Prahaar Short Range Tactical Missile System

[JBH22]

Re: Prithvi missiles to be replaced by more-capable Prahar: DRDO

In India it is Delhi along with acceptance of the master USA, in the context of present situation in India........

Sir hopefully we have not reached that low.

USA pressure is there but I guess the restraint shown previously was more because that Indian Army was not ready to take on the enemy due to degradation of combat capabilities like low arty pieces, lots of time to mobilise the force etc and also yes to some extent a political establishment that did not have the nerves to conduct war.

We can also say why lose our growth potential by waging because our neighbour is already on economic collapse path, there dream would be to drag us in the pit.

 

[natarajan]

Re: Prithvi missiles to be replaced by more-capable Prahar: DRDO

In India it is Delhi along with acceptance of the master USA, in the context of present situation in India........

thats more insult added to puppet mms

 

[Yusuf]

Re: Prithvi missiles to be replaced by more-capable Prahar: DRDO

Few questions:

1) Who decides to use tactical/ballistic missile army corp commander or he needs to call Delhi?

2) Possible targets to destroy with these weapons

Tactical ops under local command. Use of these weapons in hitting supply depots, bridges etc.

 

[sesha_maruthi27]

Re: Prithvi missiles to be replaced by more-capable Prahar: DRDO

Sir hopefully we have not reached that low.

USA pressure is there but I guess the restraint shown previously was more because that Indian Army was not ready to take on the enemy due to degradation of combat capabilities like low arty pieces, lots of time to mobilise the force etc and also yes to some extent a political establishment that did not have the nerves to conduct war.

We can also say why lose our growth potential by waging because our neighbour is already on economic collapse path, there dream would be to drag us in the pit.

But, if India had sent a strong message after the 26/11, there would not have been the incident of IA soldiers being mutilated and heads being taken away by the pak soldiers, the bomb blast in Dilsukhnagar in Hyderabad and also the recent attack on the IA convoy in J&K........

 

[sesha_maruthi27]

Re: Prithvi missiles to be replaced by more-capable Prahar: DRDO

Sir hopefully we have not reached that low.

USA pressure is there but I guess the restraint shown previously was more because that Indian Army was not ready to take on the enemy due to degradation of combat capabilities like low arty pieces, lots of time to mobilise the force etc and also yes to some extent a political establishment that did not have the nerves to conduct war.

We can also say why lose our growth potential by waging because our neighbour is already on economic collapse path, there dream would be to drag us in the pit.

I say this because, the Americans have propagated that they saved India from pakistans ambition of attacking India with nuclear missile, during the Kargil war and has also said that India got afraid by hearing that pak was ready to engage their nuclear missiles. If we sit quiet, we are being made as cowards by the world. The present situation also in the world is that India is afraid of pakistan and that is why we are not attacking them after all the terror attacks carried out by the terrorists who come from pakistan.

 

[Payeng]

Re: Prithvi missiles to be replaced by more-capable Prahar: DRDO

revisit the tests India conducted. Miniaturizing warheads was the aim of the tests. Indian TN bomb of 250kt yield weighs about 400kgs. Earlier Prithvi model was for a fission bomb of about 20kt but weighed 1Ton.

aaa yes, but they are high yield warheads definitely not for tactical purpose as in battlefield artillery like against a tank formation for the Prahaar cause.

 

[Decklander]

Re: Prithvi missiles to be replaced by more-capable Prahar: DRDO

Prahar has multiple warhead types including fragmentation type. This is an excellent decision to give this missile to IA Arty rather than SFC. This missile is a real battlefield tactical nuke missile with a range which will keep our own forces out of harms way if we deploys tactical nukes. The Hatf deployed by PA will create problems for its own forces and also lacks the payload reqd for tactical nukes. I had written about this missile in my earlier posts and also suggested that it shud be given to normal IA arty batteries as counter strike weapons against tactical missiles of PA & PLA and also to stop the movement of ARN & ARS of PA within their tracks well inside their territory before they can come anywhere close to deployment to support offensive defensive formations of PA which can be encircled and overwhelmed by our IBGs.

 

[Decklander]

Re: Prithvi missiles to be replaced by more-capable Prahar: DRDO

revisit the tests India conducted. Miniaturizing warheads was the aim of the tests. Indian TN bomb of 250kt yield weighs about 400kgs. Earlier Prithvi model was for a fission bomb of about 20kt but weighed 1Ton.

