Russia Ukraine War 2022

[vampyrbladez]

 

[The Shrike]

Ya'll Nibbiars

Rehearsal for Victory day parade nibber.

 

[Akim]

Someone compared India with Ukraine. It is idiotic. Ukraine is a bitch state of US where every leader is sold out and Zelensky himself is a US citizen. Ukraine has no self respect and is making its citizens cannon fodder for other nations interest. Cowards are now enrolling 12 year olds. Nazis repeating what their idol Hitler did.

What kind of leader makes jokes when the plight of its citizens is so unbearable.

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[RocketMan]

Well, Ukraine is toast. I hope one rusty old cruiser was worth it.

JewLenskyy should surrender like Hirohito did . He may still have a chance to save Ukraine . Otherwise it will blown to kingdom come .

 

[Longewala]

This war has proved that Putin is an egomania and megalomania incompetent fool who didn't think this invasion through or didn't do any proper analysis. No one can predict how such dictators may react but at the end of day he also wants to save his seat/power.
This war proved the sheer impenitence of Russian war machinery to fail to achieve its strategic targets
Not bombing Kyiv is more of an political decision than military one. At the end of day Putin also needs to save his face and justify his actions.
At this stage bombing Kyiv will not get desired results or help achieve strategic goals but will be counter-productive.
Time to bomb Kyiv is long gone. In short the ship has sailed. If it was to be done, it should have be done within 48-96 hours of invasion but again the Russian convoy got bogged.
Russians have still not accepted this is an invasion.
Don't forget what happened to Saddam in the end.

Just to put Russian "incompetence" and "war failures" in context, imagine an Indo Pak battle centered around Punjab and coastal fronts.

Imagine after a month of fighting, at the cost of a few hundred tanks and several thousand Kia for the Bharat army,
- We are in control of cities of Sialkot and surrounded Lahore
- The PAF decimated by day 3
- Ditto the Napak army's mechanised, mobile forces, with the enemy resorting to hiding in urban, civilian areas
- The coastal belt to Baluchistan under Indian occupation
- Large tracts of highly fertile land and the strategic Ichhogil canal lost to the Bharat army
- The Napak navy sinks one 40 year old ship but is nowhere to be seen and scared to even set out to sea.

I bet we would all think it's an abject failure for the Indian army.
Right?
Right?

 

[asaffronladoftherisingsun]

This war has proved that Putin is an egomania and megalomania incompetent fool who didn't think this invasion through or didn't do any proper analysis. No one can predict how such dictators may react but at the end of day he also wants to save his seat/power.
This war proved the sheer impenitence of Russian war machinery to fail to achieve its strategic targets
Not bombing Kyiv is more of an political decision than military one. At the end of day Putin also needs to save his face and justify his actions.
At this stage bombing Kyiv will not get desired results or help achieve strategic goals but will be counter-productive.
Time to bomb Kyiv is long gone. In short the ship has sailed. If it was to be done, it should have be done within 48-96 hours of invasion but again the Russian convoy got bogged.
Russians have still not accepted this is an invasion.
Don't forget what happened to Saddam in the end.

 

[JBH22]

JewLenskyy should surrender like Hirohito did . He may still have a chance to save Ukraine . Otherwise it will blown to kingdom come .

Except residential cities, what is left in terms of infrastructure to save.
Most heavy engineering facilities have been bombed. The idea that is floating now is to seize Russian foreign funds and use it to finance reconstruction. This conflict has move beyond negotiation now, it is do or die now.
Opportunity was to remain neutral, but they wanted to show middle finger to Russia now 'randi rona' everyday.
Let them fight and sort it out now.

We have an opportunity to make in road in FMCG and other markets in Russia, we should move in before China captures everything.

 

[another_armchair]

Except residential cities, what is left in terms of infrastructure to save.
Most heavy engineering facilities have been bombed. The idea that is floating now is to seize Russian foreign funds and use it to finance reconstruction. This conflict has move beyond negotiation now, it is do or die now.
Opportunity was to remain neutral, but they wanted to show middle finger to Russia now 'randi rona' everyday.
Let them fight and sort it out now.

We have an opportunity to make in road in FMCG and other markets in Russia, we should move in before China captures everything.

China can barely produce enough food for its own domestic and lifestock population.

 

[JBH22]

China can barely produce enough food for its own domestic and lifestock population.

Don't be under the fall impression that we are fully autonomous on food security aspect.
Some of deals secured with African countries to lease agricultural land has been cancelled. We can seek more lease land with Russia and other Central Asian state.

Calls to end Africa's 'horrific' land deals after Indian firm's fallout
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ethiopia-landrights-india-idUSKBN1DS1FK

 

[angryIndian]

Just to put Russian "incompetence" and "war failures" in context, imagine an Indo Pak battle centered around that front.

We cannot put this war to India Pakistan context since the military strength ratio between Russia and Ukraine is 10:1 where as between India and Pakistan is 2.5:1

Even if i go by the neutral OSINT figures,the Russian losses are immense.

