Russia Ukraine War 2022

[Ylside]

Well, noone would be particularly sad if RuSSians got kicked out of that tiny, mafia-controlled shithole. That "country" has no purpose, it's just a Russian puppet state so Russians have some

 

[GaudaNaresh]

Well, noone would be particularly sad if RuSSians got kicked out of that tiny, mafia-controlled shithole. That "country" has no purpose, it's just a Russian puppet state so Russians have some

Says the guy who's from the yankee puppet-state shithole. funny indeed.

 

[PETERPIPER]

I read sometimes, but I see no reason to enter into discussions. Here everyone has determined his position and it is useless to prove to him. I'm not interested in "warming up the air" with empty talk. I have someone to argue with. After all, even with the information they look at the wrong angle.
For example: There is a lot of noise in the media now about the expectation of receiving Western tanks, for a future counteroffensive. However, I affirm that we already have enough tanks and the brigade on Leo-2A4 will not change anything.
This is a screenshot of a TV show from a week ago.
View attachment 193727
1 line - how much was before the war, 2 - losses, 3 - delivered, 4 - trophies, 5 - how much now.
However, society has a narrower view. Specialists - understand, but they are much less than ordinary people.
To discuss tactical failures and victories here - why should I? When a larger movement starts, I will join.

Those figures contradict what your government said:


"The commander of the logistics of the Command of the Ground Forces, Vladimir Karpenko, spoke about this in an interview with National Defense.

“I won’t talk about anti-tank guided missiles or anti-tank guided weapons yet. I’m talking only about heavy weapons. Today we have about 30-40%, and sometimes up to 50% of equipment losses as a result of active battles. Thus, we have lost about 50% lost about 1,300 infantry fighting vehicles, 400 tanks and 700 artillery systems,” Karpenko said."

Whereas I am sure Russia has lots a lot of tanks destroyed,I don't think anyone can believe that Ukraine only lost 50 tanks in 7 months,when they lost 400 in three months and fighting defensively.

We also would not be depleting our frontline tanks if Ukraine had zero net losses as you are saying(because of tanks captured).

 

[Flying Dagger]

I read sometimes, but I see no reason to enter into discussions. Here everyone has determined his position and it is useless to prove to him. I'm not interested in "warming up the air" with empty talk. I have someone to argue with. After all, even with the information they look at the wrong angle.
For example: There is a lot of noise in the media now about the expectation of receiving Western tanks, for a future counteroffensive. However, I affirm that we already have enough tanks and the brigade on Leo-2A4 will not change anything.
This is a screenshot of a TV show from a week ago.
View attachment 193727
1 line - how much was before the war, 2 - losses, 3 - delivered, 4 - trophies, 5 - how much now.
However, society has a narrower view. Specialists - understand, but they are much less than ordinary people.
To discuss tactical failures and victories here - why should I? When a larger movement starts, I will join.

Sending small batch of European tanks is basically how Europe is testing Russian response to that.

They will send more later.

Also you must understand that these tanks have better survival rate than the one you have which is basically fodder for Russian atgm and artillery.

The only problem I see is maintenance. Leopard is still fine but challenger from UK. Well atleast you can show them in parades perhaps.

 

[PETERPIPER]

Sending small batch of European tanks is basically how Europe is testing Russian response to that.

They will send more later.

Also you must understand that these tanks have better survival rate than the one you have which is basically fodder for Russian atgm and artillery.

The only problem I see is maintenance. Leopard is still fine but challenger from UK. Well atleast you can show them in parades perhaps.

They lack the autoloader,so the crew are not sitting on the ammo,ie,less chance of the turret flying off if the tank is hit. But you need 33% more crew per tank.

 

[Waanar]

But you need 33% more crew per tank.

Those figures contradict what your government said:


"The commander of the logistics of the Command of the Ground Forces, Vladimir Karpenko, spoke about this in an interview with National Defense.

“I won’t talk about anti-tank guided missiles or anti-tank guided weapons yet. I’m talking only about heavy weapons. Today we have about 30-40%, and sometimes up to 50% of equipment losses as a result of active battles. Thus, we have lost about 50% lost about 1,300 infantry fighting vehicles, 400 tanks and 700 artillery systems,” Karpenko said."

Whereas I am sure Russia has lots a lot of tanks destroyed,I don't think anyone can believe that Ukraine only lost 50 tanks in 7 months,when they lost 400 in three months and fighting defensively.

We also would not be depleting our frontline tanks if Ukraine had zero net losses as you are saying(because of tanks captured).

Any reliable number on the dead/injured?

 

[PETERPIPER]

Any reliable number on the dead/injured?

I don't think we will have a reliable number from either side until the war has finished.

 

[Blood+]

They lack the autoloader,so the crew are not sitting on the ammo,ie,less chance of the turret flying off if the tank is hit. But you need 33% more crew per tank.

Like this you mean??

 

[Akim]

Those figures contradict what your government said:


"The commander of the logistics of the Command of the Ground Forces, Vladimir Karpenko, spoke about this in an interview with National Defense.

