Project P15B Visakhapatnam class destroyer

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Vishakapatnam is very impressive vessel but these are built tech transfer from Russia if Russian flag battle cruiser MOSKAVA is destroyed than these ships are no match of weapons which Moskava had yet it destroyed big navies are the easiest targets


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Vishakapatnam is very impressive vessel but these are built tech transfer from Russia if Russian flag battle cruiser MOSKAVA is destroyed than these ships are no match of weapons which Moskava had yet it destroyed big navies are the easiest targets


How indian navy learn and do better and get few us of french vessels
Most indian ships have indigenous or western systems who told you we built destroyers from tech transfer from russia? Ain't you the one who are buying cheap chinese warships πŸ˜‚
 

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Vishakapatnam is very impressive vessel but these are built tech transfer from Russia if Russian flag battle cruiser MOSKAVA is destroyed than these ships are no match of weapons which Moskava had yet it destroyed big navies are the easiest targets


How indian navy learn and do better and get few us of french vessels
INS Visakhapatnam has nothing to do with regards to Russia in relation to its design. The design of INS Visakhapatnam is "Indian" and it is more than 60-70 percent indian in terms of Indigenous content.
AK-630 is Manufactured in India itself with more than 90 Percent Indigenisation.
 
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Vishakapatnam is very impressive vessel but these are built tech transfer from Russia if Russian flag battle cruiser MOSKAVA is destroyed than these ships are no match of weapons which Moskava had yet it destroyed big navies are the easiest targets


How indian navy learn and do better and get few us of french vessels
What Porkland people don’t and will never understand is the EW, CEW, ISR, NavAid, C&C, CMS and other major electronics and networks are western + Israeli + Indian. India does not use Russian electronics and software for most part. And where it does, india quickly tries to develop a local version or with western collaboration, a more advanced software.
For example, the very strategic CMS for Indian aircraft carriers are built in-house from Tata.
In any case, Pork folks are incapable of understanding such nuances of technology, as all this requires quality schooling and education, which 70-80% of Packis don’t have access to. This is very similar to how uneducated Packis were conned into believing that the Spike 2000 bombs β€œmissed” Balakot terror infra when we all know that Spike2000 has a system that makes it impossible to β€œmiss” a target if the photos of the target were correct. This is why most people don’t debate with Packis as, frankly, most Packis are dumb and even retarded due to heavy inbreeding. The saner ones have long quit the mental asylum called Pa ki Stan.
 

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What Porkland people don’t and will never understand is the EW, CEW, ISR, NavAid, C&C, CMS and other major electronics and networks are western + Israeli + Indian. India does not use Russian electronics and software for most part. And where it does, india quickly tries to develop a local version or with western collaboration, a more advanced software.
For example, the very strategic CMS for Indian aircraft carriers are built in-house from Tata.
In any case, Pork folks are incapable of understanding such nuances of technology, as all this requires quality schooling and education, which 70-80% of Packis don’t have access to. This is very similar to how uneducated Packis were conned into believing that the Spike 2000 bombs β€œmissed” Balakot terror infra when we all know that Spike2000 has a system that makes it impossible to β€œmiss” a target if the photos of the target were correct. This is why most people don’t debate with Packis as, frankly, most Packis are dumb and even retarded due to heavy inbreeding. The saner ones have long quit the mental asylum called Pa ki Stan.
@Marliii @RoaringTigerHiddenDragon don't throw rock at the wall , guy only want to promote his YouTube channel , say weird shit regularly on various thread , don't bother
 

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Vishakapatnam is very impressive vessel but these are built tech transfer from Russia if Russian flag battle cruiser MOSKAVA is destroyed than these ships are no match of weapons which Moskava had yet it destroyed big navies are the easiest targets


How indian navy learn and do better and get few us of french vessels
Moskava even if better than Indian destroyers in terms if arms load was at least a generation behind Visakhapatnam class in terms of EW and radar tech.

And no, Visakhapatnam has nothing to do with Moskava. They are a beefed up version of Kolkata class destroyers which again are upgraded versions or Delhi class destroyers which on turn were inspired from Rajput class destroyers.
 