 

[Rassil Krishnan]

Just to put Russian "incompetence" and "war failures" in context, imagine an Indo Pak battle centered around Punjab and coastal fronts.

Imagine after a month of fighting, at the cost of a few hundred tanks and several thousand Kia for the Bharat army,
- We are in control of cities of Sialkot and surrounded Lahore
- The PAF decimated by day 3
- Ditto the Napak army's mechanised, mobile forces, with the enemy resorting to hiding in urban, civilian areas
- The coastal belt to Baluchistan under Indian occupation
- Large tracts of highly fertile land and the strategic Ichhogil canal lost to the Bharat army
- The Napak navy sinks one 40 year old ship but is nowhere to be seen and scared to even set out to sea.

I bet we would all think it's an abject failure for the Indian army.
Right?
Right?

hey isnt this 1971 war basically,
except that,bangladesh was the area mostly occupied.

lost one ship due to a sub attack.
wrecked their navy

 

[asaffronladoftherisingsun]

Chutiya gulam failed porkystani.

 

[another_armchair]

Don't be under the fall impression that we are fully autonomous on food security aspect.
Some of deals secured with African countries to lease agricultural land has been cancelled. We can seek more lease land with Russia and other Central Asian state.

Calls to end Africa's 'horrific' land deals after Indian firm's fallout
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ethiopia-landrights-india-idUSKBN1DS1FK

We are fully autonomous w.r.t foodgrains at least. Lentils may take some time but we are getting there.

Don't know if you read the article completely. Looks like a hitjob which is typical of Reuters.

Sensational headline with rebuttals by both Govt and the contracting party pushed to the bottom of the page with an advocacy group shilling all the way from USA.

Theek hai.

 

[another_armchair]

We cannot put this war to India Pakistan context since the military strength ratio between Russia and Ukraine is 10:1 where as between India and Pakistan is 2.5:1

Even if i go by the neutral OSINT figures,the Russian losses are immense.

How many men did we lose in the 1965 war? As we went back to status quo, it should be considered a loss and shouldn't be celebrated as a victory by us no?

 

[arkos]

Ilych is gone. Only Azovstal is left.

Captured Ukrainian marines at Ilyich plant.

 

[jackprince]

‘’There are only total 11 narrow passes from Kameng Division (Twang) to Lohit Divison (Walong) which the ill equipped Chinese (not trained for mountain and Snow warfare) can take. To take Arunachal they will need to overcome 50,000 to 100,000 Indian troops and then travel 200 miles width of Himalayas going up and down from 8,000 feet to 18,000 feet alternately to seize all of Arunachal Pradesh. That is an impossible task. They will need 600,000 men all along the MacMohan Line, which they don’t have. That means they would have to empty the front line from Japan to Taiwan to bring that kind of conquest force. To keep them supplied such a large force in an offensive mode from Tibet or from China even if they have better dirt road to the high passes is next to impossible. This is a Bad …… Bad, thinking. it is more likely a dream scenario of Chinese conquest of Arunachal Pradesh.

As opposed to that Indian troops in 50,000 to 100,000 strength are already there in a defensive position with high altitude artillery and mountain helicopters and the very best airforce planes as opposed third rate copied technology plane of the Chinese. Their offensive beyond the MacMohan line will cost them not 15,000 dead but 50,000 dead and still not succeeding much beyond the high passes. Chinese missile force becomes useless on Indian troops as missiles do not work on reverse slopes.

It will be a big loosing fight for the Chinese and imagine the loss of prestige they will suffer.

I guess Chinese know all this but Indian posters on this website seem to assume omnipotent Chinese can do that. They have been over taken by Chinese propaganda.

Mmm... It is unexpected from you to comment on a post without taking in the context of the post.

The original question rose whether the mounting casualty figures of Russian Army justifies the tactical or strategic gain it would have when the dust settles. The comment was on a hypothetical scenario.

So yeah, your response affirms my understanding that if China manages to get Arunachal -as I assumed OP must have meant Arunachal as one of the places China would care to accept heavy casualty for - with only 30K casualty, it would be a victory for China.

 

[jackprince]

How many men did we lose in the 1965 war? As we went back to status quo, it should be considered a loss and shouldn't be celebrated as a victory by us no?

Considering in 1965 Pakistan had a much better technologically superior armed force, the ratio would have been 1.5:1 in favour of Pakistan in 1965. So, 1965 was a win for India despite the stalemate.

 

[jackprince]

Chutiya gulam failed porkystani.

He ain't Porki. He is a troll account.

 

[Neptune]

A lot of intense drone footage of Ukrainian marines coming under artillery and small arms fire. At one point it looks like a Russian BTR is is engaging a Ukrainian BMP. Notable footage also includes a Ukrainian tank burning and Ukrainian marines surrendering.

 

[another_armchair]

Considering in 1965 Pakistan has a much better technologically superior armed force, the ratio would have been 1.5:1 in favour of Pakistan in 1965. So, 1965 was a win for India despite the stalemate.

Of course.

I was using his own analogy to wind him up.