P-18/Next Generation Destroyer class (NGD)

[johnj]

Should be 32, but Navy RFI doesn't mention exact number. Usually its even number of 8-cell VLS so its either 16 or 32.

VL SRSAM comes with quad pack ? some 40vls ?

 

[Okabe Rintarou]

VL SRSAM comes with quad pack ? some 40vls ?

No idea but it does make sense to quad pack it for our larger universal VLS. But on smaller ships of corvette class, they might go with a dedicated VLS for VL-SRSAM because that is the only configuration that has been tested so far and NGMV production contract is already inked so they need the design for the VLS validated now and only dedicated VLS is available right now, not the universal VLS in which it could be quad-packed.

 

[cyclops]

What we also need are PDV type long-range anti-ballistic missiles for the Project-18 destroyers, further improving our A2/AD capabilities like the SM-3s on the Aegis destroyers.
If we ever need to, we would be properly able to blockade the Chinese in the Malacca Strait.


SM-3 or RIM-161 Standard Missile 3

 

[johnj]

What we also need are PDV type long-range anti-ballistic missiles for the Project-18 destroyers, further improving our A2/AD capabilities like the SM-3s on the Aegis destroyers.
If we ever need to, we would be properly able to blockade the Chinese in the Malacca Strait.


SM-3 or RIM-161 Standard Missile 3

Any one can compare both ?

 

[flanker99]

What we also need are PDV type long-range anti-ballistic missiles for the Project-18 destroyers, further improving our A2/AD capabilities like the SM-3s on the Aegis destroyers.
If we ever need to, we would be properly able to blockade the Chinese in the Malacca Strait.


SM-3 or RIM-161 Standard Missile 3

Ad1 Ad2 is currentl under development and may find itself in our future ships..anyway without numbers(of ships) these BMD will just be wasting space in our ships..land based ABM is a bigger priority

 

[Okabe Rintarou]

What we also need are PDV type long-range anti-ballistic missiles for the Project-18 destroyers, further improving our A2/AD capabilities like the SM-3s on the Aegis destroyers.
If we ever need to, we would be properly able to blockade the Chinese in the Malacca Strait.


SM-3 or RIM-161 Standard Missile 3

DRDO has publicly stated that AD-2 is meant to be comparable to SM-3 (IMHO the SM-3 Block 1A). While AD-1 will be comparable to Aster-30 (by which I assume they mean the Block2 variant of Aster 30).
These two will give us two-tier BMD capability on our Naval fleet. Something even the Brits won't have (as they are only talking about getting Aster-30 Block1NT for now.
.
In fact, currently, Barak-8 provides us with some limited endo-BMD capability.

 

[johnj]

DRDO has publicly stated that AD-2 is meant to be comparable to SM-3 (IMHO the SM-3 Block 1A). While AD-1 will be comparable to Aster-30 (by which I assume they mean the Block2 variant of Aster 30).
These two will give us two-tier BMD capability on our Naval fleet. Something even the Brits won't have (as they are only talking about getting Aster-30 Block1NT for now.
.
In fact, currently, Barak-8 provides us with some limited endo-BMD capability.

I think, DRDO need to give more importance to AD1, to develop it further to intercept hgv, high altitude hypersonic cruise missile & AShBM, hybrid maneuvering BMs.

 

[WolfPack86]

PROJECT 18:INDIA’S NEXT GENERATION DESTROYER
Project 18 class destroyers will be equipped with advanced systems such as electromagnetic railguns, laser-based close-in weapon systems, advanced AESA and PESA radars, and active and passive array sonars.Kakinda Shipyard in collaboration with Mazgaon docks and L&T will lay keel for the destroyers that will have a displacement of 9000 tonnes. Meanwhile, DRDO in collaboration with Bharat Electronics will be designing the next generation of radar systems. The already developed Air and Missile defence system (AMDS) is being further worked upon. The AESA and PESA are to have extended ranges and possible merger into one multi-band radar. The destroyer will also have an X-band optronic mast detector radar.

For the project, DRDO in collaboration with Bharat Electronics will be designing next generation of radar systems to be incorporated into the planned 18-class. The already developed AMDS will be worked on further. The AESA and PESA radars will see extended ranges, and possible merger into one multi-band radar. The destroyer will also have an X-band optronic mast detector radar.

Project 18-class destroyers will be able to carry enough space for a single utility helicopter. The destroyers will be equipped with advanced UCAVs and UAVs, a possible compact version to be deployed on the destroyers of the EMALS is being worked out.

Project-18 class destroyers will have following armaments
Ballistic missiles and hypersonic Bramhos-II:
The next generation of point missile defense capable of launching Brahmos II will be worked upon.

