Russia Ukraine War 2022

Who will win this war?.


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Haldilal

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Ya'll Nibbiars The Lyudmila Pavlichenko, a master sniper that killed 309 Nazis and Ukranian collaborators while being in the 25th Rifle Division of the Soviet Union's Red Army.

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Russians now using civilian unarmoured vans/trucks

including transporting troops in dump/trash trucks

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This is cheap propaganda, just blurry photo’s without any proof or context of “Russian” soldiers in those trucks. Even then militaries, primarily special forces from around the world use civilian vehicles to blend in, the US and other NATO countries did this often in Afghanistan. No one ever accused them of doing this because they lost so many vehicles.

LNR/DNR often use all sorts of equipment, sometimes ww2 weapons, so if those are indeed “Russian” they are civilians/LNR/DNR militias and mostly Ukrainian. It could also just be civilians being evacuated in civilian vehicles with Z painted on for identification purposes.

Russia has tens of thousand of military trucks and armored transports like APCs, IFVs, there is no need for civilians trucks.

It’s all propaganda information warfare, Ukrainians are losing cities, territory, entire Ukrainian brigades are encircled and destroyed: Ukrainian fanboy…look….look….look at the Russians….don’t look here, look there. Everything is fine, the Ukrainian army is beating Russians back to Moscow.
 

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This is cheap propaganda, just blurry photo’s without any proof or context of “Russian” soldiers in those trucks. Even then militaries, primarily special forces from around the world use civilian vehicles to blend in, the US and other NATO countries did this often in Afghanistan. No one ever accused them of doing this because they lost so many vehicles.

LNR/DNR often use all sorts of equipment, sometimes ww2 weapons, so if those are indeed “Russian” they are civilians/LNR/DNR militias and mostly Ukrainian. It could also just be civilians being evacuated in civilian vehicles with Z painted on for identification purposes.

Russia has tens of thousand of military trucks and armored transports like APCs, IFVs, there is no need for civilians trucks.

It’s all propaganda informative warfare, Ukrainians are losing cities, territory, entire Ukrainian brigades are encircled and destroyed: Ukrainian fanboy…look….look….look at the Russians….don’t look here, look there. Everything is fine, the Ukrainian army is beating Russians back to Moscow.
Agree there.. why would Russia use just Military vehicles for administration of newly occupied territories... They need thousands of such vehicles for day to day activities, in the occupied territories of Ukraine..
 

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This is cheap propaganda, just blurry photo’s without any proof or context of “Russian” soldiers in those trucks. Even then militaries, primarily special forces from around the world use civilian vehicles to blend in, the US and other NATO countries did this often in Afghanistan. No one ever accused them of doing this because they lost so many vehicles.

LNR/DNR often use all sorts of equipment, sometimes ww2 weapons, so if those are indeed “Russian” they are civilians/LNR/DNR militias and mostly Ukrainian. It could also just be civilians being evacuated in civilian vehicles with Z painted on for identification purposes.

Russia has tens of thousand of military trucks and armored transports like APCs, IFVs, there is no need for civilians trucks.

It’s all propaganda information warfare, Ukrainians are losing cities, territory, entire Ukrainian brigades are encircled and destroyed: Ukrainian fanboy…look….look….look at the Russians….don’t look here, look there. Everything is fine, the Ukrainian army is beating Russians back to Moscow.
thats what i thought too .

but there are pictures of burning russian "same" civilian vans / trucks in a russian convoy

how do u expain that ? .

one thing to use civilian transport for logistics , Chinese do extensive military drills with their civilian truck and shipping companies.

but simple white vans in a war zone ? something went seriously wrong somewhere.
 

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thats what i thought too .

but there are pictures of burning russian civilian vans / trucks in a russian convoy

how do u expain that ?
Russia would need thousands of vehicles to run an occupation regime.. I think that's where the civilian vehicles come in..
 

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thats what i thought too .

but there are pictures of burning russian civilian vans / trucks in a russian convoy

how do u expain that ? .

one thing to use civilian transport for logistics , Chinese do extensive military drills with their civilian truck and shipping companies.

but simple white vans in a war zone ? something went seriously wrong somewhere.
It's a war zone where civvie vehicle seem to roam around freely. So a civvie vehicle of any colour would blend in.,
 

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क्या Ukraine दुनिया का दूसरा Afghanistan बनने जा रहा है ?
 

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mokomon really outed himself in this conflict in a very decisive way picking a side....that nayak guy is another one....nothing wrong in my opinion but sourcing off of prop is getting a bit tiring as the ground reality is Ukrainians losing every day more and more ground
this is "part of" ground reality

Ukranians sniping Russian commanders then reporting it first because 2nd strongest military in world doesnt have secure comms ,

Russian faltering like this is peak comedy . not to mention way way more interesting .

mokomon really outed himself in this conflict

war is never black/white , nothing wrong in few people supporting one side or other .
not to mention the memes floating around , both pro-ukranian and pro-russian are fucking funny . :truestory:
 

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thats what i thought too .

but there are pictures of burning russian civilian vans / trucks in a russian convoy

how do u expain that ? .

one thing to use civilian transport for logistics , Chinese do extensive military drills with their civilian truck and shipping companies.

but simple white vans in a war zone ? something went seriously wrong somewhere.
How do I explain burning Russian military vehicles? Easy, they got hit by Ukrainians. This is a very real war not some insurgency in Iraq. NATO is feeding Ukrainians intelligent, weapon and training. This is 2022, not 2003, Ukrainians are using even civilian drones to spot Russian convoys and relay the informal to artillery to hit them.

Even the US would suffer heavy equipment losses in such a war especially if Russians provided the enemy with intelligence on US troop movements, weapons and training. Ukraine is a perfect country for ambushes and difficult for invading armies due to terrain.

In the future I would think Russia will return the favor and start giving sophisticated weapons, training and intelligence to countries invaded by NATO.
 

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Ukranians sniping Russian commanders then reporting it first because 2nd strongest military in world doesnt have secure comms ,
More like Ukrainins peddling their lame tales and people willingly swallowing the BS whole. Nothing wrong with bringing in the opposing perspective, it prevents the place from becoming an echo chamber, but it's pretty useless to blindly let the propaganda flow just because you are cheering for that side.
 

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this is "part of" ground reality

Ukranians sniping Russian commanders then reporting it first because 2nd strongest military in world doesnt have secure comms ,

Russian faltering like this is peak comedy . not to mention way way more interesting .

mokomon really outed himself in this conflict

war is never black/white , nothing wrong in few people supporting one side or other .
That is inevitable in a war with Europes 2nd largest army and 2nd largest country with 40 million pop, but your line is pushing only one way when the events coming out of it in both military and other areas is beyond Russia. West with its penchant to dominate everyone is ultimate loser from this conflict.
 

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