Skirmishs at LOC, LAC & International Border

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Okay, time for a question. Weren't we already using ATGM's & rockets? In these very thread we have recorded their use on LOC. Wasn't it how we destroyed their 7 bunkers in a day? The Pakistani are just trying to reach our level of escalation & nothing more. Our fanbois who advocate war should take notes. They are losing their cool when the enemy is trying to match us in escalation & then they talk about war. Shows that Indian fanbois are all same whether it be cricket or war:sad:

Regarding yesterday's incident. An interesting observation is the army highlighted & put special focus on type of weapon used. Seems they were already planning to escalate further & are going to use this incident as a justification.
 

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Why are we even taking it as ceasefire violation, it's an attack by Pak army on Indian army positions and we must decimate every Pakistani post in that sector and let them know it's the Indian Army which controls escalation.
 

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SO they are using missiles and we still call is cease fire violation?

This is a great opportunity to fire some missiles of our own to take out know terror training camps.

Its all well and good to wait for the opposition to lose their cool and escalate, but ATGM is already a steep escalation. Lets see what our response is.
 

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a lots of pressure on govt ..from opposition ..also from its ally ...also from media....
homeminister already given his statement... waiting for armys statement(as it's only source to know paki casualties)..... a lots of talks going

 

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We were using ATGMs before and seems Pakis have matched us and started using atgms too. Good move. It gives us a reason to use even higher caliber weapons causing more destruction of Pak terror infrastructure. Army was constructing Bunkers along LoC coz they were preparing for an escalation in weapons usage.
 

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In order to have an upper hand on LAC, India needs upgraded hardware: here's a list of items that India seriously lacks giving Pakistan an option to continue cross LAC ventures.

1. Fire finder radars for mortars. Current weapon locating radars such as Swathi are incapable of tracking 51mm and 81mm mortars fire, thus forcing indiscriminate shelling by Indian forces. Portable mortar fire finding radars are affordable and extremely useful for current situation on LAC. This should force Pakistanis to shoot and scoot every time they fire a mortar shell, thus reducing rate and intensity.

2. Fire and Update anti-tank missiles. ATGM with ability to lock on after launch to see and engage targets hiding behind the ridge line or mountain. Spike missile is a great addition for LOC war. At present only visible target can be engaged by Indian ATGM.
More to follow
 

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We lost 4 more soldiers today why are we not built impenetrable bunkers or use DRONES at border patrolling ... US kills porkis in porki land .....why not deploy some drones so that they do our dirty work 24/7??

2.Use-Fund TTP/BLA/SMP/Mohajirs-Pasthun-Sindh-Baloch independence movements,local insurgents islamic/Jihadi groups and so on. :biggrin2:
Every bunker is penetrable. Some forward posts will just be a few sandbags and stones constructed for minimal protection they will surely give away. Every bunber csnt a be the fuhrer bunker :/ What's your solution ? Bunker without firing holes? Or observation windows :/
You can be saved from bullets but not from well placed ATGMs/arty/sniper shots.

No isreali/indian drones we have currently carry missiles. They are Only spy/observation drones. with our borders spanning 100s of kms a single post can't be under constant drone surveillance.
Blood will always flow. No country retained its independence and freedom by newspaper hullabaloo and power of pen. Even the army will have taken possible casualties into account when we started escalating.
 

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Every bunker is penetrable. Some forward posts will just be a few sandbags and stones constructed for minimal protection they will surely give away. Every bunber csnt a be the fuhrer bunker :/ What's your solution ? Bunker without firing holes? Or observation windows :/
You can be saved from bullets but not from well placed ATGMs/arty/sniper shots.

No isreali/indian drones we have currently carry missiles. They are Only spy/observation drones. with our borders spanning 100s of kms a single post can't be under constant drone surveillance.
Blood will always flow. No country retained its independence and freedom by newspaper hullabaloo and power of pen. Even the army will have taken possible casualties into account when we started escalating.
WW2 bunker... simple concrete bunker is not much innovative technically and/or pricey!