The Electromagnetic Railgun:
Electromagnetic gun replacing the famed Otobreda of Indian Navy, will be supported with laser based CIWS, in works in LASTEC of DRDO. The warship will be deployed with 300 kW of laser system, capable of shooting down the aerial threats. The planned CIWS will draw inspiration from the present Phalnax CIWS and have its own radar. Indian Army has also expressed interests in the project, for it wishes to mount laser based systems on its combat vehicles. Additionally, the warship will also be equipped with small 100 kW laser based weapon systems with faster charging rates and continuous rate of application.

Laser-based CIWS
It is being developed by DRDO’s Laser Science and Technology Centre, Delhi will employ 300 kW of laser system enough to take out any aerial threat. It will have its own radar. In addition, the warship will have a smaller 100kW laser too.

How will this mega ship be powered?
It will use Integrated Electric Propulsion (IEP). L& T and DRDO will further work on DRDO’s already launched programe GATET for marine propulsion. The planned gas turbine will deliver power up to 36 MW, and destroyer will have 2 of these to deliver a power of 72 MW, in conjugation with 2 diesel generators of 10 MW each and 2 electric propulsion motors of 20 MW. Tata Advanced Systems Ltd. (TASL) which has designed platform, bridge, and Combat Management Systems in the past will work on Diesel generators and motors.

Project-18 aims to launch the lead ship in 2028. DRDO has spared 1.5 billion dollars for the programme from its annual budget.

PROJECT 18:INDIA’S NEXT GENERATION DESTROYER

Project 18 class destroyers will be equipped with advanced systems such as electromagnetic railguns, laser-based close-in weapon systems, advanced AESA and PESA radars, and active and passive array…

defenceupdate.in

 

[Indx TechStyle]

PROJECT 18:INDIA’S NEXT GENERATION DESTROYER
Project 18 class destroyers will be equipped with advanced systems such as electromagnetic railguns, laser-based close-in weapon systems, advanced AESA and PESA radars, and active and passive array sonars.Kakinda Shipyard in collaboration with Mazgaon docks and L&T will lay keel for the destroyers that will have a displacement of 9000 tonnes. Meanwhile, DRDO in collaboration with Bharat Electronics will be designing the next generation of radar systems. The already developed Air and Missile defence system (AMDS) is being further worked upon. The AESA and PESA are to have extended ranges and possible merger into one multi-band radar. The destroyer will also have an X-band optronic mast detector radar.

For the project, DRDO in collaboration with Bharat Electronics will be designing next generation of radar systems to be incorporated into the planned 18-class. The already developed AMDS will be worked on further. The AESA and PESA radars will see extended ranges, and possible merger into one multi-band radar. The destroyer will also have an X-band optronic mast detector radar.

Project 18-class destroyers will be able to carry enough space for a single utility helicopter. The destroyers will be equipped with advanced UCAVs and UAVs, a possible compact version to be deployed on the destroyers of the EMALS is being worked out.

Project-18 class destroyers will have following armaments
Ballistic missiles and hypersonic Bramhos-II:
The next generation of point missile defense capable of launching Brahmos II will be worked upon.

The Electromagnetic Railgun:
Electromagnetic gun replacing the famed Otobreda of Indian Navy, will be supported with laser based CIWS, in works in LASTEC of DRDO. The warship will be deployed with 300 kW of laser system, capable of shooting down the aerial threats. The planned CIWS will draw inspiration from the present Phalnax CIWS and have its own radar. Indian Army has also expressed interests in the project, for it wishes to mount laser based systems on its combat vehicles. Additionally, the warship will also be equipped with small 100 kW laser based weapon systems with faster charging rates and continuous rate of application.

Laser-based CIWS
It is being developed by DRDO’s Laser Science and Technology Centre, Delhi will employ 300 kW of laser system enough to take out any aerial threat. It will have its own radar. In addition, the warship will have a smaller 100kW laser too.

How will this mega ship be powered?
It will use Integrated Electric Propulsion (IEP). L& T and DRDO will further work on DRDO’s already launched programe GATET for marine propulsion. The planned gas turbine will deliver power up to 36 MW, and destroyer will have 2 of these to deliver a power of 72 MW, in conjugation with 2 diesel generators of 10 MW each and 2 electric propulsion motors of 20 MW. Tata Advanced Systems Ltd. (TASL) which has designed platform, bridge, and Combat Management Systems in the past will work on Diesel generators and motors.

Project-18 aims to launch the lead ship in 2028. DRDO has spared 1.5 billion dollars for the programme from its annual budget.

PROJECT 18:INDIA’S NEXT GENERATION DESTROYER

Project 18 class destroyers will be equipped with advanced systems such as electromagnetic railguns, laser-based close-in weapon systems, advanced AESA and PESA radars, and active and passive array…

defenceupdate.in

Old fantasy article posted here for nth time.