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Visakhapatnam is very impressive vessel but these are built tech transfer from Russia if Russian flag battle cruiser MOSKAVA is destroyed than these ships are no match of weapons which Moskava had yet it destroyed big navies are the easiest targets
Talwar-class frigate was the last class of ship that was built with Russian ToT. All ships after that were designed in India by DND and also manufactured in India. Successive class of ship has more indignation content. Apart from primary radar all sensors are either designed in India or made in India or both.
Visakhapatnam has nothing to do with Russia or vice-versa. Even AK-630 and RBU-6000 are manufactured in India.

Can you enlighten me what weapons that MOSKAVA had that are no match to weapons fielded by IN .

MOSKAVA was a technologically obsolete sheep compared to modern standards.


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The guy has got many things wrong.
  1. Concept of flagship is obsolete in today's world. It only means commander of the fleet might be present on the ship. Flagship don't have any special capabilities.
  2. Indian EW capabilities far surpass Russian EW capabilities. Author ignores this fact.
  3. Indian AD doctrine is very much different from Russian AD.
  4. IN never operates alone. It always operates in tandem with IAF and the battle space will be covered by AWACS and ground based Radar. IN is part AFNet.
  5. Ships in IN always operate in conjugation with other ships of IN. They don't goon lone wolf mission.
  6. Barak-8 is more potent than anything Russians have.
  7. We soon shall have VL-SRSAM in CIWS role.
  8. In short we have better hard-kill and soft-kill capabilities than Russian. Author completely failed to mention this.
  9. Author fails to compared how IN has better sensors on its ships compared RuN.
  10. IN has dedicated satellites which will be deployed in area of operation.
  11. Most import, NATO is providing firing solutions to Ukraine, how Pakistan will get such firing solutions; author doesn't discuss anything on the same.
  12. MOSKAVA was incompetence in part of Russians.
Such video will only give Pakistan false sense of bravado.
 
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What Porkland people don’t and will never understand is the EW, CEW, ISR, NavAid, C&C, CMS and other major electronics and networks are western + Israeli + Indian. India does not use Russian electronics and software for most part. And where it does, india quickly tries to develop a local version or with western collaboration, a more advanced software.
For example, the very strategic CMS for Indian aircraft carriers are built in-house from Tata.
In any case, Pork folks are incapable of understanding such nuances of technology, as all this requires quality schooling and education, which 70-80% of Packis don’t have access to. This is very similar to how uneducated Packis were conned into believing that the Spike 2000 bombs β€œmissed” Balakot terror infra when we all know that Spike2000 has a system that makes it impossible to β€œmiss” a target if the photos of the target were correct. This is why most people don’t debate with Packis as, frankly, most Packis are dumb and even retarded due to heavy inbreeding. The saner ones have long quit the mental asylum called Pa ki Stan.
Remember one thing. You are trying to reason with those exact people who believe :-

1. That All wars (1947/48, 1965, 1971, 1999) were won by Pakistan even though they lost Every single war to India.
2. That JF-17 is more Advanced as compared to Rafale of Indian Airforce.
3. That PL-15 given to Pakistan has a range of 300 kms.
4. That JF-17 shot down a SU-30 MKI and MiG-21 (no problem, Memorial mai by mistake F-16 likhdia)
5. JF-17 is Indigenous Fighter of Pakistan.
6. AIM-120 AMRAAM was From Taiwan or can be fired by JF-17 10++ generation fighter.

And the list will go on and on and on.....

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Vishakapatnam is very impressive vessel but these are built tech transfer from Russia if Russian flag battle cruiser MOSKAVA is destroyed than these ships are no match of weapons which Moskava had yet it destroyed big navies are the easiest targets


How indian navy learn and do better and get few us of french vessels
Usually capital ships and especially flag ships are protected by an ring of escorts.
Like how Aircraft Carriers are surrounded by frigates, destroyers and other vessels. The escorts are supposed to take the impact in case all of the defensive systems fail to stop the enemy missile or torpedo.

Now under what circumstances the Moskava went down is unclear. Was it berthed in port or was it on combat patrol along with other ships of the fleet.

Remember the best brains of the NATO alliance must have applied their minds to get the Moskava to sink. I am sure it was not the work of the Ukrainians alone.