“I won’t talk about anti-tank guided missiles or anti-tank guided weapons yet. I’m talking only about heavy weapons. Today we have about 30-40%, and sometimes up to 50% of equipment losses as a result of active battles. Thus, we have lost about 50% lost about 1,300 infantry fighting vehicles, 400 tanks and 700 artillery systems,” Karpenko said."

Whereas I am sure Russia has lots a lot of tanks destroyed,I don't think anyone can believe that Ukraine only lost 50 tanks in 7 months,when they lost 400 in three months and fighting defensively.

We also would not be depleting our frontline tanks if Ukraine had zero net losses as you are saying(because of tanks captured).

Perhaps These loss figures are based on photo confirmation.
For example: our General Staff claims that the Russians lost 3.3 thousand (3290) tanks, but only one and a half thousand have photo confirmation.
However, it is known for sure that there is no shortage of tanks. There is a shortage of lightly armored vehicles, but this war is not conducted according to the canons of the Combat Regulations of the Soviet Army, so the military equipment may differ.
P.S. Everyone uses it though..

 

[BON PLAN]

Russia Pitches Its ‘Cutting Edge’ T-14 Armata Tank Technology To India To Co-Develop Army’s Main Battle Tank
ByAshish Dangwal

February 14, 2023

Russia Pitches Its 'Cutting Edge' T-14 Armata Tank Technology To India To Co-Develop Army's Main Battle Tank

Russia could share T-14 Armata tank tech with India to participate in the joint development of the main battle tank for the Indian Army.

eurasiantimes.com

The sole solution for Russia to mass produce this MBT.
because : 1) T14 is costly for russian standard. 2) Russia GDP will suffer a lot and for a long time from west embargo on energie.

 

[DumbPilot]

The sole solution for Russia to mass produce this MBT.
because : 1) T14 is costly for russian standard. 2) Russia GDP will suffer a lot and for a long time from west embargo on energie.

I only see the T-80s, refurbished T-62/72 and new T-90s as Russian MBTs for the future, very heavy doubt on the T-14 entering actual service before 2-3 decades

Not like the T-14 matters much, because the Russian mechanized tactics are going to remain shit anyway. Sensors don't do shit for people who don't know how to fight

 

[Blademaster]

Well, noone would be particularly sad if RuSSians got kicked out of that tiny, mafia-controlled shithole. That "country" has no purpose, it's just a Russian puppet state so Russians have some

No one would be particularly sad if the polish larpers, posing as mercenaries in Ukraine, got kicked in the nards and obliterated into smithereens.

 

[Blademaster]

Not like the T-14 matters much, because the Russian mechanized tactics are going to remain shit anyway. Sensors don't do shit for people who don't know how to fight

You serious or you kidding? Count the number of Russian soldiers in the frontlines right now and compare it to the massive numbers of Ukrainian soldies massively equipped with western weapons. The ratio is massively in favor of the Ukrainians and yet the Ukrainians are losing ground every day and losing way more soldiers than the Russians.

 

[Master Chief]

Dead Ukranian soldiers on the move..

 

[vampyrbladez]

 

[BON PLAN]

You serious or you kidding? Count the number of Russian soldiers in the frontlines right now and compare it to the massive numbers of Ukrainian soldies massively equipped with western weapons. The ratio is massively in favor of the Ukrainians and yet the Ukrainians are losing ground every day and losing way more soldiers than the Russians.

Correct for western weapons, but not so massively (nearly no ALCM for ukraine. Far less artillery and SAM).
False for numbers of soldiers.

 

[BON PLAN]

Is he afraid of sabotage? ......

 

[ww2historian]

Ukraine aid support softens in the US: AP-NORC Poll
Forty-eight percent say they favor the U.S. providing weapons to Ukraine, with 29% opposed and 22% saying they’re neither in favor nor opposed. In May 2022, less than three months into the war, 60% of U.S. adults said they were in favor of sending Ukraine weapons.

Americans are about evenly divided on sending government funds directly to Ukraine, with 37% in favor and 38% opposed, with 23% saying neither. The signs of diminished support for Ukraine come as President Joe Biden is set to travel to Poland next week to mark the first anniversary of the biggest conflict in Europe since World War II.

“I am sympathetic for Ukraine's situation and I feel badly for them, but I feel like we need to first take care of priorities here at home,” said Joe Hernandez, 44, of Rocklin, California.

 

[vampyrbladez]

 

[RocketMan]

I read sometimes, but I see no reason to enter into discussions. Here everyone has determined his position and it is useless to prove to him. I'm not interested in "warming up the air" with empty talk. I have someone to argue with. After all, even with the information they look at the wrong angle.
For example: There is a lot of noise in the media now about the expectation of receiving Western tanks, for a future counteroffensive. However, I affirm that we already have enough tanks and the brigade on Leo-2A4 will not change anything.
This is a screenshot of a TV show from a week ago.
View attachment 193727
1 line - how much was before the war, 2 - losses, 3 - delivered, 4 - trophies, 5 - how much now.
However, society has a narrower view. Specialists - understand, but they are much less than ordinary people.
To discuss tactical failures and victories here - why should I? When a larger movement starts, I will join.

Thank god you're alive ! I thought you were drafted & sent to front.