister Khawaja Muhammad Asif’s apology to global terrorist Hafiz Saeed on a TV channel:pound::pound: for remarks made by the politician in his recent US visit shows the clout of jihadists in that nation.
It is evident that Asif was so scared of Saeed that he ended up calling Prime Minister Narendra Modi a “terrorist” in a bid to appease the man who carries a $10 million bounty on his head.

The Tuesday attack on a BSF camp near the Srinagar airport by three JeM terrorists shows that Masood Azhar, emir of JeM, is now the favourite terror boy of the Pakistani establishment with Saeed’s Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) put on the backburner due to US pressure. There is evidence now that both Azhar and Saeed used their cadre to safely house Al Qaeda fighters and shura in Pakistan during the post-9/11 Afghan war.

The blood of Indian security men is also on hands of Beijing which continues to block the efforts to designate Azhar a global terrorist by the United Nations for the past years despite global requests.

While the Trump administration has been making noises of putting Pakistan to stake for its terrorism record, India needs to ensure that Islamabad is made to pay for jihadi attacks through overt or covert means. The September 29, 2016 surgical strikes were a technology demonstrator of India’s capabilities with the Pakistan war machine and jihadists caught unawares.

Even though the India-Pakistan backchannel remains open, New Delhi realises that there is little achieved as Rawalpindi GHQ has the current political dispensation by the scruff of its neck. Modi realises that the answer to Pakistan lies in widening the techno-military gap and not in verbally reminding Islamabad of past bilateral promises.


http://www.hindustantimes.com/opini...ir-bloodier/story-MkIMDPSNSG4nReucYMa0KK.html
 

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Tesla is making tremendous leaps and bounds in terms of battery powered car. There car can run 200 miles on a single charge and those cars cost 40 to 60 thousands dollars. If they can do commercial technology that can do 200 miles on a single charge then surely they can make a military grade exoskeleton suit that can do much better. They can even minimise the costing by mass production.
For the bold part- Everything has countermeasures and different equipment have different purpose.
If what you said was the case then tanks and choppers would have been obsolete by now.
There is always time and place for every weapon.

M1A1s which destroyed Iraqi mechanized infantry........ were destroyed in the hands of iraqi guerrilla fighters who are less sophisticated than regular army(they lack the command structure); they Used RPG-7s to destroy them.

Mil 24s which were expected to destroy NATO tank lines (according to Soviet study, 17 NATO tanks would be destroyed for loss of 1 helo) were destroyed in the hands of talibans armed with stingers.

Day by day, war is getting more mobile. No matter what "Exo skeleton armor can't withstand a direct hit from 50 cal AP and survive" or "have armor to survive and be mobile(by battle field standards)". What weapons you want it to carry?

Cost of each EXO Skeleton....? Do you know how much is spent on gear for 1 US soldier? (If I remember correctly, it is over $ 15k)

Even squad level teams have access to Carl Gustavs.

Coming to Tanks, Helos and Man portable missiles....... Tanks and helps are developed first; if ATGMs we're there from day 1 i.e, from WW1, I doubt tanks would have survived this long.

I don't say that these will be developed, but I doubt that these will serve on the Frontline, where armoured are targeted first.
 

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IAF capable of taking on China and Pakistan simultaneously
Thursday, October 05, 2017 By: ET Source Link: CLICK HERE


The Indian Air Force is capable of countering China and ready to take on the challenge of a two- front war, Air Chief B S Dhanoa said today.

Addressing a press conference here on the eve of Air Force Day, the Air Chief Marshal said his force is ready for a full spectrum operation but added that any decision on surgical strike involving the IAF has to be taken by the government.

"We are ready to take on any challenge," he said.

Responding to a question, he said the IAF is ready to take on the challenge of a two-front war.

Army chief Gen. Bipin Rawat had said last month that the country should be prepared for a two-front war, insisting China has started "flexing its muscles", while there seems to be no scope for reconciliation with Pakistan whose military and polity saw an adversary in India.

The Chief of Air Staff also said the IAF will achieve sanctioned strength of 42 fighter squadrons by 2032.
http://www.defencenews.in/article/IAF-capable-of-taking-on-China-and-Pakistan-simultaneously--383943
 

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Indian Air Force chief says can hit Pakistan nuclear sites in next surgical strike


In a major warning to Pakistan, Indian Air Force Chief BS Dhanoa today said his forces are capable of hitting nuclear sites across the border if another decision on a surgical strike is taken by the government.