Also remember, were it an regular Russia - NATO conflict the Russians would have taken out an equally high value NATO ship. They also have good anti ship missiles.

Nobody is supporting Russia for its Ukraine invasion. But the West is no paragon of virtue.

Allowing Ukraine to come under NATO influence is a failure of Russian intelligence.
They should have prevented it.
 

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Vishakapatnam is very impressive vessel but these are built tech transfer from Russia if Russian flag battle cruiser MOSKAVA is destroyed than these ships are no match of weapons which Moskava had yet it destroyed big navies are the easiest targets


How indian navy learn and do better and get few us of french vessels
Totally agree with you brother Indian Navy is weak as hell Why don't you guys start by targeting the Indian Navy first. With the weapon systems pakistan has "Aaj raat ko hi Indian navy khatam ho jayega" Sara destroyer tumlog uda hi dooge after this moskova incident you guys know you have the capability and you have already caught all of our submarines with maritime patrol aircraft aur frigate to aise bhi tatti jahaj hote hai wo to aise hi khatam ho jayega. Aajo bhai aaj hi khatam kardo India ka Navy, kal airforce aur parso Army #HindBanegaPakistan :D aao lad lo
 

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Totally agree with you brother Indian Navy is weak as hell Why don't you guys start by targeting the Indian Navy first. With the weapon systems pakistan has "Aaj raat ko hi Indian navy khatam ho jayega" Sara destroyer tumlog uda hi dooge after this moskova incident you guys know you have the capability and you have already caught all of our submarines with maritime patrol aircraft aur frigate to aise bhi tatti jahaj hote hai wo to aise hi khatam ho jayega. Aajo bhai aaj hi khatam kardo India ka Navy, kal airforce aur parso Army #HindBanegaPakistan :D aao lad lo
Pakistan Navy does not have the "Balls/Guts" to even touch Indian Navy. Entire Napakistan is afraid of Indian Navy because they know how powerful IN is. Every Pakistani must be aware of Operation trident in which indian Navy lit up the port of Karachi.
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Please avoid insulting countries as such.
Every citizen is proud of his/her/their country and we should avoid hurting their feelings.
Sorry but I get very upset when Pakistanis try to claim silly type of things. They claim things like "we won all wars Against India". At times you need to show them the truth.
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@mods @ezsasa @Indx TechStyle @hit&run please shift this post of mine to the Pakistani Idiotic musings thread as it went Off topic. Thank you in advance:-

Remember one thing. You are trying to reason with those exact people who believe :-

1. That All wars (1947/48, 1965, 1971, 1999) were won by Pakistan even though they lost Every single war to India.
2. That JF-17 is more Advanced as compared to Rafale of Indian Airforce.
3. That PL-15 given to Pakistan has a range of 300 kms.
4. That JF-17 shot down a SU-30 MKI and MiG-21 (no problem, Memorial mai by mistake F-16 likhdia)
5. JF-17 is Indigenous Fighter of Pakistan.
6. AIM-120 AMRAAM was From Taiwan or can be fired by JF-17 10++ generation fighter.

And the list will go on and on and on.....
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@Marliii @RoaringTigerHiddenDragon don't throw rock at the wall , guy only want to promote his YouTube channel , say weird shit regularly on various thread , don't bother
Now this is a reply I actually agree with. Indian's should stop explaining these Idiots who believe 1 hindu soldier = 10 mudslim soldiers ( :p opps galti ho gaya ) I mean 1 mudslim soldier = 10 hindu soldiers and just give a standard response to every long explanation they make about our stuff being shit and their being the best by : "Aao lad lo"
 

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Vishakapatnam is very impressive vessel but these are built tech transfer from Russia if Russian flag battle cruiser MOSKAVA is destroyed than these ships are no match of weapons which Moskava had yet it destroyed big navies are the easiest targets


How indian navy learn and do better and get few us of french vessels
Vishakhapatnam is Indian design, Ukrainian engine, Israeli Air defence, rest all Indian components. How it is a tech transfer from Russia? There is nothing Russian on that ship besides Rbu6000 and Ak630.

Why would India buy US or French vessels? We have our own ship designing and shipbuilding capabilities. We are not like Pakistan.
 

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