2.US using drones from last two decades why not buy or develop it here in India??
3.I know blood will flow but we are wasting with porkis because PIGS are enjoying it even though they loss more :frusty: from last 4 decades! ..... we need a NEW SOLUTION.
 

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Off topic. Porki Army enters Afghanistan and captures a few peaks.

We should do the same to Porkistan. Take one peak after another. Salami slicing......

 

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Off topic. Porki Army enters Afghanistan and captures a few peaks.

We should do the same to Porkistan. Take one peak after another. Salami slicing......

Wait, something else is going on in Maldives.

This seems to be a trap. Ask a question, why would Pak occupy few peaks in Afghan!?

President Ghani and Modi have good relationship. If attack on Afghan happens, then Ghani will ask Modi's help. IA might have to bring boots on the ground. Trump is looking for a reason to run away from Afghan, even the minute presence of IA will be an excuse for Trump to leave Afghan and IA will have to stay to stop Pro Pak Taliban.

Afghan has always been graveyard of empires and I feel that Pak is trying to push IA into that quagmire.

I think India will wait for American and Ghani's response. But, we'll never know what might happen next.
 

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Wait, something else is going on in Maldives.

This seems to be a trap. Ask a question, why would Pak occupy few peaks in Afghan!?

President Ghani and Modi have good relationship. If attack on Afghan happens, then Ghani will ask Modi's help. IA might have to bring boots on the ground. Trump is looking for a reason to run away from Afghan, even the minute presence of IA will be an excuse for Trump to leave Afghan and IA will have to stay to stop Pro Pak Taliban.

Afghan has always been graveyard of empires and I feel that Pak is trying to push IA into that quagmire.

I think India will wait for American and Ghani's response. But, we'll never know what might happen next.
We should not move into Afghanistan. But doing salami slicing in POK taking over one peak & PA post after another. Taking over peer panjal and Neelam ghati should be first priority and entire POK area opposite Jammu I suppose it is machil till international border.

No boots in Afghanistan, only a small presence to fuck the shit out of porki Army from that border too by hiring merceneries and Afghani soldiers by providing them weapons captured from maoists & terrorists in Kashmir. Mostly these weapons have Chinese marking so there will be no trail of who gave these weapons.
 

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We should not move into Afghanistan. But doing salami slicing in POK taking over one peak & PA post after another. Taking over peer panjal and Neelam ghati should be first priority and entire POK area opposite Jammu I suppose it is machil till international border.

No boots in Afghanistan, only a small presence to fuck the shit out of porki Army from that border too by hiring merceneries and Afghani soldiers by providing them weapons captured from maoists & terrorists in Kashmir. Mostly these weapons have Chinese marking so there will be no trail of who gave these weapons.
Attacking PoK will not help in reliving Afghan forces to recapture their lost peaks.

Not to mention about holding PoK bunkers. PoK and Pak borders are practically non existent. It will be 1990's all over again.

When you said about small Indian contingent, do you have any number in mind, I have. @Mikesingh sirji correct me if I am wrong, I expect at least 1 division of force to recapture Afghan peaks, after IAF pulverizing Pak positions in the mountains.

Presence of IA would make Trump to force Modi to put boots on ground. Backing now would send wrong signals to Ghani and rest of allies counting on India. Before we even understand, transition of Afghan security from US army to IA would happen.

There are many variables and sacrifices PA will have to make and every trap had to be spun accurately by ISI & PA. And there is one more issue even after IA getting into Afghan war. Even the mighty empires couldn't hold Afghan due to the hostility of Afghan and foreign forces. This hostility is absent between India and Afghan (till date). Rather than directly jumping into action, IA might assist Afghan army just like Russia assisted SAA. If this is to happen, the Pak will be fucked up from all the sides.

We're yet to receive response from Afghan or America or heck even from Pak(i.e. why they occupied). I am sure GoI will take appropriate action.
 

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Feb 5 is made as kashmir solidarity day in poorkistan, that's the message they gave to us
 
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