When asked about the tactical nuclear arsenal of Pakistan, Dhanoa said, "The Air Force has the capability to locate, fix and strike across the border." He was addressing a press meet in New Delhi on the eve of the Air Force Day.

"We are ready for a full spectrum operation," he said. Dhanoa, however, added that any decision on another surgical strike which also involves the Indian Air Force has to be taken by the government.

Speaking in that context, Dhanoa said he needs "42 squadrons" to carry out a full spectrum operation in case of "a two-front war". He said the IAF will achieve the sanctioned strength of 42 fighter squadrons by 2032.


READY TO TAKE ON CHINA

Dhanoa said the IAF's capabilities against China are also "adequate". On the Doklam border crisis, he said Chinese forces are still deployed in Chumbi Valley. "I expect that they withdraw as summer exercise gets over," he said.

Indian Army chief General Bipin Rawat had said last month that the country should be prepared for a two-front war, insisting China has started "flexing its muscles", while there seems to be no scope for reconciliation with Pakistan whose military and polity saw an adversary in India.
http://idrw.org/indian-air-force-ch...ar-sites-in-next-surgical-strike/#more-149811 .
 

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Pak-sponsored terrorists with Chinese weapons making counter-insurgency in Kashmir bloodier

The Indian expert, as an afterthought, said there was a fourth ingredient as well that ensured terrorism is sustained virtually indefinitely. The fourth element was the State. He said if the State starts sponsoring terror then it becomes a never-ending game as it has an infinite capability to provide radicalised cadre, weapons and funds to target its enemies all over the world.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/opini...ir-bloodier/story-MkIMDPSNSG4nReucYMa0KK.html
Our media presstitutes never ask the most obvious questions. Of the three ingredients for sustainable terrorism,

1. We know the cadres are paki locals.
2. Weapons, the Chinese weapons and ammo are lethal, no doubt about it but none of the above i.e. cadres and weapons, can be obtained without the significant third ingredient, funding. Which country or countries funds the paki army should be answered before jumping to the 4th ingredient.
 

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now reached a new level where Chinese-manufactured war ordnance is being passed to
Muricans are desperately trying to kill India's balancing act in the region.

You can find Chinese AKs in Timbuktu as well doesn't make it a relevant fact.
 

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Our media presstitutes never ask the most obvious questions. Of the three ingredients for sustainable terrorism,

1. We know the cadres are paki locals.
2. Weapons, the Chinese weapons and ammo are lethal, no doubt about it but none of the above i.e. cadres and weapons, can be obtained without the significant third ingredient, funding. Which country or countries funds the paki army should be answered before jumping to the 4th ingredient.
Muricans are desperately trying to kill India's balancing act in the region.

You can find Chinese AKs in Timbuktu as well doesn't make it a relevant fact.
Saudi Arabia and the other Arab countries are funding Pakistan. Pakistani missile and nuclear programs are entirely funded by these countries.

Chinese are not evil as media make them to be. They supply only simple arms and not complicated technology. It was in fact, pakistan which gave china the nuclear blueprint and china may have helped in return for miniaturisation of nukes. But, China didn't supply nukes to pakistan. They just gave uranium worth 50kg, enough for 1 bomb. Media, funded by West is lying.

The simple items like assault rifle, ammunition can be made by anyone. China just supplies these things for profit which otherwise would have been bought anyway
 

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It was in fact, pakistan which gave china the nuclear blueprint and china may have helped in return for miniaturisation of nukes. But, China didn't supply nukes to pakistan. They just gave uranium worth 50kg, enough for 1 bomb. Media, funded by West is lying.

The simple items like assault rifle, ammunition can be made by anyone. China just supplies these things for profit which otherwise would have been bought anyway
Are you kidding me? Have you mixed up the facts or are you a Cheeni apologist? Cheeni nukes from Napakis? LoL.

Cheeni nukes were a direct gift from the Soviets, who probably fail to foresee the fellow comrades turning their backs on them.

Also do read up about the Western contributions to the Cheeni nuke and space programme, especially during the time of Bill Clinton.
 

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Like a tetris game..............................................................
 

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India never objected to any construction on Chinese territory. Issue would be when transgression would happen on tri junction. As far as it doesn't happen, India would not do anything.
why would Chinese randomly construct a road inside their area unless until they find it strategically advantageous?
 
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