 

[Okabe Rintarou]

PROJECT 18:INDIA’S NEXT GENERATION DESTROYER
Project 18 class destroyers will be equipped with advanced systems such as electromagnetic railguns, laser-based close-in weapon systems, advanced AESA and PESA radars, and active and passive array sonars.Kakinda Shipyard in collaboration with Mazgaon docks and L&T will lay keel for the destroyers that will have a displacement of 9000 tonnes. Meanwhile, DRDO in collaboration with Bharat Electronics will be designing the next generation of radar systems. The already developed Air and Missile defence system (AMDS) is being further worked upon. The AESA and PESA are to have extended ranges and possible merger into one multi-band radar. The destroyer will also have an X-band optronic mast detector radar.

For the project, DRDO in collaboration with Bharat Electronics will be designing next generation of radar systems to be incorporated into the planned 18-class. The already developed AMDS will be worked on further. The AESA and PESA radars will see extended ranges, and possible merger into one multi-band radar. The destroyer will also have an X-band optronic mast detector radar.

Project 18-class destroyers will be able to carry enough space for a single utility helicopter. The destroyers will be equipped with advanced UCAVs and UAVs, a possible compact version to be deployed on the destroyers of the EMALS is being worked out.

Project-18 class destroyers will have following armaments
Ballistic missiles and hypersonic Bramhos-II:
The next generation of point missile defense capable of launching Brahmos II will be worked upon.

The Electromagnetic Railgun:
Electromagnetic gun replacing the famed Otobreda of Indian Navy, will be supported with laser based CIWS, in works in LASTEC of DRDO. The warship will be deployed with 300 kW of laser system, capable of shooting down the aerial threats. The planned CIWS will draw inspiration from the present Phalnax CIWS and have its own radar. Indian Army has also expressed interests in the project, for it wishes to mount laser based systems on its combat vehicles. Additionally, the warship will also be equipped with small 100 kW laser based weapon systems with faster charging rates and continuous rate of application.

Laser-based CIWS
It is being developed by DRDO’s Laser Science and Technology Centre, Delhi will employ 300 kW of laser system enough to take out any aerial threat. It will have its own radar. In addition, the warship will have a smaller 100kW laser too.

How will this mega ship be powered?
It will use Integrated Electric Propulsion (IEP). L& T and DRDO will further work on DRDO’s already launched programe GATET for marine propulsion. The planned gas turbine will deliver power up to 36 MW, and destroyer will have 2 of these to deliver a power of 72 MW, in conjugation with 2 diesel generators of 10 MW each and 2 electric propulsion motors of 20 MW. Tata Advanced Systems Ltd. (TASL) which has designed platform, bridge, and Combat Management Systems in the past will work on Diesel generators and motors.

Project-18 aims to launch the lead ship in 2028. DRDO has spared 1.5 billion dollars for the programme from its annual budget.

PROJECT 18:INDIA’S NEXT GENERATION DESTROYER

Project 18 class destroyers will be equipped with advanced systems such as electromagnetic railguns, laser-based close-in weapon systems, advanced AESA and PESA radars, and active and passive array…

defenceupdate.in

You know, when they write articles of how Project-18 destroyers will have LASERS and railguns and $hit, instead of it making me feel happier, it makes me feel insecure. Because what it would mean if this was true is that Project-18 destroyers won't occur anytime in the next two decades.

 

[gslv markIII]

PROJECT 18:INDIA’S NEXT GENERATION DESTROYER
Project 18 class destroyers will be equipped with advanced systems such as electromagnetic railguns, laser-based close-in weapon systems, advanced AESA and PESA radars, and active and passive array sonars.Kakinda Shipyard in collaboration with Mazgaon docks and L&T will lay keel for the destroyers that will have a displacement of 9000 tonnes. Meanwhile, DRDO in collaboration with Bharat Electronics will be designing the next generation of radar systems. The already developed Air and Missile defence system (AMDS) is being further worked upon. The AESA and PESA are to have extended ranges and possible merger into one multi-band radar. The destroyer will also have an X-band optronic mast detector radar.

For the project, DRDO in collaboration with Bharat Electronics will be designing next generation of radar systems to be incorporated into the planned 18-class. The already developed AMDS will be worked on further. The AESA and PESA radars will see extended ranges, and possible merger into one multi-band radar. The destroyer will also have an X-band optronic mast detector radar.

Project 18-class destroyers will be able to carry enough space for a single utility helicopter. The destroyers will be equipped with advanced UCAVs and UAVs, a possible compact version to be deployed on the destroyers of the EMALS is being worked out.

Project-18 class destroyers will have following armaments
Ballistic missiles and hypersonic Bramhos-II:
The next generation of point missile defense capable of launching Brahmos II will be worked upon.

