Next Generation Frigates (NGF)

[Haldilal]

The NGF Mentioned in TPCR and in MDL correspondence alongside NGD/P18. And 12 are planned from a after the Project 17 A class frigates.

 

[Haldilal]

Is LRDE making a naval L-band surveillance radar or are we going to depend on RAN-40L for our NGD and NGF?

Ya'll Nibbiars probably being developed.

 

[Haldilal]

I feel like MF-STAR might be continued for Frigates whereas Destroyers (P-18 onwards) would get LRMFR (the one on INS Anvesh). I read somewhere that LRMFR is similar in size to SPY-6 the Americans want on their Arleigh Burke replacement. Don't know if its also a GaN AESA.

Ya'll Nibbiars both for the NGF and the NGD the LRMFR would be use considering the increase in the threats and the demands.

 

[Okabe Rintarou]

Possible, but that is speculation at best. Though a very likely one.

As of frigates, much will depend on how the surface warfare doctrine develops like I said previously. If NGF is to NGD what 17A is to 15B (basically a smaller ship with almost same capabilities), then same LRMFR can be used for NGF as well.

These TRM arrays are by nature extremely scalable so size/power is not a concern. Like the SPY-1 family, where there are versions for smallest to biggest class of vessel:

Yeah, it would make sense for a scaled down LRMFR to be the radar for NGF. Otherwise they would have simply called it P-17B, not NGF.
But if they go for mini-LRMFR in NGF, would they include AD-2 in their loadout? DRDO said AD-2 is SM-3 equivalent.
Another thing, BAE was considering a 5-panel radar for BMD (5th panel facing up). Doesn't look like LRMFR has that.
One approach could be to have heavier 5.5-6 meter "dia" LRMFR on the NGD, but mounted low, like in Arleigh Burke class. And then on NGF, a smaller 3 meter LRMFR mounted on a mast like P-17 for edge against sea-skimming targets.

 

[Gessler]

Yeah, it would make sense for a scaled down LRMFR to be the radar for NGF. Otherwise they would have simply called it P-17B, not NGF.
But if they go for mini-LRMFR in NGF, would they include AD-2 in their loadout? DRDO said AD-2 is SM-3 equivalent.
Another thing, BAE was considering a 5-panel radar for BMD (5th panel facing up). Doesn't look like LRMFR has that.
One approach could be to have heavier 5.5-6 meter "dia" LRMFR on the NGD, but mounted low, like in Arleigh Burke class. And then on NGF, a smaller 3 meter LRMFR mounted on a mast like P-17 for edge against sea-skimming targets.

Again that would depend on doctrine. If NGD is going to be AAW-focused while NGF is more multipurpose (like Type 45 DDG & Type 26 FFG) then it would make sense to put AD-2 only on NGD.

The NGF Mentioned in TPCR and in MDL correspondence alongside NGD/P18. And 12 are planned from a after the Project 17 A class frigates.

12 NGF?

Where it says that? TPCR said 05-10 fir NGF & NGD combined. Meaning probably 6-7 NGF and 3-4 NGD.

Please give link.

 

[Haldilal]

Again that would depend on doctrine. If NGD is going to be AAW-focused while NGF is more multipurpose (like Type 45 DDG & Type 26 FFG) then it would make sense to put AD-2 only on NGD.



12 NGF?

Where it says that? TPCR said 05-10 fir NGF & NGD combined. Meaning probably 6-7 NGF and 3-4 NGD.

Please give link.

Ya'll Nibbiars 7?. Then I might be mistaken. But 3 to 4 for the the NGD I don't think.

 

[Haldilal]

Ya'll I think it's was 7 plus 7 for the NGF and the 6 plus 6 for the NGD. The bleh nibba said this about the NGD. The NGF I can't say for sure.

 

[Gessler]

Ya'll Nibbiars 7?. Then I might be mistaken.

 

[Gessler]

Ya'll I think it's was 7 plus 7 for the NGF and the 6 plus 6 for the NGD. The bleh nibba said this about the NGD. The NGF I can't say for sure.

Sab bakwas.

TPCR tak speculate karrahi hai ki 5-10 range mein hoga. That means they not yet decided numbers.

 

[Haldilal]

Sab bakwas.

TPCR tak speculate karrahi hai ki 5-10 range mein hoga. That means they not yet decided numbers.

Ya'll Nibbiars then what bleh wrong about the NGD?.