Very correct. We tested even 800ton nukes in 1998. These can very easily fit into Prahar kind of missile and IMHO it is a very good move to give Army commanders the decision to deploy tactical nukes in battlefield to hasten the outcome of a war in short swift intense manner. The SFC shud be left to decide on larger issues of anhilating a nation.

 

[Payeng]

Re: Prithvi missiles to be replaced by more-capable Prahar: DRDO

The article says about 4 missiles per vehicle, not a six configuration.......

DRDO should have tried something like this......

The missiles length and size is familiar to that of Prahaar while weight is more,

The Indian TEL cannot do a six with 12 wheels while this Soviet era beauty does it with 8 wheels

 

[sayareakd]

Re: Prithvi missiles to be replaced by more-capable Prahar: DRDO

The article says about 4 missiles per vehicle, not a six configuration.......

DRDO should have tried something like this......

The missiles length and size is familiar to that of Prahaar while weight is more,

The Indian TEL cannot do a six with 12 wheels while this Soviet era beauty does it with 8 wheels

Pay this is TATRA truck. They use the same for all heavy vehicles, now only they have started using Volvo

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[Yusuf]

Re: Prithvi missiles to be replaced by more-capable Prahar: DRDO

aaa yes, but they are high yield warheads definitely not for tactical purpose as in battlefield artillery like against a tank formation for the Prahaar cause.

The 150km Prithvis were for strategic strike against cities like Lahore coz we didn't have anything else. Before we made smaller nukes,single prithvi of 1ton payload was the delivery platform.

 

[Payeng]

Re: Prithvi missiles to be replaced by more-capable Prahar: DRDO

The 150km Prithvis were for strategic strike against cities like Lahore coz we didn't have anything else. Before we made smaller nukes,single prithvi of 1ton payload was the delivery platform.

But with the improvement of technology and capability it seems they are transferred for a Tactical role instead.

 

[Yusuf]

Re: Prithvi missiles to be replaced by more-capable Prahar: DRDO

But with the improvement of technology and capability it seems they are transferred for a Tactical role instead.

Yes and that's why they are now going to be replaced with a better tactical system

 

[Yusuf]

Re: Prithvi missiles to be replaced by more-capable Prahar: DRDO

Very correct. We tested even 800ton nukes in 1998. These can very easily fit into Prahar kind of missile and IMHO it is a very good move to give Army commanders the decision to deploy tactical nukes in battlefield to hasten the outcome of a war in short swift intense manner. The SFC shud be left to decide on larger issues of anhilating a nation.

I will not consider this as a serious post from you..

 

[pmaitra]

Re: Prithvi missiles to be replaced by more-capable Prahar: DRDO

The article says about 4 missiles per vehicle, not a six configuration.......

DRDO should have tried something like this......

The missiles length and size is familiar to that of Prahaar while weight is more,

The Indian TEL cannot do a six with 12 wheels while this Soviet era beauty does it with 8 wheels

I think this thing should be left to Tata, Ashok Leyland, and Ural India. Ural India being an Indian subsidiary of Russian UralAZ will have an advantage. We should consider roping in MAZ/MZKT or Almaz-Antey. DRDO can focus on missiles IMHO.

 

[sayareakd]

Re: Prithvi missiles to be replaced by more-capable Prahar: DRDO

well in cold war US used to say our missiles are light and Soviet missile are heavy. Russian commander said so what i dont have to carry the missile on my shoulder.........

 

[hitesh]

Re: Prithvi missiles to be replaced by more-capable Prahar: DRDO

I think this thing should be left to Tata, Ashok Leyland, and Ural India. Ural India being an Indian subsidiary of Russian UralAZ will have an advantage. We should consider roping in MAZ/MZKT or Almaz-Antey. DRDO can focus on missiles IMHO.

I say deception some thing like this

 

[Payeng]

Re: Prithvi missiles to be replaced by more-capable Prahar: DRDO

I say deception some thing like this

Cool but :
1. it is not a TEL but a Tractor Trailer configuration.
2. Minimal off road capabilities.

 

[sayareakd]

Re: Prithvi missiles to be replaced by more-capable Prahar: DRDO

I say deception some thing like this

this is the best design plus with standard cargo container, it will be difficult to detect it with spy satellite. Spy satellite with software can detect specific TEL from the given data.

 

[Yusuf]

Re: Prithvi missiles to be replaced by more-capable Prahar: DRDO

this is the best design plus with standard cargo container, it will be difficult to detect it with spy satellite. Spy satellite with software can detect specific TEL from the given data.

Wrong. When you use spy satellites, you look for garbage and roads that lead to nowhere to track missiles.