The Electromagnetic Railgun:
Electromagnetic gun replacing the famed Otobreda of Indian Navy, will be supported with laser based CIWS, in works in LASTEC of DRDO. The warship will be deployed with 300 kW of laser system, capable of shooting down the aerial threats. The planned CIWS will draw inspiration from the present Phalnax CIWS and have its own radar. Indian Army has also expressed interests in the project, for it wishes to mount laser based systems on its combat vehicles. Additionally, the warship will also be equipped with small 100 kW laser based weapon systems with faster charging rates and continuous rate of application.

Laser-based CIWS
It is being developed by DRDO’s Laser Science and Technology Centre, Delhi will employ 300 kW of laser system enough to take out any aerial threat. It will have its own radar. In addition, the warship will have a smaller 100kW laser too.

How will this mega ship be powered?
It will use Integrated Electric Propulsion (IEP). L& T and DRDO will further work on DRDO’s already launched programe GATET for marine propulsion. The planned gas turbine will deliver power up to 36 MW, and destroyer will have 2 of these to deliver a power of 72 MW, in conjugation with 2 diesel generators of 10 MW each and 2 electric propulsion motors of 20 MW. Tata Advanced Systems Ltd. (TASL) which has designed platform, bridge, and Combat Management Systems in the past will work on Diesel generators and motors.

Project-18 aims to launch the lead ship in 2028. DRDO has spared 1.5 billion dollars for the programme from its annual budget.

PROJECT 18:INDIA’S NEXT GENERATION DESTROYER

Project 18 class destroyers will be equipped with advanced systems such as electromagnetic railguns, laser-based close-in weapon systems, advanced AESA and PESA radars, and active and passive array…

defenceupdate.in

Who even let this brainlet in?

 

[cyclops]

DRDO has publicly stated that AD-2 is meant to be comparable to SM-3 (IMHO the SM-3 Block 1A). While AD-1 will be comparable to Aster-30 (by which I assume they mean the Block2 variant of Aster 30).
These two will give us two-tier BMD capability on our Naval fleet. Something even the Brits won't have (as they are only talking about getting Aster-30 Block1NT for now.
.
In fact, currently, Barak-8 provides us with some limited endo-BMD capability.

So I'm guessing the AD-1 & AD-2 should be UVLS compatible .

DRDO has publicly stated that AD-2 is meant to be comparable to SM-3

Link to this statement?

 

[Gessler]

Link to this statement?

 

[AlphaRaiderZ]

Nah. Its corvette with 8 BrahMos and 32 VL-SRSAM and low RCS, IR and accoustic signatures. Construction yet to start at CSL.

Okay so what's the difference b/w NGC and NGMV ? Can you explain . I just started playing a video game on ships and got myself involved into study of ships .
I'm a novice , and i would be grateful if you help me out

 

[AlphaRaiderZ]

Does anyone know . what is the "Next Generation Missile Vessel" . Is it an INS Dhruv successor ?

I think the successor of kora class of missile vessels

 

[flanker99]

Okay so what's the difference b/w NGC and NGMV ? Can you explain . I just started playing a video game on ships and got myself involved into study of ships .
I'm a novice , and i would be grateful if you help me out

NGMV- displacement will be around 2500ton so less range,endurence etc....
NGC will basically be small frigates with over 3k ton displacement

 

[AlphaRaiderZ]

VL SRSAM comes with quad pack ? some 40vls ?

Who's working on quadpacked SAM capabilities, DRDO or L&T . Cause last time I heard , they posted a pic with quad packed launcher albeit in slant launcher configuration rather than VLS . Could it be modified for UVLS capabilities like the mk41

 

[AlphaRaiderZ]

NGMV- displacement will be around 2500ton so less range,endurence etc....
NGC will basically be small frigates with over 3k ton displacement

Any distinct difference in arsenal cause it mostly has been 8 VLS brahmos and 32 Barak 8 . Maybe increase upto 12 brahmos and 40 XRSAM

 

[flanker99]

Any distinct difference in arsenal cause it mostly has been 8 VLS brahmos and 32 Barak 8 . Maybe increase upto 12 brahmos and 40 XRSAM

brahmos comes in vls of 8 ...so 8....for barak 8 u need mfstar which is a very costly system smaller ships will likely stick with vlsram and its future iterations

 

[AlphaRaiderZ]

brahmos comes in vls of 8 ...so 8....for barak 8 u need mfstar which is a very costly system smaller ships will likely stick with vlsram and its future iterations

I see . what about the 2ײ slant launchers seen in CSL design on the side seen in the alpha defence video ? Also can Nirbhay or subsonic cruise missiles be mounted in this system . Since it should be a dedicated missile Corvette .